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Anyway, I'd love to make that trade and end up with 2 second rounders no matter who we might end up taking. |
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Sel--Pos--Name-----------School---------Index 28.--DT--Ziggy Hood-------Missouri-------5.79 46.--OC--Eric Wood--------Louisville------5.00 53.--DE--Paul Kruger-------Utah----------4.82 77.--RB--Rashad Jennings--Liberty--------5.76 112.-SS--David Bruton-----Notre Dame----5.75 122.-LB--Scott McKillop----Pittsburgh-----5.58 5th.-FS--Chris Clemons----Clemson--------5.09 6th.-DT--Roy Miller--------Texas----------5.31 7th.-CB--Don Carey-------Norfolk State---4.84 I am under the impressions that Ziggy Hood and Okoye can both play at the same time, moving TJ to the bench as part of a rotation. When we need to stop the run on goal line situations, Roy Miller can play a more traditional NT. Paul Kruger is my situational pass-rusher. He is a cheaper version of Clint Sintim, in my opinion. Kruger is also better against the run. As I said, I debated Greene vs. Jennings at #77. I took Jennings because he's a little more agile and explosive. He also is younger, so we may see him continue to improve. Greene was productive last year in college, but he may be at his maximum potential since he's already 24 years old. Unfortunately, I was unable to garner a WLB in this draft. McKillop is a run-stuffing SAM. I was holding out hope that McGrath would be on the board at #112, since I was unable to draft Matthews in the 1st round. I am pleased to have Bruton, Clemons, and Carey to add to the Secondary. Wood is my favorite pick because he can play RG or OC.
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Well, I wouldn't worry about WLB in the draft now, we just signed Cato June in addition to Buster Davis. That give us 8 LBs that I think belong in the NFL (perhaps Buster Davis doesn't, we'll see) and all of them, with the exception of Chaun Thompson can play WLB: DRyans, Bentley, Adibi, Diles, Coley, CJune, BDavis |
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Outside of Bently though I don't think we have a true Sam on the Roster.
I imagine that it kinda looks like this now: SLB: Bentley competes with Diles and Coley MLB: Ryans is the starter with Diles, Cato June and Possibly Coley as the backups WLB: Adibi competes with Cato June, Buster Davis, and Diles DRyans, Bentley, Adibi, Diles, Coley, CJune, BDavis |
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I would guess that if we do not draft any LBs, we are looking at Bentley, Ryans, June as the starters.
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Chaun Thompson is a true SAM. He got hurt in pre-season and was forgotten about. But, his playing weight is about 255 lbs. He's a good pass rusher and is also athletic enough to deal with many TEs. He's still young, under contract, and has had some NFL success. In 2005, starting for Cleveland, he had 5 sacks and 84 tackles playing ROLB. He lost his starting job with the coaching change in 2006. |
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I think Adibi is the favorite to start at WILL. Also, I think CThompson has a shot at SAM. Supposedly, Adibi has added some good weight and looks much more the part. I think Cato June is likely to sub in on passing downs.
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Diles was the leading tackler on the team until he was hurt, do you see him getting beat out if he comes back 100%?
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I seriously hope that he gets beat out.
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I dont have tape to go back to, but I seem to recall that he made some pretty good plays. I would like to know why you dont think he is a good football player though. |
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And now to get us back on Tek, their draft for April 6th, number 33, has us taking:
15 Knowshon Moreno RBF Georgia 46 DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt 77 Patrick Chung SS Oregon 112 Ricky Jean-Francois DT43 LSU 122 Scott McKillop ILB Pittsburgh 152 Richard Quinn TE North Carolina 188 Andrew Gardner OT Georgia Tech 223 Sammy Stroughter WRS Oregon St Time for a my cherry pick with the 28 and 53: 28 Connor Barwin OLB34 Cincinnati 46 Eric Wood OC Louisville 53 William Moore FS Missouri 77 Patrick Chung SS Oregon 112 Kevin Barnes CB Maryland 122 Gregory Toler CB St.Paul Virginia 152 Johnny Knox WRS Abilene Christian 188 Javarris Williams RBF Tennessee State 223 Ryan Purvis TE Boston College Barwin will be a pass rush specialist as he learn the SAM LB position. Woods will get time at both RG while he learn the line call. Moore and Chung, why? Because. Hindsight I go Andre Brown RBF North Carolina St instead of Moore. Tolar is the pet small school project to soon guy. Oh and Knox is to small WR guy, bye bye Jacoby. Williams because he is the best RB available in 3 round and I was starting to panic. Purvis can block inline and has receiving skills.,
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Do teams have to game plan around a player, until they do that player can be upgraded.
