2013 Mocks and Needs

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32 DeAndre Hopkins* WR Clemson 6' 2" 194
62 Oday Aboushi OT Virginia 6' 6" 310
94 Desmond Trufant CB Washington 6' 0" 172.
126 Bruce Taylor ILB Virginia Tech 6' 2" 246
158 Tobias Smith OG Mississippi State 6' 3" 305
190 Mario Benavides OC Louisville 6' 4" 304

Not a bad mock and not a great one either. To many OL prospects to go along with the young OL talent currently on the team.

32 Bacarri Rambo S Georgia 6' 1" 208
62 Prentiss Waggner CB Tennessee 6' 2" 181
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Devon Kennard DE USC 6' 3" 255
158 Cameron Marshall RB Arizona State 5' 11" 217
190 Michael Williams TE Alabama 6-5 272

[Nconroe]

Right now your mock looks reasonable to me.

I agree OL likely ok with some experience.

A Wilfork type DT seems hard to find.

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32 Keenan Allen* WR Cal 6' 3" 195
62 Nico Johnson OLB Alabama 6' 3" 238
94 Tyrann Mathieu* CB LSU 5' 9" 180
126 Jake Olson OT Central Michigan 6' 8" 290
158 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State 5' 9" 185
190 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6' 4" 275
222 Kaleb Ramsey DT Boston College 6' 3" 288

This is one way the draft could play out.

[HPF Bob]

Getting Honey Badger in the third would upgrade the return game and he'd be an exceptional nickel back. That would be a great pickup in the third.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Getting Honey Badger in the third would upgrade the return game and he'd be an exceptional nickel back. That would be a great pickup in the third.

He would have to ace his interview, his continued drug issues are not the type of things the Texans overlook. One time issues and contrite responses work for the Texans, but Mathieu has not been working with his team, and he has had issues since his rehab, does not look like a Texans type guy.

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Originally Posted by painekiller

32 Keenan Allen* WR Cal 6' 3" 195
62 Nico Johnson OLB Alabama 6' 3" 238
94 Tyrann Mathieu* CB LSU 5' 9" 180
126 Jake Olson OT Central Michigan 6' 8" 290
158 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State 5' 9" 185
190 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6' 4" 275
222 Kaleb Ramsey DT Boston College 6' 3" 288

This is one way the draft could play out.

Not a bad mock, so I am looking at this from a different place. Tried to come up with some different names. Overall they are new names but some I have not used in a while.

32 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
62 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina 6' 7" 265 (a little early for this DE project, needs to add weight and strength)
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Cameron Marshall RB Arizona State 5' 11" 217
158 Devon Kennard OLB USC 6' 3" 255
190 Dan Buckner WR Arizona 6' 4" 215 (character flag, arrested for criminal trespass transferred and has been clean since)
222 Michael Williams TE Alabama 6'6" 270

[HPF Bob]

Buckner is the former Longhorn that had some problems one spring and was dropped/transferred. Big target. Not elite speed. Average hands. He's a matchup problem for most college DBs but I'm not sure he would be anything special in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Buckner is the former Longhorn that had some problems one spring and was dropped/transferred. Big target. Not elite speed. Average hands. He's a matchup problem for most college DBs but I'm not sure he would be anything special in the NFL.

And a flyer in the 6th round by a team that will not be very easy for anyone to make if they are picked after the 4th round. His crime was a criminal trespass in College Station, as you stated he went to UT, he was suspended by the longhorns and he transferred, sat out in Arizona, his red shirt year he was voted Scout team player of the year by his teammates, so he stayed in football and worked hard to put an incident behind him.

Honey Badger has been suspended by his team, could have transferred, choose not to, re-enrolled at LSU, then was arrested again for having high grade weed in his apartment. He has been away from football, and has continued a pattern of trouble with weed, and the law. Being a junior he can not play in any of the scout games after the season.

[HPF Bob]

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

I agree, in fact Mathieu could have been a top 15 pick, his height is not ideal, and he could not stop his demons. I am having PacMan flashes with him. If he can stay under control he could be a huge steal. But that is a big if.

[HPF Bob]

I'm not disagreeing. A team that has good depth and the team has a few strong leaders that can keep a young player in line, can take that chance in the third round. I compare it to when Denver drafted Maurice Clarett. If you can accept that you might have just drafted a bust, you can take the gamble. Clarett did become a bust but he might also have been great.

