Official 2016 NFL Draft - Round 4-7 Thread

[Blitzwood]

I really like the Reader pick, unlike some, I felt he was a force for Clemson in the Championship game and Alabama had a hard time running at him. Mike mayock also just said "when he's in shape, he's a force to be reckoned with, had a real good Senior Bowl".

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Texans finish drafting first, as in other teams still have picks to make.

Overall, picks are reasonable to me. Time will tell.

Maybe some interesting UDFA activity coming soon.

I presume the Texans can't commence that process until the entire draft for all teams has concluded ?
But this Reader pick looks like it might be a solid value for the 5th round.

[Arky]

5th round complete:

1(140) Titans Sharpe, Tajae WR 6'2" 194 Massachusetts 5.4
2(141) Panthers (From Browns) Sanchez, Zack CB 5'11" 185 Oklahoma 5.5
3(142) 49ers (From Chargers) Blair, Ronald DE 6'2" 284 Appalachian St. 5.4
4(143) Raiders (From Cowboys) Washington, DeAndre RB 5'8" 204 Texas Tech 5.1
5(144) Broncos (From Ravens) McGovern, Connor OG 6'4" 306 Missouri 5.5
6(145) 49ers Theus, John OT 6'6" 313 Georgia 5.1
7(146) Ravens (From Jaguars) Judon, Matt DE 6'3" 275 Grand Valley St. 5.2
8(147) Seahawks (From Patriots through Dolphins) Jefferson, Quinton DT 6'4" 291 Maryland 5.1
9(148) Buccaneers Benenoch, Caleb OT 6'5" 305 UCLA 5.3
10(149) Giants Perkins, Paul RB 5'10" 208 UCLA 5.6
11(150) Bears Howard, Jordan RB 6'0" 230 Indiana 6.1
12(151) Lions Dahl, Joe OG 6'4" 304 Washington St. 5.5
13(152) Redskins (From Saints) Ioannidis, Matthew DT 6'3" 299 Temple 5.5
14(153) Eagles Smallwood, Wendell RB 5'10" 208 West Virginia 5.1
15(154) Browns (From Raiders) Payton, Jordan WR 6'1" 207 UCLA 5.1
17(155) Colts Haeg, Joe OT 6'6" 304 North Dakota St. 5.2
18(156) Bills Williams, Jonathan RB 5'11" 220 Arkansas 5.4
20(157) Titans (From Broncos through Jets) Sims, LeShaun CB 6'0" 203 Southern Utah 5.5
21(158) Jets (From Redskins) Shell, Brandon OT 6'5" 324 South Carolina 5.2
22(159) Texans Dillon, K.J. S 6'0" 210 West Virginia 5.2
23(160) Vikings Brothers, Kentrell OLB 6'0" 245 Missouri 5.5
24(161) Bengals Westerman, Christian OG 6'3" 298 Arizona State 5.8
25(162) Chiefs (From Seahawks) Hogan, Kevin QB 6'3" 218 Stanford 5.1
26(163) Packers Davis, Trevor WR 6'1" 188 California 4.9
27(164) Eagles (From Steelers) Vaitai, Halapoulivaati OT 6'6" 320 TCU 5.1
28(165) Chiefs Hill, Tyreek WR 5'10" 185 West Alabama 4.8
29(166) Texans (From Patriots) Reader, D.J. NT 6'3" 327 Clemson 5.2
30(167) Cardinals Christian, Marqui SS 5'10" 196 Midwestern St. 5.2
31(168) Browns (From Panthers) Drango, Spencer OG 6'6" 315 Baylor 5.2
32(169) Lions (From Broncos) Williams, Antwione LB 6'3" 245 Georgia Southern 5.2
33(170) Cardinals (Compensatory Selection) Toner, Cole OT 6'5" 306 Harvard 5.0
34(171) Seahawks (Compensatory Selection) Collins, Alex RB 5'10" 217 Arkansas 5.5
35(172) Browns (Compensatory Selection) Higgins, Rashard WR 6'1" 196 Colorado St. 5.4
36(173) Browns (Compensatory Selection) Caldwell, Trey DB 5'9" 186 Louisiana-Monroe --
37(174) 49ers (Compensatory Selection) Cooper, Fahn OT 6'4" 303 Mississippi 5.0
38(175) Chargers (Compensatory Selection) Brown, Jatavis OLB 5'11" 227 Akron 5.5

[Roy P]

Jerell Adams goes to the Giants at #184. I am bewildered as to why he and Kenneth Dixon were such bargains.

