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Old 02-04-2009, 05:58 PM
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Then why have Loadhalt on youre list?
He's 50lbs lighter than HJ, so I hope he's a little more athletic. Also, I'm considering using him at RG instead of RT. It's probably a moot point anyway, because where I have him listed is most likely much lower than when he'll be off the board.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:33 PM
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From what I saw he had real problems out in space and with speed rushers. More of a lock on and maul type that the Ravens or the Steelers would use.
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From what I saw he had real problems out in space and with speed rushers. More of a lock on and maul type that the Ravens or the Steelers would use.
I agree with jp seemed like a RT or even a guard to me, not a LT at all.
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Old 02-05-2009, 04:35 AM
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I say we draft Herman (Monster) Johnson and put him at DT. Hey if anyone can tie up 2 blockers he could. 6'7" 386. What center would want that big SOB ligned up across from him? Seriously I wonder if he could do it?
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:01 PM
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He's 50lbs lighter than HJ, so I hope he's a little more athletic. Also, I'm considering using him at RG instead of RT. It's probably a moot point anyway, because where I have him listed is most likely much lower than when he'll be off the board.

Again, let me say that the only reason I'd want Loadholt is to play RG. In a ZBS I wouldn't be asking him to pull and lead the way on sweeps. He looked pretty good at getting to the second level and would help on short yardage and goal line situations when an OL needs to move the DL back off the line of scrimmage.

Now, if somebody wants to draft him early on and put him at OT, then I'll simply move on to the next player on my draft list.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:41 PM
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I say we draft Herman (Monster) Johnson and put him at DT. Hey if anyone can tie up 2 blockers he could. 6'7" 386. What center would want that big SOB ligned up across from him? Seriously I wonder if he could do it?
Seriously though even if he just falls down he is still a 5 ft wide 5 ft tall puddle of a man, and sitting down I imagine that he has great leverage.

The Bucs used to do something like that in goal line situations, dive forward at the opponents knee level.

Imagine the possibilities.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:44 PM
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Again, let me say that the only reason I'd want Loadholt is to play RG. In a ZBS I wouldn't be asking him to pull and lead the way on sweeps. He looked pretty good at getting to the second level and would help on short yardage and goal line situations when an OL needs to move the DL back off the line of scrimmage.

Now, if somebody wants to draft him early on and put him at OT, then I'll simply move on to the next player on my draft list.
Naw, I got you RP, he would be real useful on goaline situations at RG, as a drive blocker. As we all know the problem with ZBS is around the goalline, because the OL is lighter they are not as effective inside the redzone where the opponent knows you are going to run. The biggest baby in the history of Louisana could sure help out there.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:57 PM
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Feb 8, 2009

This thing has gotten larger as I've taken a look at more players. I am somewhat hopeful, that I'll be able to thin it back down after the Combine. After some insightful discussions players are moving up and down my draft board. So, here's the latest itteration.

1 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'3" 214 4.54
2 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 4" 254 4.65
3 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 2" 246 4.62
4 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1" 325 5.15
5 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.38
6 OT Michael Oher Ole Miss 6' 5" 320 5.22
7 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 4" 260 4.73
8 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
9 CB D. J. Moore Vanderbilt 5' 10" 184 4.45
10 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
11 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 11" 208 4.48
12 CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5' 9" 190 4.45
13 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.42
14 CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio St. 6' 0" 200 4.45
15 OT Eugene Monroe Virginia 6' 5" 315 5.23
16 LB James Laurinaitis Ohio St. 6' 2" 240 4.59
17 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 4" 248 4.67
18 LB Brian Cushing USC 6' 4" 255 4.75
19 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.49
20 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195 4.36
21 WR Hakeem Nicks North Carolina 6' 1" 210 4.57
22 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260 4.82
23 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 11" 235 4.58
24 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 7" 258 4.67
25 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273 4.76
26 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 5" 265 4.68
27 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207 4.54
28 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.49
29 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305 5.20
30 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.10
31 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 3" 298 4.99
32 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 234 4.50
33 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 4.93
34 WR Derrick Williams Penn St 6' 0" 196 4.40
35 LB Clint Sintim Virginia 6' 3" 254 4.70
36 OG Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 6' 8" 338 5.30
37 QB Josh Freeman Kansas State 6' 6" 245 4.86

