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Old 02-16-2014, 04:57 PM
Nconroe Nconroe is offline
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Default Dolphins Harrassment Study

The official study came out this week
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...miami-dolphins

My quick review is three Dolphin Players and one coach committed harrassment toward 2 players and one assistant coach.

Team and NFL actions sure to follow.

My thought, times are changing/have changed and one needs to adapt or suffer consequences.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:48 PM
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Jock confines tend to be bastions of physical humor and overt masculinity. Making fun of the weak and effeminate is a staple of their conversations and a subtle warning to anyone who might try to wimp out, homosexual or not. In a brutal sport like football, teammates need to know the guys they line up next to are not going to crack in stressful situations.

None of that is to excuse hazing or singling out weaklings for punishment but it's almost like asking players to play without helmets if they can't tease and heckle teammates, sometimes with profane and ribald humor. The problem with basing political correctness according to what the offended finds offensive is that the offended seem always eager to move the goalposts to the point of absurdity.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:43 PM
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The problem with basing political correctness according to what the offended finds offensive...
There are plenty more people than Martin who are offended.

And referring to it as political correctness just makes you look more ridiculous than usual.
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:19 AM
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There are plenty more people than Martin who are offended.

And referring to it as political correctness just makes you look more ridiculous than usual.
Of course, it's political correctness. What do you think the whole "Redskins" thing is about? What do you think all this media lovefest over Michael Sam is about? What do you think the NFL dresses up all in pink for an entire friggin month is about? It's kissing ass of every minority group out there so that none of them feels offended so they don't picket outside stadiums, take the NFL to court, vote against their publicly-funded stadiums or reduce the NFL's earning power in any way.

What's even more ridiculous is that the NFL is probably 70% African-American and yet they still have to cloak themselves in all this PC garbage.

Words in a locker room. That's all the Dolphins thing is about. I went to high school in Houston in a mixed-race environment in the early 1970s and there were whites (even coaches) who teased the blacks and blacks who teased the whites and if anyone was offended, we settled it out back behind the gym like men. But most of the time the teasing just allowed both of us to laugh with each other and bond as teammates.

We are a society now that is wound way too tight and way too eager to act offended at anything because there is political power in claiming victimhood. We've institutionalized political preference based on race, gender and sexual orientation which accomplishes just the opposite of the alleged goals of ending racism and sexism. They've now legally sanctioned it.

I'll end here since this is a football board.
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:00 PM
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No surprise, you have it completely wrong. The concept of political correctness is a fantasy dreamed up by paleolithic skidmarks like you who seek to claim victimhood from a society increasingly impatient with their various idiocies. Of course you would belittle native groups who find caricatures demeaning. Of course you would pretend that media attention surrounding a gay player is because of people like me and not precisely because of people like you. Of course it makes sense to you that a guy like Matin address his issues with violence. In your bizarre sub-reality societal problems would disappear if only we'd all just ignore them.

You have one thing right, though - parading ones self around as a victim is unbecoming. It's pathetic, actually.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:47 PM
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I'm no victim other than to that which is common to all of us and watching a government that encroaches seemingly daily on our freedoms and protections.

But of course it makes sense to protest a tacky nickname of an NFL team to distract the masses from the failings of the economic illiterate in the White House who keeps minority unemployment above 15% with his job-killing mandates. If the Redskins change their names, the Native American community sees no tangible benefit but if more sensible economic policies were in place, thousands of Native Americans might have a job or get a better-paying job, improving countless lives. So, by all means, protest what's truly important like what a football team decides to call itself.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:39 AM
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Jock confines tend to be bastions of physical humor and overt masculinity. Making fun of the weak and effeminate is a staple of their conversations and a subtle warning to anyone who might try to wimp out, homosexual or not. In a brutal sport like football, teammates need to know the guys they line up next to are not going to crack in stressful situations.

None of that is to excuse hazing or singling out weaklings for punishment but it's almost like asking players to play without helmets if they can't tease and heckle teammates, sometimes with profane and ribald humor. The problem with basing political correctness according to what the offended finds offensive is that the offended seem always eager to move the goalposts to the point of absurdity.
True dat.
National sports media types like Tony Kornheiser & Jim Rome who never played football even in HS and majored in English Lit in college are now imposing their cultural values on the NFL. I see the possibility of an NFL with non-contact rules, perhaps total touch-football only in our future and a code-of-conduct including rules prohibiting unacceptable language.
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