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Old 04-27-2023, 12:12 AM
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Default Official 2023 NFL Draft - Round 1-7 Thread (+UDFAs)

This is a critical draft for the Texans. Hopefully the team finds the needed players to supercharge the DeMeco Ryans era. Will the evening start with a new quarterback? Might the Texans instead use an early pick on another Mario Williams or Jadaveon Clowney? Will Hannah McNair defeat Nick Caserio in hand-to-hand combat in the team's war room and assume possession of the darksaber? Oh um sorry, not sure how my Texans fan fiction made it into this post.

Anyhoo... here's how the team starts the draft pick-wise:

Round 1感ick 2 (2)
Round 1感ick 12 (12) CLE>HOU
Round 2感ick 2 (33)
Round 3感ick 2 (65)
Round 3感ick 10 (73) CLE>HOU
Round 4感ick 2 (104)
Round 5感ick 26 (161) DAL>HOU
Round 6感ick 11 (188) NO>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 6感ick 26 (203) NYG>HOU
Round 7感ick 13 (230) NYJ>TB>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY

It's NFL Draft Day-slash-Weekend. Enjoy moderately. I mean, enjoy in moderation.
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Old 04-27-2023, 07:25 PM
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The Texans selected C.J. Stroud, QB from Ohio State, with the #2 overall pick.
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Old 04-27-2023, 07:38 PM
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Holy shit. Big trade up to #3 overall to get DE Will Anderson, Jr.

Gets #3, #105 (4th round) from the Cardinals
Gives up #12, #33, 2024 first and 2024 third.

So...
QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
Round 3感ick 2 (65)
Round 3感ick 10 (73) CLE>HOU
Round 4感ick 2 (104)
Round 4-Pick 3 (105) ARI>HOU
Round 5感ick 26 (161) DAL>HOU
Round 6感ick 11 (188) NO>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 6感ick 26 (203) NYG>HOU
Round 7感ick 13 (230) NYJ>TB>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:12 PM
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Texans really needed a center. Traded up to get one.

C Juice Scruggs, Penn St.

Gave up 65, 188 (6th), 230 (7th) to move up to 62.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU

Round 3感ick 10 (73) CLE>HOU
Round 4感ick 2 (104)
Round 4-Pick 3 (105) ARI>HOU
Round 5感ick 26 (161) DAL>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 6感ick 26 (203) NYG>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:40 PM
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ANOTHER trade up, this time to keep Coogs' WR Nathaniel "Tank" Dell at home.

Texans send 73 and 161 to the Rams for 69 and 191.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU

Round 4感ick 2 (104)
Round 4-Pick 3 (105) ARI>HOU
Round 6感ick 14 (191) LAR>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 6感ick 26 (203) NYG>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:48 PM
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Caserio proving he is willing to pay the price to move up for the players that he, Ryans, and the team wants. Damn the trade charts... go get your guys. Power moves. I'm not going to cry over the extra picks... Can't have a roster with 30 rookies on it next year.

The new OL is solidifying. The combo of a rookie C to go with a rookie QB is a tad concerning though.

LT: Laremy Tunsil
LG: Kenyon Green
C: Juice Scruggs
RG: Shaq Mason
RT: Tytus Howard
TE: Dalton Schultz

And the WR room is getting better.

Nico Collins
Robert Woods
John Metchie
Tank Dell

Stroud to Collins will be sweet assuming Collins can stay healthy for a full season. Have to like the potential now for how Dell becomes the peanut butter to Nico's chocolate.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:51 PM
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I agree, I'm OK with using significant draft capital to get the guys you want if you can. My concern is that I heard that the team wanted to go with Anderson at 2 and sort the QB situation out as it shook out, and they got overruled by ownership. Perhaps someone who knows will confirm or correct what I heard, but if there's any truth to that, that's not good.

