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Old 04-30-2016, 01:00 AM
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Default Official 2016 NFL Draft - Round 4-7 Thread

Three picks left to start Day 3. Will the Texans continue to ignore the tight end position? Or the defense?
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Old 04-30-2016, 01:31 AM
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Where did everyone go, by the way? I remember when we used to have tons of traffic here on draft days. And not on the old site, either. After that spineless dickwit Sweeney shut the other site down there was still lots of traffic here for many years. Where did everyone go? I'm asking a serious question because I literally do not visit any other Texans boards.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:11 AM
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Three picks left to start Day 3. Will the Texans continue to ignore the tight end position? Or the defense?
Besides TE we need a replacement for starting DE Jared Crick and it's uncertain if LT Duane Brown will be ready to go for the opener in September. Maybe they think they can get these guys as undrafted rookie free agents.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:59 AM
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Using my draft board, I would have drafted these guys for the Texans:
#21 WR Josh Doctson
#50 DE Bronson Kaufusi
#85 TE Nick Vannett

My top available players going into the 4th round with 2nd round grades:
RB Kenneth Dixon La Tech
NT Hassan Ridgeway Texas
QB Connor Cook Michigan St (REALLY?? He's still available?)

Guys I gave 3rd round grades to:
OC Christian Westerman Az St
S Miles Killebrew S. Utah
QB Dak Prescott Miss State (The DUI killed him in my opinion)
LBO Charles Tapper Oklahoma
WR Malcolm Mitchell Georgia
TE Jerell Adams S. Carolina
RB Devontae Booker Utah
RB Jonathan Williams Arkansas
OG Connor McGovern Missouri
CB Maurice Canady Virginia
DE Matt Ioannidis Temple
OT Joe Haeg North Dakota St
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Old 04-30-2016, 10:19 AM
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Well, I'm happy to see the first 3 picks go to the offense though it didn't exactly shake out like I was expecting. I suppose the defense will get a turn or two with the next 3 picks. If they go back to the offense, I'd like to see them go for a guard or tackle.... been some speculation that the TE position has been downgraded and will be used mainly for blocking in the future, i.e. more slot looks, more 4 wides..............

Don't forget the UDFA's that will follow the draft... Might find a gem or two there...

So, currently Texans picking once in the 4th, twice in the 5th and none in the 6th and 7th rounds...
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:04 AM
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Been in Pasadena, CA busy as hell for work and haven't been able to watch any of the draft live or listen to HTown radio. Sucks because this is one my favorite weekends of the year. What did the Texans give up to move up in RD1 for Fuller?

Not a huge fan of Fuller's, but I get the speed factor and how he can stretch the D. I like the Martin pick a lot. I like the Miller pick, but I'm not sure there was a need to move up for him. I guess if you want your guy, though... I see him as a slot, PR/KR, 3rd-down RB, and of course, wildcat and emergency QB. He's a good value pick.

Today is BPA day, IMO. Don't care what position it is, other than maybe QB, RB and WR.

And let me just say, the CA version of Pasadena is a hell of a lot nicer than the TX version.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:15 AM
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I'm good with BPA, excepting WR. Not desperate for any position. Let some young guys on team develop hopefully.

I too seem to be very busy at work this year and least time in 10 years to look at mock drafts. Mostly thanks to Roy for his analysis.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:18 AM
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Andrew Billings, Joshua Perry, D. Booker, Jeremy Cash, miles k, Alex Collins, K. Dixon, Jerald Hawkins, Westerman, Ridgeway, kj Dillon, Willie Henry, Sheldon day, and Jerrel Adams to name a few.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:21 AM
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Connor Cook goes to the Raiders to back up Derek Carr. The Cowboys get one of my Favorite Pass-Rushers, Charles Tapper from the Combine. Hoped that My Colts would get him. Joshua Perry was a guy I thought might be able to eventually replace Cushing. With Vigil, Schobert, and Perry off the board; I am hopeful that Blake Martinez might be a pick.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:29 AM
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I'm sitting here looking at one of my favorite OL Christian Westerman on the board. I Preferred him over Nick Martin. However, Kenneth Dixon is still there too and I would have a very hard time passing on him since I gave him my highest 2nd round grade. Here is the measurable comparisons:
Christian Westerman Az St 6' 3 1/8" 298 3 1.79 5.17 7.69 4.71 25" 8'2" 34 11 7/8" 33 1/2"
Nick Martin Notre Dame 6' 4 1/8" 299 3 1.80 5.22 7.57 4.72 28" 8'1" 28 9 3/4" 32 1/2"