38 CB Coye Francies San Jose St. 6' 0" 179 4.47
39 LB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235 4.64
40 S Derek Peques Mississippi St. 5' 10" 193 4.49
41 TE Jared Cook S. Carolina 6' 5" 240 4.58
42 CB Domonique Johnson Jackson St. 6' 2" 192 4.38
43 LB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 1" 233 4.59
44 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
45 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.68
46 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195 4.49
47 LB Marcus Freeman Ohio St. 6' 1" 236 4.58
48 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 3" 295 4.94
49 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.74
50 LB Zach Follett California 6' 2" 231 4.68
51 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.12
52 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.60
53 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238 4.65
54 RB James Davis Clemson 5' 11" 207 4.48
55 CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St 6' 1" 198 4.50
56 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0" 224 4.60
57 DE Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 6' 5" 260 4.74
58 TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.86
59 DT Vance Walker Ga Tech 6' 2" 295 5.02
60 RB Arian Foster Tennessee 6' 1" 232 4.56
61 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296 5.06
62 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187 4.48
63 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297 5.14
64 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 210 4.55
65 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210 4.54
66 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.82

67 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.18
68 LB Jason Williams W. Illinois 6' 1" 236 4.59
69 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 310 5.02
70 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.49
71 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 3" 267 4.76
72 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241 4.64
73 LB Joseph Frantz Florida Atlantic 6' 2" 235 4.73
74 OG Andy Kemp Wisconsin 6' 5" 315 5.19
76 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.68
76 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.79
77 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.52
78 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 4.99
79 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270 4.79
80 RB Gartrell Johnson Colorado St. 5' 11" 222 4.67
81 RB P.J. Hill Wisconsin 5' 11" 236 4.59
82 OG Greg Isdaner W. Virginia 6' 4" 322 5.19
83 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.50
84 OG Alex Boone Ohio St. 6' 8" 330 5.27
85 WR Demetrius Byrd LSU 6' 1" 200 4.49
86 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 5.09
87 OG Robert Brewster Ball State 6' 4" 312 5.10
88 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262 4.76
89 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11" 203 4.54
90 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 5" 240 4.69
91 S Marcus McClinton Kentucky 6' 0" 208 4.50

92 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 10" 219 4.58
93 FB Quinn Johnson LSU 6' 1" 251 4.67
94 LB Kaluka Maiava USC 6' 0" 232 4.69
95 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0" 310 5.08
96 CB Londen Fryar W. Michigan 5' 11" 187 4.53
97 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269 4.78
98 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 212 4.57
99 RB Herb Donaldson W. Illinois 5' 10" 222 4.59

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Old 02-15-2009, 10:02 PM
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It has been a week and I'm wondering if I should add Chip Vaughn of Wake Forest or Michael Hamlin of Clemson. Anyway, they are not there yet. I'm also trimming the fat.

1 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'3" 214
2 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 2" 246
3 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200
4 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1" 325
5 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204
6 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 4" 254
7 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295
8 CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5' 9" 190
9 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 4" 260
10 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 11" 208
11 CB D. J. Moore Vanderbilt 5' 10" 184
12 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210
13 CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio St. 6' 0" 200
14 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 5" 265
15 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210
16 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195
17 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273
18 WR Hakeem Nicks North Carolina 6' 1" 210

19 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 11" 235
20 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 7" 258
21 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 4" 248
22 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226
23 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207
24 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295
25 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 3" 298
26 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305
27 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260
28 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314
29 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 234
30 WR Derrick Williams Penn St 6' 0" 196
31 LB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235
32 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304
33 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195
34 TE Jared Cook S. Carolina 6' 5" 240
35 S Derek Peques Mississippi St. 5' 10" 193
36 LB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 1" 233
37 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242
38 CB Domonique Johnson Jackson St. 6' 2" 192
39 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 3" 295
40 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243
41 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236
42 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238
43 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307

44 LB Zach Follett California 6' 2" 231
45 DE Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 6' 5" 260
46 RB James Davis Clemson 5' 11" 207
47 TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257
48 DT Vance Walker Ga Tech 6' 2" 295
49 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0" 224
50 CB Keenan Lewis Oregon St 6' 1" 198
51 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296
52 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215
53 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297
54 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 3" 267
55 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187
56 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190
57 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210
58 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306
59 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314
60 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241
61 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243
62 OG Andy Kemp Wisconsin 6' 5" 315
63 LB Frantz Joseph Florida Atlantic 6' 2" 235
64 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 310
65 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210
66 RB P.J. Hill Wisconsin 5' 11" 236
67 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270
68 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223
69 OG Greg Isdaner W. Virginia 6' 4" 322

70 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262
71 OG Robert Brewster Ball State 6' 4" 312
72 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269
73 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199
74 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 5" 240
75 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300
76 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 212
77 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11" 203
78 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 10" 219
79 S Marcus McClinton Kentucky 6' 0" 208
80 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0" 310
81 RB Herb Donaldson W. Illinois 5' 10" 222
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Old 02-24-2009, 05:55 PM
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It has been a week and now I've seen some official numbers from the Combine. Some guys have been added and some have been dropped. Others have been moved up or down my board. So, here's where I am on the 24th. If I get more information from Pro-Days etc. there is still time for improvement. Not every 40 time is official, and many are simply best guesses. Those with DNP obviously did not run. I'm guessing a 4.54 for Crabtree when healthy.

