Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[painekiller]

Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.

30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU
224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON



I made some moves:

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 3 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 15

The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.

[Nconroe]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.

30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU
224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON



The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.

I like the links so we can look up details on each player quick and easy.

[HPF Bob]

I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
77: R3P14 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
79: R3P16 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
167: R5P27 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.

85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE

By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.

I agree totally. Hack has not shown anything in two years. He might have been better served transferring somewhere that the offense better served him and showing he was not a one year wonder, freshman year no less. As of now, OB does not have to draft a "franchise" QB early, and that will hurt Hack with the Texans.

I cannot say how many mocks I have done where a solid QB is available and I have walked right past him to a position of higher need. If you want to a flyer on a QB late in the draft, a fifth or later, then I am good with that. I love Adams from Oregon as a UDFA, to give you a camp arm.

The biggest issue I see is reps. The team is going to want to get OS as many reps as possible in OTAs and camp, and they want to hold on to Hoyer to possibly trade to a team that gets hit with an injury for some kind of value. And you have to get him reps, along with Savage. He needs reps. So how can you develop a young guy with no reps.

Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.

I think keeping Hoyer is a good strategy. We could do far worse at backup QB and it's not like he's all that expensive. I think he'd be good for Os to have around. If they don't feel Savage has a future, then by all means draft a guy like Adams, Hogan or Driskell, etc. late in the draft. I'd rather a have Hoyer and a rookie prospect than hang onto Savage who has zero experience to help out and likely has no starting future.

[painekiller]

Using the FanSpeak list.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
70: R3P7 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
94: R3P31 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
130: R4P31 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
160: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
167: R5P27 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
183: R6P7 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA


TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 7
ROUND: 6 PICK: 7

Got additional picks with a trade down and a future pick.

This is a solid list in the 2nd 3rd 4th rounds.

Got my Brown insurance, future OT in Conklin, which gives me more versatility along the line, in that same vain I took Martin, and guy that can play OG or OC.

In the 2nd and 4th I took two DTs that can play either NT or 3-4 DE. Both are solid against the run. And showed well at the Senior Bowl in one on ones.

Grabbed both RBs from Arkansas, why not keep them pushing each other, one is a scat back, choppy runner and one is more of a power back. (Maybe time for Blue to move on).

If all Cyrus Jones did on this team was return punts than he would be a steal, but he also is money covering the slot receiver.

Listenbee is a speedster on the outside. And Cayleb Jones is big bodied guy with solid hands. Also has some baggage in his distant past.

Added size and speed to the roster, added guys that can make plays, added some meanness to the OL. Not a bad draft IMO.

[HPF Bob]

If they intend to keep Hoyer, then they won't draft a QB but I would rather release or trade him and use the cap savings to bring back Jared Crick.

As far as Hackenberg, I'm simply responding to the mutual admiration
O'Brien and Hackenberg have for each other and the belief he will flourish here better than anywhere else.

You don't want someone who directly competes against Ossie this year but someone who can step in if he gets injured or falters. I don't see last year's starter as being the guy for that.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

I like the links so we can look up details on each player quick and easy.

I thought of cutting the entire page for each player but that was to cumbersome. So I added the links, glad you enjoyed it.

BTW those are Lance Zeirlien's breakdowns on the players.