Westerman had 34 Bench Press Reps vs. Martin's 28. Westerman has 11 7/8" hands vs 9 3/4". Westerman has 33 1/2" arms vs. 32 1/2" Otherwise, they are essentially the same player, physically.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:47 AM
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Tyler Higbee just got arrested last month so I dropped him down my board. Surprised to see him go here with Jerrel Adams still on the board. Very interesting. And there goes Miles Killebrew
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:48 AM
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The Patriots just got one of my favorite WRs in the draft. It wouldn't surprise me if he is more productive than Will Fuller.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:52 AM
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Tyler Higbee just got arrested last month so I dropped him down my board. Surprised to see him go here with Jerrel Adams still on the board. Very interesting. And there goes Miles Killebrew
I've seen Higbee described as "an idiot" in scouting reports in reference to his off-the-field problems. Jeff Fisher doesn't seem to mind rolling the dice on that stuff.
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:04 PM
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The Colts pass on the RB, but I am very pleased that Ridgeway is the selection!!!! The Colts now have a NT
Hassan Ridgeway Texas 6' 3 3/8" 303lbs 1.72 5.02 7.33 4.69 32" 9' 5" 24 9 3/8" 33"
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:07 PM
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The Texans pick is coming up....I really like Kenneth Dixon, even with Lamar Miller on the squad. Westerman seems redundant with Nick Martin here. Dak Prescott is probably not the selection, though I would be all in. The TE Jerell Adams or even OG Connor McGovern would make sense.
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:13 PM
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They select Tyler Ervin at #119.
Using my draft board, I would have drafted these guys for the Texans:
#21 WR Josh Doctson
#50 DE Bronson Kaufusi
#85 TE Nick Vannett
#119 RB Kenneth Dixon
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:19 PM
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Dang it. We passed on a chance to upgrade at WR.
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:30 PM
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Another fast guy at RB, Tyler Irving, low 40 yd dash at 4.24.

Flexible at positions including special teams.

Any super fast safety or CB left on the board?
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:31 PM
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At his size, Ervin looks more like a slot receiver than a running back. Spartans coaches got him the ball in the backfield regularly the past two years, however, and it paid dividends as he led the team in rushing in 2014 (888 yards, four scores) and 2015 (1,469 yards, 13 touchdowns). Ervin's likely to play a rusher/receiver/returner role in the Dexter McCluster mold on Sundays, as he caught 73 passes for 642 yards the past two seasons in addition to his rushing work. His ability as a kick returner (2,374 career yardage, three scores) should also earn him credit among scouts.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profil...vin?id=2555234
Good deal, he returns kicks.
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Old 04-30-2016, 12:43 PM
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Any super fast safety or CB left on the board?
CB Maurice Canady Virginia 6'1" 193 4.49 7.03 4.09 38" 10'4" 16 9 1/8" 31 5/8"
S Tyvis Powell Ohio St 6' 2 3/4" 211 4.46 7.03 4.25 34.5" 10' 0" 15 9 1/2" 32 3/4"
CB Anthony Brown Purdue 5' 11 1/4" 192 4.35 7.03 4.19 35" 9' 7" 19 8 1/4" 31 3/4"
CB Jonathan Jones Auburn 5' 9 1/8" 186 5 4.33 7.25 4.25 36" 10' 3" 19 8 3/4" 30 1/4"
S KJ Dillon West Va 6'0" 210 5 4.53 7.27 4.43 28" 10' 1" 11 9 5/8" 31 5/8"
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