1st Rounders
1 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 1 3/4" 254 4.56
2 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 4" 254 4.73
3 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.38
4 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'3" 214 4.54
5 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1 1/2" 337 5.13
6 LB Clay Matthews USC 6 '3" 240 4.67
7 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.49
8 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 3" 263 4.70
9 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
10 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.51
11 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 10 5/8" 217 4.61
12 CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5' 9" 190 4.45

2nd Rounders
13 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 2 3/8" 266 4.64
14 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195 4.41
15 CB D. J. Moore Vanderbilt 5' 10" 184 4.45
16 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
17 WR Hakeem Nicks North Carolina 6' 1" 210 4.57
18 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273 4.80
19 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 4 1/4" 263 4.84
20 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 4" 249 4.78
21 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207 4.54
22 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260 4.82
23 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 3" 298 4.89
24 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.49
25 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
26 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 6 7/8" 266 4.75
27 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305 5.20
28 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.10
29 TE Jared Cook S. Carolina 6' 5" 240 4.50
30 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0 1/8" 224 4.49

3rd Rounders
31 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 10.5" 227 4.65
32 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 231 4.62
33 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 5.01
34 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297 5.14
35 LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss 6' 2" 231 4.61
36 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195 4.49
37 S Derek Peques Mississippi St. 5' 10" 193 4.49
38 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187 4.40
39 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238 4.56
40 LB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235 4.64
41 RB Ian Johnson Boise State 5' 11" 212 4.46

4th Rounders
42 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11 1/8" 208 4.47
43 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 2 5/8" 298 5.07
44 LB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 0 3/8" 242 4.70
45 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210 4.45
46 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 DNP
47 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.12
48 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.50
49 S Chris Clemons Clemson 6' 0" 208 4.41
50 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296 4.99
51 DT Vance Walker Ga Tech 6' 2" 295 5.02
52 RB James Davis Clemson 5' 11" 207 4.48
53 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.87
54 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.66
55 RB Glen Coffee Alabama 6' 0" 209 4.58
56 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 DNP

5th Rounders
57 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 219 4.46
58 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 4 1/2" 251 4.77
59 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.24
60 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270 4.79
61 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.77
62 TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.98
63 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.73

6th Rounders
64 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262 4.84
65 OG Andy Kemp Wisconsin 6' 5" 315 5.19
66 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241 4.84
67 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.84
68 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 4.99
69 S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 6' 1" 221 4.51
70 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 310 5.02
71 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.52
72 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.50
73 OG Robert Brewster Ball State 6' 4" 312 5.10
74 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269 4.78

7th Rounders
75 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.01
76 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.52
77 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 212 4.59
78 DT Terrence Knighton Temple 6' 3" 321 5.18
79 RB P.J. Hill Wisconsin 5' 11" 236 DNP
80 RB Herb Donaldson W. Illinois 5' 10" 222 4.59
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:58 PM
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Glad to see I am not the only one who likes D Brown in the 1st.

Wouldn't you love to have about 3 or 4 picks in the 2nd.

And you are giving McGee a 4th round grade? Wow!

So are looking for Matthews at 15 or do you trade down?
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Ok, the DraftTek folk haven't updated their mock for the Combine movers, but I just couldn't wait. Using my new board, this is what I did....

1. OLB/DE Clay Matthews. I'd like to be able to trade down, but I really like what I see here and if I can't get good return, I'll just take him at #15.

2. RB Donald Brown. I doubt that I'll be able to get him after the post-combine update is finished. In reality, I'll probably be getting my 3rd round pick here.

3. DE Lawrence Sidbury Jr. This guy is going to shoot up boards like Matthews will. All the talk about 3-4 hybrids and teams that are switching is going to make the supply dry up in a hurry. The focus has been on Maybin, English, and Cushing, but that will be changing here shortly.

4. OC AQ Shipley. Well, he's not Eric Wood or Alex Mack, but he's got some tools to work with. I'm not sure if he can play the OG position, but he should be better than Studdard.

5. FS CJ Spillman. I sort of waffled back and forth between he and Chris Clemons since Clemons ran a better 40 yard dash. However, I went with instincts over measurables on this one and 4.5 is not horrible at FS.

6. QB Stephen McGee. The main reason that I like this kid is because of his ability to throw accurately on the run with good arm strength. We may have a couple of years to teach him the other stuff. Think Kevin Kolb without giving up a 2nd round pick.

