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Dillard was going to be the pick - they never expected him to be close to 23. But there are some in the Org that think Howard will eventually be better.
Howard wouldn't have lasted until their picks in the 2nd. Taylor off the board (for a 1st anyway) due to knee issues |
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The Texans could still trade up from their second round pick.
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According to AL.com, Howard was a high school quarterback who then switched to tight end when arriving at Alabama State. Then he outgrew that position to become an offensive tackle - 6-5, 322lbs! That tells me two things - he must have a lot of quickness to have QB and TE skills under that body and secondly, he'll be dead by the time he's 25 if he keeps adding weight that fast. Better hire someone to keep him away from the barbecue joints, fried chicken shacks and mexican food places or he's going to become Un Madre Grande.
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So are we going to start the the fire the GM thread?
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After a little research, sounds like some teams believe Taylor has a miniscus tear, and possibly back issues. Honestly I never researched him much because I figured he’d be long gone by the time we pick, most mocks had Taylor going in the 7-15 range. Hard to know what’s true and what’s bs.
That being said, I still would have preferred Ford, Little, or Risner over Howard. Hopefully he turns into a HOF. Props to bikerack for calling it. The Raiders are absolutely killing it, all great picks. |
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Round 1 results:
1 Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray QB Oklahoma 2 San Francisco 49ers Nick Bosa DE Ohio State 3 New York Jets Quinnen Williams DT Alabama 4 Oakland Raiders Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson 5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Devin White LB LSU 6 New York Giants Daniel Jones QB Duke 7 Jacksonville Jaguars Josh Allen DE/LBKentucky 8 Detroit Lions T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa 9 Buffalo Bills Ed Oliver DT Houston 10 Pittsburgh Steelers Devin Bush LB Michigan 11 Cincinnati Bengals Jonah Williams OT Alabama 12 Green Bay Packers Rashan Gary DE Michigan 13 Miami Dolphins Christian Wilkins DT Clemson 14 Atlanta Falcons Chris Lindstrom OG Boston College 15 Washington Redskins Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State 16 Carolina Panthers Brian Burns DE Florida State 17 New York Giants Dexter Lawrence DT Clemson 18 Minnesota Vikings Garrett Bradbury C N.C. State 19 Tennessee Titans Jeffery Simmons DT Mississippi State 20 Denver Broncos Noah Fant TE Iowa 21 Green Bay Packers Darnell Savage Jr S Maryland 22 Philadelphia Eagles Andre Dillard OT Washington State 23 Houston Texans Tytus Howard OT Alabama State 24 Oakland Raiders Josh Jacobs RB Alabama 25 Baltimore Ravens Marquise Brown WR Oklahoma 26 Indianapolis Colts Montez Sweat DE Mississippi State 27 Oakland Raiders Johnathan Abram S Mississippi State 28 Los Angeles Chargers Jerry Tillery DT Notre Dame 29 Seattle Seahawks L.J. Collier DE TCU 30 New York Giants Deandre Baker CB Georgia 31 Atlanta Falcons Kaleb McGary OT Washington 32 New England Patriots N'Keal Harry WR Arizona State Eh, we didn't know if Duane Brown was going to be any good way back when, so I'm gonna give Howard a chance.... But man, drafting bustos in the 1st round will get you canned fast... Chuck: I have some questions for you re: your ex-patness. Nothing too probing, I hope. I am toying with the idea of a move to Puerto Rico - wondering if you wouldn't mind answering a few questions via PM... |
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Arky, hit me up, dude, of course.
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Another thing is that Jawaan Taylor and Cody Ford are both right tackles. Lots of folks will question this pick just like the NY Giants drafting a second-round rated QB with the 6th overall pick in the Draft will be severely second guessed. |
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Apparently there was no viable trade up or down scenario. Up was going to cost too much...and down was going to be too far down for their comfort. The Philly-Balt trade had been agreed upon for a while if Dillard and Brown were still there.
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I have no problem with a guy going "too early". Too early is based on meaningless mock drafts and amateur scouts. You draft the guy you want when you can.
I guarantee that a year from now there will be guys picked in the 100s that are more valuable than half of the first round picks. After all, Philip Lindsay was undrafted just last year. If Denver had drafted him in the 3rd a year ago it would have been a huge reach based on mock drafts but would be a wonderful 3rd round pick with a year of hindsight. A GM has to get his guys regardless of groupthink. So I care if they got the draft pick right, but I have no care if they got good theoretical draft board value. And I have no idea if they got the pick right. I've never watched an Alabama St. football game. Maybe some of you guys who regularly watch Alabama St can weigh in on how he played for them. |
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I think the comparison to Duane Brown is accurate. Taking Brown at #25 was thought to be a reach and the Texans responded by saying he was the last LT on their board who could adapt to the zone blocking scheme in a WCO plan.
Howard provides size. He's bigger than Dillard and should be a RT or RG even if he washes out at LT. No panic button, just surprise at the folks they passed over to take him. BTW, it should be noted that I filed for retirement this month and have plans to move to Panama sometime in August. I've been getting together the necessary paperwork to apply for a pensionado visa down there. Hoping to get together with Chuck but I'm going to live a considerable distance from Panama City. Despite our feuding online, he's been a great help in planning this change and I greatly appreciate his input. (Keith, if this announcement becomes a discussion, feel free to spin it off to another thread.) |
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"No. Use your hands. Your hands. Su manos. Pick it up. Don't hold it above your head..." |
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Awesome Bob. Keep us posted on progress and any non-OSHA sights you come across!
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That would be great except 80% of my dialogue would be one long bleep.
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Also, I thought the best arguing these days happens on Twitter.
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Congratulations Bob!
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I wouldn't be surprised if Howard is a superior OT to Dillard over the long-term but short-term, well Watson had better buckle it up again in 2019. Howard did play both LT & RT because Bama-State had a right-handed QB & also a lefty at QB sometimes. |
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