On the other hand, if Demeco really wanted Stroud and Anderson (I'm pretty sure he really wanted Anderson, obviously), then fine. I'm not all that worked up by the steep cost.
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Old 04-29-2023, 12:52 AM
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Since Easterby was dismissed, it seems as if it has been far more difficult to get info and insight to what is happening in the room where it happens on Kirby. These media narratives are increasingly just that... stories. The media craves a narrative, and the Texans aren't giving them out anymore. There's dead air and empty columns still to fill though, so we get whoknowswhat to fill that space.

Cal has said today even that he stepped back in the draft process versus his level of involvement in hiring the head coach.
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There has been much speculated about the McNair family’s involvement with the draft. I asked Cal McNair about it. His answer lines up with what I’d heard from multiple people in the weeks leading up to the draft.
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"I was a little less involved than in the coaching search because that's the (specialty) of these guys," McNair said. "It wasn't last month that they woke up and started looking at Will Anderson or C.J. They'd been watching them for years, literally years. So, they really know them so well. ... There's so much that goes into it that you've got to let these guys do their job, and they did it yesterday."
https://twitter.com/BKubena/status/1...302592/photo/1

So one can be skeptical that Cal is being honest here, but I tend to believe him and not all the other media cultivated narratives. Cal's dad had the same philosphy, for better or worse. Why wouldn't Cal? Of course Cal may have an opinion on what player he likes and how to get it done - we all have an opinion - but ultimately I don't think he levied any sort of veto power or overruling here.

What little we've seen in the war room and of how this draft has so far played out seems to me that Caserio and Ryans are aligned and McNair is happy to see what they can do together. The picks this weekend are just the results... the real narrative consists of the firing of Easterby, the trading of Watson, and the hiring of Ryans.

Side note on Brooks, who I think has done a really nice job since he began covering this beat... he mentioned he was 12 during the 2006 draft (Mario-VY-Bush)... and man it made me feel old.

But that analogy - that drafting Stroud and Anderson might have been like getting both Mario and Vince, just really helps to encapsulate how unique Thursday was not just for the Texans but for the league. The only other times the same team has had two of the first three picks was '00 (Arrington/Samuels) and '92 (Emtman/Coryatt). The Texans did this with the two most important positions on the field, one on each side of the ball in the passer and the pass rusher. Have to admire the boldness if nothing else.
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Old 04-29-2023, 09:00 AM
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I listened to Lance Zierlein yesterday. He felt like Anderson was their pick at #2 but the decision was made, probably fairly late in the process, that they couldnt come away without a QB so they paid the price to get both.

The Falcons were also trying to move up to get Anderson at #3, so that pushed the price up. If the Texans had taken Anderson at #2, theyd have been bidding against the Titans for #3 because Tennessee would have been trying to get Stroud. He said the Colts were locked in on Richardson.

As for the actual picks, he thinks Stroud was clearly the best QB available after Young and a great fit for the offense a highly accurate, rhythm passer who can hit receivers in stride. Anderson brings great leadership in addition to the on-the-field ability and should help set the tone that DeMeco wants in the locker room.

It was a high price but I agree that they got two premium players at premium positions and hopefully they wont be in as good of a position to do that again anytime soon. If they saw a steep drop off in talent on the board that would also weigh in favor of making the move.
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:15 AM
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Texans trade out of their first two picks in the fourth round just before the selections begin on Day 3.

Texans send 104 (4th) & 203 (6th) to the Raiders for 109 (4th) and 174 (5th)

Texans send 105 (4th) to the Eagles for a 2024 Third Rounder

So here's where they stand today:

Round 4感ick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
Round 5-Pick 39 (174) COMPENSATORY LVR>HOU
Round 6感ick 14 (191) LAR>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:32 AM
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Texans again stay in state with their fourth rounder to select DE Dylan Horton from TCU.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU

Round 5-Pick 39 (174) COMPENSATORY LVR>HOU
Round 6感ick 14 (191) LAR>HOU
Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7感ick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-29-2023, 03:08 PM
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Guess what, the Texans traded up again, and this is a fun one. They selected Alabama LB Henry To'oTo'o.