Anyway, My Naval Academy Alum, Keenan Reynolds is going to play for Ozzie Newsome.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Maybe some interesting UDFA activity coming soon.

Just looking at who has not been drafted yet that is still on my board, as the Cowboys select Anthony Brown at #189....

CB Maurice Canady Virginia - #209
OT Kyle Murphy Stanford - #200
WR Keyarris Garrett Tulsa
LBO James Cowser
TE Ben Braunecker Harvard
WR Charone Peake Clemson - #241
S Tyvis Powell Ohio St
TE Beau Sandland Montana St - #252
WR Cody Core Mississippi - #199
WR Kolby Listenbee TCU - #192
RB Kelvin Taylor Florida - #211
LBO Dadi Nicolas Va Tech - #203
RB Tre Madden USC
CB Jonathan Jones Auburn
RB Daniel Lasco California - #237
S Jayron Kearse Clemson - #244
LBO Victor Ochi Stony Brook
RB Aaron Green TCU
TE Dan Vitale Northwestern - #197

LBO Stephen Weatherly Vanderbilt - #227
WR Jay Lee Baylor
CB Kalan Reed Southern Miss
LBI Tyler Matakevich Temple - #246
QB Dalyn Williams Dartmouth
WR Daniel Braverman W Michigan - #230
WR Paul McRoberts SE Missouri St
TE Henry Krieger Coble Iowa

- Edit Update: My UDFA list is dwindling....

[Arky]

Round 6 complete:

1(176) Broncos (From Titans through Browns) Janovich, Andy FB 6'1" 238 Nebraska 5.1
2(177) Rams (From Titans) Hemingway, Temarrick TE 6'5" 244 South Carolina St. 5.0
3(178) Chiefs (From 49ers through Cowboys) White, D.J. CB 5'11" 193 Georgia Tech 5.5
4(179) Chargers Kaser, Drew P 6'2" 212 Texas A&M 5.3
5(180) Vikings (From 49ers) Boehringer, Moritz WR 6'4" 227 5.4
6(181) Jaguars Holmes, Tyrone OLB 6'4" 250 Montana 5.1
7(182) Ravens Reynolds, Keenan RB 5'11" 205 Navy 4.9
8(183) Buccaneers Bond, Devante OLB 6'1" 235 Oklahoma 5.1
9(184) Giants Adams, Jerell TE 6'5" 247 South Carolina 5.4
10(185) Bears Houston-Carson, DeAndre FS 6'1" 201 William & Mary 5.5
11(186) Dolphins (From Vikings) Grant, Jakeem WR 5'6" 165 Texas Tech 5.3
12(187) Redskins (From Saints) Sudfeld, Nate QB 6'6" 234 Indiana 5.2
13(188) Vikings (From Eagles) Morgan, David TE 6'4" 262 Texas-San Antonio 5.1
14(189) Cowboys (From Raiders) Brown, Anthony CB 5'11" 192 Purdue 5.2
15(190) Rams Forrest, Josh ILB 6'3" 249 Kentucky 5.2
16(191) Lions Rudock, Jake QB 6'3" 207 Michigan 5.2
17(192) Bills Listenbee, Kolby WR 6'0" 197 TCU 5.4
18(193) Titans (From Falcons) Tretola, Sebastian OG 6'4" 314 Arkansas 5.4
19(194) Raiders (From Colts) James, Cory OLB 6'0" 229 Colorado St. 4.9
20(195) Falcons (From Texans through Jets) Schweitzer, Wes OG 6'5" 314 San Jose St. --
21(196) Eagles (From Dolphins through Patriots through Texans) Countess, Blake CB 5'9" 184 Auburn --
22(197) Buccaneers (From Redskins) Vitale, Dan FB 6'1" 239 Northwestern 5.0
23(198) Chargers (From Vikings) Watt, Derek FB 6'2" 236 Wisconsin 5.0
24(199) Bengals Core, Cody WR 6'3" 205 Mississippi 5.3
25(200) Packers Murphy, Kyle OT 6'6" 305 Stanford 5.2
26(201) Jaguars (From Steelers) Allen, Brandon QB 6'1" 217 Arkansas 5.4
27(202) Lions (From Seahawks) Zettel, Anthony DT 6'4" 277 Penn St. 5.2
28(203) Chiefs Nicolas, Dadi DE 6'3" 235 Virginia Tech 5.2
29(204) Dolphins (From Patriots through Bears) Lucas, Jordan SS 6'0" 201 Penn St. 5.1
30(205) Cardinals Miller, Harlan CB 6'0" 182 Southeastern Louisiana 5.5
31(206) Rams (From Bears through Panthers) Thomas, Mike WR 6'1" 200 Southern Miss 5.2
32(207) 49ers (From Broncos) Driskel, Jeff QB 6'4" 234 Louisiana Tech 5.1
33(208) Patriots (Compensatory Selection) Grugier-Hall, Kamu OLB 6'2" 215 Eastern Illinois 5.0
34(209) Ravens (Compensatory Selection) Canady, Maurice CB 6'1" 193 Virginia 5.3
35(210) Lions (Compensatory Selection) Landes, Jimmy LS 6'1" 240 Baylor 4.7
36(211) 49ers (Compensatory Selection) Taylor, Kelvin RB 5'10" 207 Florida 5.3
37(212) Cowboys (Compensatory Selection) Frazier, Kavon SS 6'0" 217 Central Michigan 5.3
38(213) 49ers (Compensatory Selection) Burbridge, Aaron WR 6'0" 206 Michigan St. 5.4
39(214) Patriots (Compensatory Selection) Roberts, Elandon ILB 6'0" 235 Houston 5.0
40(215) Seahawks (Compensatory Selection) Hunt, Joey C 6'0" 295 TCU 4.8
41(216) Cowboys (Compensatory Selection) Jackson, Darius RB 6'0" 221 Eastern Michigan 4.9
42(217) Cowboys (Compensatory Selection) Gathers, Rico TE 6'8" 275 Baylor --
43(218) Bills (Compensatory Selection) Seymour, Kevon CB 5'11" 186 USC 5.1
44(219) Broncos (Compensatory Selection) Parks, Will S 6'1" 194 Arizona 5.2
45(220) Steelers (Compensatory Selection) Feeney, Travis OLB 6'4" 230 Washington 5.3
46(221) Patriots (Compensatory Selection) Karras, Ted OG 6'3" 307 Illinois 5.1

