2009 needs

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

I see it something like this, depending on injuries and retirements: LB, OL, CB/S, QB (to coach up for when Sage is gone), & finally RB.

No DE? Which OL position will you be looking at in the 2nd? OT/OG/OC?

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No DE? Which OL position will you be looking at in the 2nd? OT/OG/OC?

Post the Rosevelt signing, I would say it is simply the best player available, no matter what position, excluding QB. QB in the first nowadays seems to bring bad luck, or is it just my own experience talking here?

[KJ3]

just you NBT, there have been some good qb's in the first recently. carson palmer, eli manning, tim couch was pretty awesome....

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No DE? Which OL position will you be looking at in the 2nd? OT/OG/OC?

No DE because I think Colvin will be around for a couple of years. OL would be OT because you can always fit them in at OG if need be. OR OC as a backup to Meyers. I think we continue to tinker with RB in latter rounds just to keep the pot boiling.

I think this scouting staff is such that one or two diamonds in the dust will keep turning up in latter rounds too.

[Nconroe]

I agree BPA seems reasonable since we seem to have a reasonable mix of experience and developing youth at each position for now. See what happens and who's available between now and then. Seems a stud FS and most positions could perhaps find that diamond in the haystack. I do think this regime of scouts, GM, coaches are being consistently successful in draft so far.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by NBT

I think we continue to tinker with RB in latter rounds just to keep the pot boiling.

do you think if smithiak had any idea that mendenhall would fall they would've had a plan to grab him instead? or were they well aware of the OT run about to happen and there was no chance in hell they were taking a RB 1st round?

i don't believe for one second they expected him there, or that none of them were questioning their plan when they realized he had fallen.

my point is that this team, being pretty even as far as talent across positions, anything is possible in the 1st regardless of denver's draft history.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by KJ3

do you think if smithiak had any idea that mendenhall would fall they would've had a plan to grab him instead? .

Actually, I think you may have that backwards. If Brown hadn't been there they might have taken Mendenhall. They were, IMO, determined to get a quality LT and I think the only two other guys that they would have been interested in were gone. They took a fairly big gamble/risk trading back to get the 2 extra picks, but it worked.

[NBT]

In a couple of years, when we see how Brown, Slaton, and Barber have worked out, will we be able to tell for sure. But I will predict now that all 3 will be doing well.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by edo783

Actually, I think you may have that backwards. If Brown hadn't been there they might have taken Mendenhall. They were, IMO, determined to get a quality LT and I think the only two other guys that they would have been interested in were gone. They took a fairly big gamble/risk trading back to get the 2 extra picks, but it worked.

you're saying you think they would've taken mendenhall if they didn't believe brown was attainable? they had a shot at both so i'm not totally sure what you mean...

[edo783]

Originally Posted by KJ3

they had a shot at both so i'm not totally sure what you mean...

That's actually what I mean. As long as both were available they would select Brown, but if Brown was already off the board, then they might have taken Mendenhall. I'm still not sure they would have actually done it as Kubes & Gibbs don't seem to like to take 1st round RBs.

[KJ3]

ah, i see now.

i think if the right guy was in the 1st, available, and we were up kubiak wouldn't hesistate. the denver myth thing has kind of been busted anyway...

[NBT]

Originally Posted by NBT

No DE because I think Colvin will be around for a couple of years. OL would be OT because you can always fit them in at OG if need be. OR OC as a backup to Meyers. I think we continue to tinker with RB in latter rounds just to keep the pot boiling.

I think this scouting staff is such that one or two diamonds in the dust will keep turning up in latter rounds too.

Well, I really blew it on Colvin. He didn't even get out of TC. So now we are having trouble with our pass rush, as I feared.

[NBT]

Well we are now past Miami, and the win makes the rest of the season look a little more promising, but this team seems to take one step forward and 1 & 1/2 back every game. The Dline is starting to play Bullman more at DE, and the Dline is also doing more stunts. Demps and harrison are doing OK at safety, but the CB situation is still pretty bad. If the Draft were now, I would make DE, LB, and CB my main objective.

[mussop]

This is a list of players that i currently like.


DE Clay Mathews DE USC #47 4th or 5th round

Javon Ringer, Michigan State - 5-9, 205, (RB) 3rd or 4th

Terrence ’Mount’ Cody DT Alabama junior (#62, 6-4, 365), 2nd round

Ryan Stanchek, West Virginia - 6-4, 300, SR (LT) later rounds

Greg Isdaner, West Virginia - 6-4, 322, JR ...(G) Later rounds

George Selvie DE 6-4, 255 South Florida middle first

Michael Johnson DE 6-6, 250 Georgia Tech middle first

Rey Maualaga LB 6-2, 250 USC between pick 10 and 15 first

Alex Mack OC 6-4, 315 California late first

Duke Robinson OG 6-5, 335 Oklahoma top 15 pick

Nic Harris SS 6-2, 230 Oklahoma 2nd round

Pat White QB 6-1, 192 West Virginia later rounds

Marlon Lucky, RB 5-11, 210, Nebraska late round

Vontae Davis, CB 6-0, 200, Illinois top 10 pick

Chase Coffman (TE) Missouri middle first

Keep youre eye on this guy. Donald Brown Running back Connecticut Huskies Height: 5-10 Weight: 208 3rd or 4th round


Xavier Fulton, Illinois
Height: 6-6. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
5/24/08: For a guy coming off a season-ending knee injury, Xavier Fulton played pretty well in 2007. A former defensive lineman, Fulton's athleticism will make him a good fit in a zone-blocking scheme. 3rd round

Outside linebacker Aaron Curry (Wake Forest) late first

Brian Orakpo DE (Texas) This guy is moving up fast. At this pace he will be a top ten pick.

[KJ3]

right now i think i might pull the trigger on robinson or mack in the first, maybe a OLB 2nd, DE 3rd, RB 4th.

complete the o'line, for once.

[NBT]

I dunno, I would like to get the permanent solution to that RDE. I would be tempted to use number one for that. However, perceptions change over time, that is if Bullman continues to do well. Other than that I still see CB as a perrenial need.