The team sent 174 and 259 to the Rams for 167. That means no Mr. Irrelevant.

They've also traded 191 to the Eagles for 230 and 248.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
LB Henry To'oTo'o - Round 5-Pick 32 (167) COMPENSATORY LAR>HOU

Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7感ick 13 (230) NYJ>TAM>HOU>PHI>HOU
Round 7感ick 31 (248) PHI>HOU
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Old 04-29-2023, 03:42 PM
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The Texans stayed at 201 an picked up another center, Jarrett Patterson from Notre Dame. PFF says he hasn't allowed a sack in his collegiate career, which is I guess is pretty good.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
LB Henry To'oTo'o - Round 5-Pick 32 (167) COMPENSATORY LAR>HOU
C Jarrett Patterson - Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU

Round 7感ick 13 (230) NYJ>TAM>HOU>PHI>HOU
Round 7感ick 31 (248) PHI>HOU
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Old 04-29-2023, 03:54 PM
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Welp, a trade. Is this the 8th one this draft?

Texans move up to 205 to pick WR Xavier Hutchinson from Iowa State. Give up pick 230 and a 2024 6th rounder to Buffalo to make the trade.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
LB Henry To'oTo'o - Round 5-Pick 32 (167) COMPENSATORY LAR>HOU
C Jarrett Patterson - Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
WR Xavier Hutchinson - Round 6感ick 28 (205) BUF>HOU
Round 7感ick 31 (248) PHI>HOU
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Old 04-29-2023, 06:03 PM
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The last pick has been made. Safety Brandon Hill out of Pitt, 5'10" 193 ran a 4.43 at the Combine. Lance had a 5th round projection on him. Pretty good hitter with speed sounds like a good special teams coverage candidate.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1感ick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1感ick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2感ick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3感ick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
LB Henry To'oTo'o - Round 5-Pick 32 (167) COMPENSATORY LAR>HOU
C Jarrett Patterson - Round 6感ick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
WR Xavier Hutchinson - Round 6感ick 28 (205) BUF>HOU
S Brandon Hill - Round 7感ick 31 (248) PHI>HOU
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Old 04-29-2023, 06:08 PM
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Undrafted FAs, Caserio says to expect 11-12 when all is done here.

OL Tyler Beach, Wisconsin
DL Dylan Deatherage, Western Michigan
P Joe Doyle, Memphis
DE Ali Gaye, LSU
DB Darius Joiner, Duke
WR Jesse Matthews, San Diego State
RB Xazien Valladay, Arizona State
WR Jared Wayne, Pitt
OL Kilian Zierer, Auburn

Valladay's agent is saying that he is getting $175k guaranteed ($30k bonus plus $145k salary), which is not a record but seems fairly significant for a UDFA. Reportedly Deatherage and Gaye are each getting a $10k sign bonus with a $70k salary guarantee.

UPDATE: Wayne is getting an even better payout than Valladay at $210k guaranteed ($10k bonus, $200k salary).
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Old 04-29-2023, 08:36 PM
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Valladay is a stud!!
Im sure hell make the team.

Im happy overall with the draft, looking forward to next season.
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I agree, I'm OK with using significant draft capital to get the guys you want if you can. My concern is that I heard that the team wanted to go with Anderson at 2 and sort the QB situation out as it shook out, and they got overruled by ownership. Perhaps someone who knows will confirm or correct what I heard, but if there's any truth to that, that's not good.

On the other hand, if Demeco really wanted Stroud and Anderson (I'm pretty sure he really wanted Anderson, obviously), then fine. I'm not all that worked up by the steep cost.
Well you know Chuck it's kinda like when you bought that Lamborghini just to park in front of your house to impress all of your snotty-nosed River Oaks neighbors.
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