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Old 04-07-2016, 09:36 AM
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I tried the Fanspeak board (4/5) and it was Trade-a-Palooza. The Bengals wanted me to trade down to #24, then the Seahawks wanted me to trade down to #26 then the Panthers wanted me to trade down to #30, picking up extra selections along the way which I then used to trade up with the Rams in Round 2 and trade up with the Saints in Round 3. Finally, I traded down one spot in the 3rd with Philadelphia to pocket an extra sixth. In the end, I got everything covered except a DE to replace Crick.

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
43: R2P12 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
79: R3P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
124: R4P26 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
188: R6P13 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
225: R7P4 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 26
ROUND: 7 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

TRADE PARTNER:
LA RAMS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 12

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 15

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16
ROUND: 6 PICK: 13
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:09 AM
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Been out of town, but I'm back now. Another mock utilizing the CBS board. I traded out of the 1st round for two 2nd round picks. I was not sure that I would like the results, but I did. I wanted to give some props to Roy for making me take a look at a couple of the guys I took in this draft. Also my trade down was attempted in order to target a couple of them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH
119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA
Had some new guys added to my draft above, so here is the list with links with their draft profile from NFL.com

52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH
119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:23 PM
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39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA
79: R3P16 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
85: R3P22 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
91: R3P28 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
108: R4P10 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
119: R4P21 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
148: R5P9 RG GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
195: R6P20 QB CODY KESSLER USC
196: R6P21 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
204: R6P29 RB TRE MADDEN USC
243: R7P22 CB TAVON YOUNG TEMPLE

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21
ROUND: 6 PICK: 29
ROUND: 7 PICK: 22

TRADE PARTNER:
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 8
ROUND: 3 PICK: 11
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10
ROUND: 5 PICK: 9

I traded out of the first round and still got my guy Ryan Kelly! I was surprised to see Spriggs still sitting there at #74. He is going to take time to develop, but he could potentially become a starting LT in the NFL, so I felt there was value here with his athleticism. Bronson Kaufusi is slowly becoming one of my favorite players in this draft. He is older due to his Mission, but I like what I see and if he and Nassib are unavailable, I don't know who to get to fill in for Crick that I will be happy about. Javon Hargrave is a guy who I consistently draft. I selected 2 TEs and am pleased to do so when it's Vannett and Hooper. Von Bell is a guy I've seen projected as a 2nd rounder and I have a hard time buying that. However, if available at #108....I've decided to add him to My Guys. I got Malcolm Mitchell again. Feel really good about adding Kelly, Spriggs, and Glasgow to the OL group. Nick Vigil is going to be a good/solid NFL ILB and I'm preparing for the day when Cushing is no longer a Texan. Keyarris Garrett always shows up on my draft classes. Kevin Hogan came off the board @ #185 and with so many picks from trading down, I decided to get a game manager who lacks size, but makes up for it with intelligence and accuracy. Maybe I watched too many USC games, but I like this kid as a solid back-up who is much cheaper than Hoyer. I wanted a RB and Tre Madden was the guy with size/speed (6'0" 220lbs/7.09-Cone and 4.27-Shuttle) and still on the board (again, I watched some USC games). Tavon Young is only 5' 9 1/8" 183lbs, but I think he could play the slot. He has very good quickness (6.80-Cone and 3.93-Shuttle.
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:09 PM
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Wow! This was my hardest MOCK Draft to date. I constantly looked at my board and tried to determine who I should take because I had players ranked closely and wondered who might fall to the next round or if I might trade down and still be able to make selections of MY Guys.
31: R1P31 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST
57: R2P26 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
63: R2P32 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
125: R4P27 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 S T.J. GREEN CLEMSON
163: R5P24 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
195: R6P20 OLB DADI NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 31
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27
ROUND: 5 PICK: 24

I wanted extra picks so I took a leap of faith that I would get a good player and was pleased to have Conklin sitting there for me. Then I struggled to determine who I would take next, luckily I snagged Kaufusi, Garnett, and Collins with my next 3 selections. I needed a TE so moved Higbee up my board over Malcolm Mitchell and luckily was still able to get him later. When I got to pick #125 I contemplated taking Jordan Howard, but since I had Prosise ranked higher, I stuck to my board. All the good S prospects were gone except for TJ Green so I was forced to take him and hoped to get my WR, which I did with the next pick. At #166 I could have gone for another need position, but took Matt Ioannidis anyway because he was the BPA with a 3rd round grade in the 5th round. Lastly, I selected Dadi Nicolas to be a pass-rushing specialist.

I highly recommend to anyone to utilize the DraftTek database. It was definitely challenging and close to what I believe will be an actual draft class grade.
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.

