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I don't know if he's maxed out or not, but I have heard some people propose moving him to LB.
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260 is plenty big to rush the passer in the NFL. Not to mention he is 6'4". That makes him bigger than either of the Colts great DEs Freeney and Mathis. Orakpo may fall, I don't know enough about him to say either way, and it will depend on the combine for him like anyone else. But it won't have anything to do with being too small. |
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He's not a "natural" 260. He's very cut and bulked up, but his frame is maxed out. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I am saying that's something I think will make him more prone to falling than players who have a bigger perceived upside. |
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How do you figure his frame is maxed out. In addition to being heavier than the other prospects he is also taller (more room to fill out). Either way it is irrelevant if you think he is maxed out because he is already more than big enough to play the position and doesn't need to grow another pound. Again, when has a pass rushing DE of his size ever been down graded postseason because of concerns about their frame? |
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Have you ever seen him? He's ridiculously muscular. Believe me, there's no more room for growth on his body.
And, again, you're mischaracterizing my argument; I never said there's concern about his frame. I said he is prone to dropping because he doesn't have the ceiling that top 5 picks tend to have. In that respect he's analogous to DeMeco; a productive college player who's very good, but doesn't have that perceived elite potential. |
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Again, I ask for an example of a DE who got this label and fell in the postseason. |
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I will jump in here on the side of Nero in the arguement, well kinda. Orakpo is a one trick pony, a very desirable trick, but a specialist. At 260, he has little room to get larger, hence to be considered a normal everydown DE, Frenny is the expection. I see Orakpo as a Merriman type, someone that goes into the 3-4 and excels because he does not have to concern himself with the run. If I had only one hole and that was DE, then I would not have problem taking a pass rushing only DE in the 1st. Do I prefer it, no.
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I would hope that Orapko would fall past #10, or #15, or even #20. But Tim Bullman, with his 4 sacks has shown that he can be the regular RDE, so Orapko could be the designated passrusher on 3rd and 4th down. Of course that is just my opinion at this moment, subject to change with events.
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overall 1 and 2 - DT and S 3/4/5 - big RB, Edge Rusher, Interior OL, maybe a mobile QB if we fall in love with one 6/7 - great special teamers, one of whom plays MLB. |
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I'm starting to warm up to the idea of a safety, but I'd still rather have a LB. Who knows who Diles will come back from his injury? And he was definitely an upgradeable player as it stood pre-injury. Bentley is nice depth, as is Diles, but I think our SLB position could use a first round talent. |
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Who's Roy?
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Aaahh, you justify it by the increased number of sacks, and the intimidation of the opposing QB.
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Yeah, it's about time for RP to start jumping in again with his views on rookie prospects in the Draft.
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After seeing some LSU games, i'm sold on Herman Johnson. He is projected by most as a second rounder and I think he would be a steal if he could be had there.
So a draft of... 1. George Selive - DE USF 2. Herman Johnson - OG LSU 3. Shonn Greene - RB Iowa 4. Patrick Chung - S Oregon 5. Ron Brace - DT Boston College 6. Tom Brandstater - QB Fresno State ... would look nice to me. |
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That works for me, however I don't see Patrick Chung lasting till the 4th rnd. Gone by the second IMO.
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