[Roy P]

WR Keyarris Garrett Tulsa
LBO James Cowser
TE Ben Braunecker Harvard
S Tyvis Powell Ohio St
RB Tre Madden USC
CB Jonathan Jones Auburn
LBO Victor Ochi Stony Brook
RB Aaron Green TCU
WR Jay Lee Baylor
WR Paul McRoberts SE Missouri St
TE Henry Krieger Coble Iowa

[Arky]

Round 7 complete:

1(222) Titans Wallace, Aaron OLB 6'3" 240 UCLA 5.3
2(223) Dolphins (From Browns) Doughty, Brandon QB 6'3" 213 Western Kentucky 5.1
3(224) Chargers Clark, Donavon OG 6'4" 315 Michigan St. 4.8
4(225) Patriots (From Seahawks through Cowboys) Lucien, Devin WR 6'2" 195 Arizona State 4.8
5(226) Jaguars Woodard, Jonathan DE 6'6" 271 Central Arkansas --
6(227) Vikings (From Dolphins through Ravens) Weatherly, Stephen OLB 6'4" 267 Vanderbilt 5.3
7(228) Broncos (From 49ers) Dixon, Riley P 6'4" 221 Syracuse 4.8
8(229) Steelers (From Giants) Ayers, DeMarcus WR 5'9" 182 Houston 5.0
9(230) Bears Braverman, Daniel WR 5'10" 177 Western Michigan 5.4
10(231) Dolphins Duarte, Thomas TE 6'2" 231 UCLA 5.4
11(232) Redskins (From Buccaneers) Daniels, Steven ILB 5'11" 243 Boston College 5.1
12(233) Eagles Mills, Jalen FS 6'0" 191 LSU 5.3
13(234) Raiders Alexander, Vadal OG 6'5" 326 LSU 5.5
14(235) Jets (From Rams through Texans and Broncos) Edwards, Lac P 6'4" 209 Sam Houston St. 4.8
15(236) Lions Washington, Dwayne RB 6'2" 226 Washington 5.1
16(237) Saints Lasco, Daniel RB 6'0" 209 California 5.1
17(238) Falcons Fuller, Devin WR 6'0" 194 UCLA 4.9
18(239) Colts Bates, Trevor LB 6'2" 245 Maine --
19(240) Eagles (From Vikings through Bills) McCalister, Alex DE 6'6" 239 Florida 5.3
20(241) Jets Peake, Charone WR 6'2" 209 Clemson 5.8
21(242) Redskins Marshall, Keith RB 5'11" 219 Georgia 5.2
22(243) Seahawks (From Patriots through Texans) Lawler, Kenny WR 6'2" 203 California 5.4
23(244) Vikings Kearse, Jayron S 6'4" 216 Clemson 5.3
24(245) Bengals Fejedelem, Clayton S 6'1" 200 Illinois 5.1
25(246) Steelers Matakevich, Tyler OLB 6'0" 238 Temple 5.1
26(247) Seahawks Brooks, Zac RB 6'1" 200 Clemson --
27(248) Colts (From Packers) Blythe, Austin C 6'2" 291 Iowa 5.2
28(249) 49ers (From Chiefs) Iworah, Prince Charles CB 5'9" 192 Western Kentucky 5.1
29(250) Browns (From Dolphins through Patriots) Wright III, Scooby ILB 6'0" 239 Arizona 5.5
30(251) Eagles (From Cardinals) Walker, Joe ILB 6'2" 236 Oregon 5.0
31(252) Panthers Sandland, Beau TE 6'4" 253 Montana St. 5.3
32(253) Titans (From Broncos) Reed, Kalan DB -- -- Southern Miss --