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Old 04-07-2016, 09:29 PM
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Default DraftTek again....

26: R1P26 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
58: R2P27 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
90: R3P27 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA ST
119: R4P21 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
120: R4P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
123: R4P25 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P27 OLB JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
229: R7P8 QB CODY KESSLER USC

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
ROUND: 3 PICK: 27

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
ROUND: 4 PICK: 25
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 22

Had the 21st and 22nd picks in the 2nd round and I regret trading both of them for extra picks. Kaufusi went with the 24th pick in the 2nd. Otherwise, pretty happy with my haul. No RG is a bummer. Maybe I get Karras as a UDFA. Would really like to see my Combo of FS/SS that I got in the 4th round.
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Old 04-08-2016, 09:09 PM
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39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA
92: R3P29 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
99: R4P1 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
104: R4P6 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
148: R5P9 OLB KYLER FACKRELL UTAH STATE
166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
223: R7P2 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20
ROUND: 6 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS

SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 8
ROUND: 3 PICK: 11
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10
ROUND: 5 PICK: 9

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

Traded up for Derrick Henry and Nick Vannett. Then got back into the 7th round for Keyarris since I hadn't gotten a WR. I'd be just fine with this draft and feel like my board is starting to solidify.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:05 PM
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51: R2P20 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
52: R2P21 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
80: R3P17 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
99: R4P1 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
118: R4P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
119: R4P2 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
141: R5P2 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 157:
R5P18 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
195: R6P20 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
223: R7P2 QB CODY KESSLER USC

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK JETS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 20
ROUND: 3 PICK: 20
ROUND: 4 PICK: 20
ROUND: 5 PICK: 18

TRADE PARTNER:
BUFFALO BILLS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 27

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 17 - Traded UP for Josh Garnett

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 5 PICK: 2
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:19 AM
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Using the Draftek board and only one trade down, I was able to draft a board I'd be thrilled to have although several of these I expect to be selected earlier than where I have them. Realistic? Jared Goff wasn't taken til the second round. That's how realistic this was. Still, we never know how these things unfold.

24: R1P24 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO ST
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI ST
87: R3P24 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24

Decker can back up for a year but, eventually, replace Duane Brown. Kelly will anchor the center position for the next 10 years. Jones is a DT who is flexible enough to be a 3-4 DE. Hooper is the second-best TE according to most boards. Killebrew is a strong safety who hits like a LB. Prosise is not my ideal back but he only has to fit behind Miller and Blue. Norris a good ILB and Garrett a value addition as others here have pointed out. Only eight picks feels rather limiting after getting all these trade-down drafts but I like what this group brings to table. I have my doubts Kelly reaches #52 and I can see all the others being drafted higher than they are here but not outrageously so.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:23 PM
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1: R2P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
2: R2P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
3: R3P19 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
4: R4P13 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
5: R4P18 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
6: R4P21 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
7: R5P12 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
8: R5P16 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE
9: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
10: R5P27 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
11: R5P30 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
12: R6P20 RB TRE MADDEN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
13: R6P27 OLB VICTOR OCHI STONY BROOK

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 17
ROUND: 3 PICK: 19
ROUND: 4 PICK: 18
ROUND: 5 PICK: 16

TRADE PARTNER:
DETROIT LIONS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12
ROUND: 5 PICK: 30
ROUND: 6 PICK: 27

As a Colts fan I hope Indy selects Ryan Kelly, but I hope that they don't trade their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks to do so. I also hope that they would select Jack Conklin at #18 and not Cody Whitehair. But that's another discussion.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:32 PM
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30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
57: R2P26 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
99: R4P1 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
119: R4P21 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
122: R4P24 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE STATE
124: R4P26 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA STATE
129: R4P31 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
161: R5P22 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
163: R5P24 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
168: R5P29 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
223: R7P2 FB DAN VITALE NORTHWESTERN
225: R7P4 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
ROUND: 5 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 25

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 5 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 25
ROUND: 4 PICK: 26
ROUND: 7 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 4 PICK: 24
ROUND: 5 PICK: 22

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

I attempted to see how many trade downs I could do and feel comfortable about doing it. This is pretty much my max and believe it or not, I did decline a few trade scenarios. I kind of cheated seeing the "BPA" list on the side of the screen so I knew that I could attempt to take a guy later that I have ranked highest. I.E. I drafted Sterling Shepard and Josh Garnett because they were getting close on the list and I was able to wait on my personal BPA at the time Kaufusi. I did the same when I selected Jerrell Adams over Malcolm Mitchell. If I had been smart, I might have attempted to trade back up for players like Maliek Collins (#79) and Nick Vannett (#94). Correa was my BPA at #122. I took Haeg to complete my O-Line of Kelly, Garnett, and Haeg. I love Promise as my 3rd down back and because I had so many picks I took a flyer on Jonathan Williams. I always seem to take Keyarris and Hogan was my backup QB selection. Having extra picks I selected a pass-rush specialist in Dadi Nicolas. I have a H-Back in Dan Vitale. Then just to have a QB on the practice squad I grabbed Kessler.
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Old 04-13-2016, 01:02 PM
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Fanspeak 4/12 board