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I don't think anyone was saying that. Statistics don't tell the whole story but they do indicate production. Myself and others wonder why so much draft focus has been at LB, not because we have 3 all-pros starting there. Instead, it's because I think we all see youth, some depth, and a number of players that looked like they belonged in the NFL. Meanwhile, if you look at our serious lack of depth at RB, interior OL, and a real lack of production and athleticism from the saftey position then LB hardly seems like a position to be targeted in the first round.
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We've spent 1st round picks on TJ and Okoye, so I'm sure that there would be much grumbling about doing that again, especially after signing Shaun Cody (unless we trade Travis during the draft). Having signed a DE to replace Weaver, I'm not sure if it would be a good strategy to draft a 1st round player with the amount of guaranteed money he'd make, to come in on 3rd downs. The CB situation with Dunta may make a 1st round pick on one possible. However, Jenkins doesn't appear to fit our system and Davis has some issues that need to be looked into. Maybe Darius Butler, but I'm not sure how much of an "impact" he'd have. It's kind of a logical deduction that LB is the place to go, which makes the Cato June signing a little remarkable.
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Well, hopefully that is a bit of misdirection because it sure is foolish to make those kinds of announcements before the draft. Also, if they are going to target a specific position (LB), then they had better be willing and determined to trade down instead a reach for the guy. I like what they did last year with Duane Brown... they sat at their spot hoping someone like Brandon Albert would fall to them, then, instead of reaching for Brown they traded down and took him later. Perhaps it was still a reach, but I don't have a problem going after him after they accumulated some extra picks. |
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I just hope the Bills don't draft our guy at #11.
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IMO, I think the positions on our team that need the most help now are the D-line, O-line, and RB.
We are pretty well stocked at CB/S with players like Barber, Harrison, and Molden jockeying for some PT and our LB corp has recently been stockedpiled through FA. I believe one pick per would suffice, we have so many other needs to address. If I was Kubiak, I would move T.J and Okam to the practice squad to send a clear message that their time here could be in jeopardy if they don't pick it up. Shaun Cody is a backup, at best. Detroit was happy to see him go. Also, our O-line has been terrible, regardless of what our offense did. Schaub and Sage were on their backs and getting injured too often to have any real chance of success, and I'm sure part of that stems from a real lack of depth at the RB position, but it(O-line) also could could stand to be bolstered as well in this draft. 28. Peria Jerry DT One of the best DT available who has a real chance of being there 46. Ziggy Hood DT Excellent size with a non stop motor. Our D-line would be set for a decade if we could materialize those two picks alone, though very unlikely. (Backup pick-Jarron Gilbert) Any two out of three would be a success to me. We have to start putting pressure on QB's in order to win close games. 53. Rashad Jennings RB Very strong runner who keeps himself in excellent shape, could be pro-bowl RB(he won't be there in the 3rd) 77. Mike Mickens CB Impressive playmaker with good instincts that could play CB and FS 112. Zach Follett WILL Cerebral player, EXPERIENCED, excellent blitzer that will give Bush the OLB to make plays in the backfield 122. T.J. Lang OG/C/OT Tough, hardworking player, very versatile that fits our ZBS 152. S. Vollmer OT Intriguing prospect that would provide depth at R or LT 188. Patrick Turner WR/TE Texans steal a player late in the draft 223. Gantrell Johnson RB Powerful runner, "bowling ball", downhill runner, sure handed UFA Phillip Hunt DE Kubiak really liked this kid when he got a chance to see him practice at Reliant everyday, good against the run UFA Robert Francois OLB Insurance for Diles, Adibi, or Bentley UFA Ryan McKee OT More depth with good speed for the ZB Last edited by Blitzwood; 04-07-2009 at 11:11 PM. |
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I rarely would make this argument but in this case I have to: We would have too much money tied up into one kind of player at one position: Okoye, TJ, PJerry, Ziggy Hood. DT isn't like DE. With a DE, you can move them inside on passing downs and create mismatches to get to the QB. However, the only advantage to all these smallish DTs is the ability to keep them fresh. Even so, they are all vulnerable against the run. So, we'd have 4 guys that are all ideal for passing downs and nobody that is good on the run downs. And, the team will only keep 4-5 DTs on the 53 man roster so all kinds of problems would result from that draft. |
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Our O-Line has been terrible in the past. It wasn't terrible last season. We don't very good production from Slaton and the yards per game that our QBs combined for last season with a terrible O-Line. I'm not saying that they were dominant by any stretch, but they were at least average. While it would be nice to be able to convert more 3rd downs, the worst problem the offense had was with fumbles and interceptions and the blame for those can be spread further than just the O-Line. With all of that "criticism" I don't think your draft is a bad one. I could understand getting Jerry in the 1st, but would go with a play making S instead of Ziggy (perhaps his teammate William Moore).
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