7. DE Derek Walker. I realize that I drafted Sidbury, but he's going to wear down if I don't rotate him. Walker is probably better on short yardage and goal line defense, but he can also give a little something in the pass rush too. He is my "poor man's" Robert Ayers.

I'm intriqued by NT Terrance Knighton of Temple. I watched him the Texas vs. the Nation game. At 6'3" 321lbs, he ran a 5.16 (comparable to BJ Raji). Of course there's a reason he's a UDFA and not a top 1st round pick.
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:36 AM
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Don't forget the extra 4th round pick from Minn. It's supposed to be a done deal.
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Don't forget the extra 4th round pick from Minn. It's supposed to be a done deal.
Well, I'm still shuffling my deck and discarding players. I'm down to my 70 players. Also, I want to see how the Combine effects the drafttek Mock. They should have a new one up sometime today (Wednesday). Then I'll put in the extra Sage pick and maybe even a potential Jacoby Jones pick (I'll guess 5th round).
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I don't think he is on your list, but what do you think about Mike Wallace. I like him in the late rounds, especially if they get rid of JJ. He did well in the Senior Bowl and ran really fast at the combine. Watching him run the gauntlet, it seemed his head barely moved vertically at all.
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I don't think he is on your list, but what do you think about Mike Wallace. I like him in the late rounds, especially if they get rid of JJ. He did well in the Senior Bowl and ran really fast at the combine. Watching him run the gauntlet, it seemed his head barely moved vertically at all.
I think Wallace is similar to Mike Thomas in terms of atheticism. Thomas however has better WR skills - getting separation off the line, route running, hands, etc. I think Wallace is similar to Jerome Mathis - he's just fast.
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You have Thomas in with your 3rd rounders. Wallace could last until the 6th or 7th round. I think at this point, Draftek has him undrafted, although that surely will change after the combine. Thomas is not quite 5'8" while Wallace is over 6'. If you don't pick up Thomas early, I think Wallace could be a good value late.
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You have Thomas in with your 3rd rounders. Wallace could last until the 6th or 7th round.
If I were to guess, Wallace gets picked in the 4th or 5th because of his 40 time. I'm also trying to make my list as stream-lined as possible. There's several players who may be "good value" in the 6th or 7th rounds. I think I have enough of those on my list to not be adding to it. Some times, less is more.
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There are guys I like better in the 4th and 5th, and if Jacoby doesn't leave, I would rather not draft a wr.
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I'm now down to 70 players!

Here they are for your amusement.

1 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 1 3/4" 254 4.56
2 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 1 1/2" 256 4.73
3 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.40
4 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'1" 214 4.54
5 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1 1/2" 337 5.13
6 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 3" 263 4.70
7 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.49
8 LB Clay Matthews USC 6 '3 1/8" 240 4.67
9 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
10 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.51
11 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 10 5/8" 217 4.61

12 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 2 3/8" 266 4.64
13 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195 4.41
14 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
15 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 2 7/8" 300 4.89
16 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3 1/8" 272 4.80
17 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 3 3/4" 249 4.78
18 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 4 1/4" 263 4.84
19 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207 4.53
20 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260 4.82
21 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 6 7/8" 266 4.75
22 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.53
23 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305 5.24
24 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
25 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.12
26 TE Jared Cook S. Carolina 6' 5" 240 4.50


27 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0 1/8" 224 4.49
28 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 10.5" 227 4.65
29 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 5.01
30 LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss 6' 2" 231 4.61
31 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195 4.49
32 RB Ian Johnson Boise State 5' 11" 212 4.46
33 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 231 4.62
34 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238 4.56
35 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187 4.40

36 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11 1/8" 208 4.47
37 LB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 0 3/8" 242 4.70
38 S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 6' 1" 221 4.51
39 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210 4.45
40 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297 5.14
41 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 DNP
42 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.18
43 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.50
44 S Chris Clemons Clemson 6' 0" 208 4.41
45 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296 4.99
46 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 2 5/8" 298 5.07
47 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.87
48 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.66
49 RB Glen Coffee Alabama 6' 0" 209 4.58
50 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 219 4.46
51 DT Vance Walker Ga Tech 6' 2" 295 5.26


52 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270 4.79
53 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.52
54 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.50
55 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.77
56 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 4 1/2" 251 4.77
57 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 DNP

58 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.24
59 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.74
60 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 310 5.02
61 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 4.99
62 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.52
63 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.01
64 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.84
65 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262 4.84
66 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241
4.84

67 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269 4.78
68 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 212 4.59
69 DT Terrence Knighton Temple 6' 3" 321 5.18
70 RB Herb Donaldson W. Illinois 5' 10" 222 4.59
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Originally Posted by chuck
I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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