[popanot]

The Irving pick is a real head scratcher for me. Not that he's a bad player, but we just drafted Miller, who I think can play some RB if need be. That along with having Hunt. I just think we had a bigger need than another RB, especially one that high.

[Roy P]

Tyler Ervin is a small gadget player. Trindon Holiday or Darren Sproles? Who knows, but he does have return ability which is something that I believe that they were looking for. Same thing with Braxton Miller. Personally, I would have rather had Kenneth Dixon as a potential player who might have to start if Lamar Miller goes down with an injury. The backup RB should have the ability to keep the same offensive philosophy of running the ball and not have to resort to Wildcat packages or bubble screens. It would also keep Miller fresh by being able to split carries. Ervin will have a specific role on Special teams and a 3rd down back coming out of the backfield for passes.

[Nconroe]

Found this info at scout.com, in 2015, Ervin rushed for 1,601 yards and 13 touchdowns, plus he caught 45 passes. His value rises when adding in his kick return ability. In 2015, Ervin had 23.9 yards per return and he had three kickoffs returned for touchdowns in his career. His final two seasons, Ervin returned punts where he had two returns for touchdowns.

His measureables in broad jump, high jump, and forty are pretty good.

Height: 5-10
Arm Length: 29 3/4"
Weight: 192 lbs.
Hands: 9 1/8"
40 yard dash: 4.41
Bench Press: 17 reps
Vertical Jump: 39 inches
Broad Jump: 130 inches
Short Shuttle: 4.34
3-Cone: 7.03

[Roy P]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profil...vin?id=2555234
I find it funny that they explained his role as Dexter McCluster and then compare him to Akeem Hunt.

[Nconroe]

I guess we will see when they play. Hope no one is injured.

[Roy P]

Tyler Ervin 5'10" 192lbs 4.41-40 39"-Vert 10'10"-Jump 4.34-Shuttle 7.03-Cone
Akeem Hunt 5'10" 183lbs 4.36-40 37"-Vert 10'2"-Jump 4.11-Shuttle 6.71-Cone
Dexter McCluster 5'9" 172lbs 4.58-40 37.5"-Vert 4.06-Shuttle

[Keith]

Originally Posted by chuck

Where did everyone go? I'm asking a serious question because I literally do not visit any other Texans boards.

The message board format is dying all over. I think it's mostly been replaced by Twitter, but also by things like Instagram and Facebook and other social media platforms, too.

I've got no official idea of the average age posting on this site and others similar to it, but I am sure back in the days of HPF it was ~mid- to late-20s 15 years ago and closer to 40 today.

We saw it coming even before the old site was pulled (had plans to change formats actually before it was abandoned). Before I started this site and even within the first year or so after I did, I considered and had offers to totally redesign into more of blog format or something different. Bottom line, I didn't want to. I like the boards. I can write posts in more than 140 characters. We can dig deeper and not just soundbyte each other ad nauseum. It just isn't what the kids do to connect anymore.

[HPF Bob]

The lack of emojis probably hurts us but I don't care.

[Nconroe]

I like this format. Perhaps need to be easier to find with the search engines and link with other Houston Texan sites somehow?😀🐸🐘🎍🏰

[Roy P]

I noticed that there is a Twitter account. But I am too verbose to use it. So I end up just retweeting things that I agree with or like.