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Found another top 200 draft stock list: National Football Post

Using their rankings I could see the Texans having a draft like the following

1 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 201
2 Shayne Skove ILB Stanford 6'1" 245
3a Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia 6' 206
3b Blidi Wrey-Wilson CB UConn 6' 190
4 John Jenkins NT Georgia 6'4" 363
5a Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6'6" 255
5b La'Veon Bell RB Michigan St 6'2" 245

This would be a huge draft IMO. Williams is a solid 2 and a future 1, would give us a great young pair(added to Posey) of WR to help lengthen AJ career. Skove is a prototype for 3-4 ILB. Rambo is ball hawk, Wrey-Wilson is a raw prospect who has solid man coverage skills. Jenkins is a top 50 player shocked they have him this low, but he gives the Texans a presence in the middle like they have never had. Fauria has soft hands, is a huge target for the red zone, and a willing blocker. Bell is a power back who could be special with some coaching.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Found another top 200 draft stock list: National Football Post

Using their rankings I could see the Texans having a draft like the following

1 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 201
2 Shayne Skove ILB Stanford 6'1" 245
3a Bacarri Rambo FS Georgia 6' 206
3b Blidi Wrey-Wilson CB UConn 6' 190
4 John Jenkins NT Georgia 6'4" 363
5a Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6'6" 255
5b La'Veon Bell RB Michigan St 6'2" 245

This would be a huge draft IMO. Williams is a solid 2 and a future 1, would give us a great young pair(added to Posey) of WR to help lengthen AJ career. Skove is a prototype for 3-4 ILB. Rambo is ball hawk, Wrey-Wilson is a raw prospect who has solid man coverage skills. Jenkins is a top 50 player shocked they have him this low, but he gives the Texans a presence in the middle like they have never had. Fauria has soft hands, is a huge target for the red zone, and a willing blocker. Bell is a power back who could be special with some coaching.

Good looking Draft there PK, except where's your RT ? Most everybody has us taking a tackle prospect in the first or second round to play on the right side.

[HPF Bob]

This doesn't seem too realistic. Bell, in particular, shouldn't last until the fifth. He's a workhorse and a load although I think he's a step slow for the NFL, some of these guys still make it work.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

This doesn't seem too realistic. Bell, in particular, shouldn't last until the fifth. He's a workhorse and a load although I think he's a step slow for the NFL, some of these guys still make it work.

I agree on the does not seem realistic, but hey it is someones list that looks like a national writer. I would be happy if our draft fell like this.

And for nunusguy, no I do not see us needing to go with a RT in early part of the draft, I think we are looking ok at RT, Newton has started to look pretty solid. And I also hope we resign Ryan Harris, though Andrew Gardner look ok in limited play. That would give us three decent tackles. More than most teams, and don't forget Mondek is still on the practice squad, if he is able to make the jump he has the potential to be a nice swing guy also. That is 5 OTs, and don't forget Brooks can play RT in a pinch. I don't see the Texans going tackle unless a really good one slides to them.

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Originally Posted by painekiller

And for nunusguy, no I do not see us needing to go with a RT in early part of the draft, I think we are looking ok at RT, Newton has started to look pretty solid. And I also hope we resign Ryan Harris, though Andrew Gardner look ok in limited play. That would give us three decent tackles. More than most teams, and don't forget Mondek is still on the practice squad, if he is able to make the jump he has the potential to be a nice swing guy also. That is 5 OTs, and don't forget Brooks can play RT in a pinch. I don't see the Texans going tackle unless a really good one slides to them.

I am really having to rethink the OL after the game today...

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31 Akeem Spence* DT Illinois 6' 1" 305
61 Alvin Bailey* OG Arkansas 6' 5" 319
93 Tavarres King WR Georgia 6' 1" 184
125 Kenny Tate OLB Maryland 6' 4" 220
157 B.W. Webb CB William & Mary 5' 11" 160
189 Dustin Hopkins K Florida State 6' 2" 183
221 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240

[HPF Bob]

If we don't reach the Super Bowl, our 1-3 collapse will help our draft position slightly. Not that I'd trade, mind you.

Anyone see WR Marquis Goodwin in the Alamo Bowl? I wouldn't mind spending a second or third on him, particularly since he would make a better KR than Martin. He's got that extra gear like Jacoby Jones but he's a much smarter kid.

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29 Akeem Spence* DT Illinois 6' 1" 305
59 Brian Winters OT Kent State 6' 6" 294
91 Omoregie Uzzi OG Georgia Tech 6' 3" 300
123 Zach Line FB Southern Methodist 6' 1" 235
155 Brandon Sharpe DE Syracuse 6' 1" 255
187 Reid Fragel OT Ohio State 6' 8" 298
219 Josh Evans S Florida 6' 1" 195

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29 Matt Elam* S Florida 5' 10" 199
59 T.J. McDonald S USC 6' 2" 205
91 Braxston Cave OC Notre Dame 6' 3" 303
123 Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M 6' 0" 204
155 Chris Jones DT Bowling Green 6' 2" 290
187 Nick Florence QB Baylor 6' 1" 205
219 Rod Sweeting CB Georgia Tech 6' 0" 184

Not a very good mock IMO.