I didn't get any good trade-down opportunities in the first and second but took one in the third that netted two fourths and a sixth. Therefore, the draft is full of role players and not sexy:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
104: R4P6 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
119: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
130: R4P32 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE
159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
182: R6P7 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 32
ROUND: 6 PICK: 7
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Old 04-14-2016, 01:06 PM
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After the big trade and a new 4/19 NFL.com big board to play with, I took a small trade down and got a decent, not great, draft:

27: R1P27 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
88: R3P25 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 G LANDON TURNER NORTH CAROLINA
159: R5P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
166: R5P27 ILB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO ST.
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:33 PM
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After the big trade and a new 4/19 NFL.com big board to play with.
22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST.
52: R2P21 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 FS SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
159: R5P20 OLB CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
195: R6P20 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA

I was unable to trade down for "Value" and came away with these picks. Conklin gives me flexibility with the OL. Shepard and Mitchell are nice additions to the WRs. Collins gives me push up the middle. Davis is a big hitter who can cover and I really was surprised to see him available in the 4th. Tapper is a project at OLB, but I like his measurables. Canady was was simply the BPA. Bummed I couldn't come away with at least one TE and I would need to trade down and get an extra pick to find one for the roster.
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4/12 CBS board:

A bit strange. With the big trade, I sense the OTs may drop a little bit which might allow Conklin or Decker to fall to us. The question will be whether now is the time to upgrade the OT position and prepare for Duane Brown to be next spring's big cap casualty.With some of the other options (Ragland, Elliott, Lynch, Reed), I'm becoming bigger on taking the good LTs while you can.

I traded down in the second for a lower 2nd and a 3rd then traded the lower 2nd for a 3rd and a 5th. I missed out on some of the guys I wanted but still had a decent draft, not a dazzler.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
71: R3P8 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
149: R5P10 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 8
ROUND: 5 PICK: 10
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4/12 CBS board:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
71: R3P8 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
149: R5P10 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Solid results, I could live with this one. Not sexy put solid.
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You can never have too many good cover corners and you can never have too many good OTs.
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37: R2p6 c ryan kelly alabama
58: R2p27 wr sterling shepard oklahoma
68: R3p5 g joshua garnett stanford
85: R3p22 dt maliek collins nebraska
105: R4p7 te austin hooper stanford
119: R4p21 de bronson kaufusi brigham young
123: R4p25 te jerell adams s. Carolina
159: R5p20 ot joe haeg n. Dakota st.
166: R5p27 ilb nick vigil utah st.
195: R6p20 rb jonathan williams arkansas
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trade partner:
San francisco 49ers

sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22

received:
Round: 2 pick: 6
round: 3 pick: 5
round: 4 pick: 7

trade partner:
Pittsburgh steelers

sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21

received:
Round: 2 pick: 27
round: 4 pick: 25
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Roy, I could be happy with this except I don't see a need for two TEs in this draft. Select a decent RB at 4/25 like a Kenyan Drake or Paul Perkins who can be your third-down option. Then you can use that 6th rounder on a CB or S to add depth there.
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I would have taken Tyvus Powell, except I figured Jerell Adams would be more impactful on the roster. The Patriots looked good with Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez on the field together. I also felt like I need at least one of them to pan out and I double my chances in case one of them is a bust.
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I think CJ is salvageable so he can be paired with Hooper or Higbee or whomever. Hey, we do so many of these mocks that we don't explain some of our thinking. In general, I just take one player per position based on the severity of need and the scarcity of good options. Sometimes, what you want just isn't there and it changes the equation.

In general, my draft plan falls this way:

1) Best LT or DE/DT that could fit our scheme.
2) Ryan Kelly or Nick Martin for center.
3) One of a few top guards, particularly if the centers aren't there.
4) A TE that creates mismatches due to height or speed.
5) Increasing depth at RB and/or WR.
6) A strong safety that tackles well.
7) Better depth at ILB.
8) A second D-lineman.

But the exact order is fluid based on which positions are disappearing. Sometimes I pick a player in the 3rd because he's the one good guy at that position then take a guy in the 4th I really think is a better player but there were alternative options if he fell off the board.

All I know for sure is that the Texans will prioritize entirely differently than I would.
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