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Old 03-28-2010, 05:23 PM
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I can easily agree with that statement. I just can't imagine this team having much luck without AJ and it would be nice to have someone waiting in line and I don't think we really do right now.
We wouldn't have much luck without Andre. The same could be said about most teams losing their best player. If at some point, Dre becomes injured or is a Free Agent that we can no longer keep, then we will probably draft a WR in the first round. Right now, we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Dre stays healthy and happy. The team wouldn't have much luck if Ryans or Schaub went down either, but we can't really draft their counterparts either.
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:11 PM
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Default The top 48 Athletes at the Combine

-------------------------------Explosion-----Quickness----Athleticism
1 LB Sean Weatherspoon 84.25 12.97 6.50
2 RB Ben Tate 76.83 12.52 6.14
3 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 76.08 12.7 5.99
4 WR Scott Long 71.75 12.03 5.96
5 LB Jamar Chaney 75.33 12.73 5.92
6 CFS *Eric Berry 72.83 12.57 5.79
7 RB Montario Hardesty 72.33 12.52 5.78
8 DT Ndamukong Suh 76.25 13.34 5.72
9 DT Geno Atkins 76.75 13.44 5.71
10 RB Toby Gerhart 69.83 12.74 5.48
11 RB Lonyae Miller 72.5 13.29 5.46
12 LB Pat Angerer 70.16 12.96 5.41
13 DT Mike Neal 73.42 13.66 5.37
14 LB Simoni Lawrence 71.25 13.28 5.37
15 DT Linval Joseph 77.25 14.58 5.30
16 CSS Myron Rolle 67.25 12.7 5.30
17 CFS Brian Jackson 65.5 12.54 5.22
18 DT Lamarr Houston 73 14 5.21
19 CB Crezdon Butler 66.58 12.85 5.18
20 CB Kevin Thomas 64 12.52 5.11
21 DE Lindsey Witten 69.12 13.53 5.11
22 OL Eric Olsen 72.25 14.19 5.09
23 CB Devin McCourty 62.5 12.3 5.08
24 RB Ryan Matthews 65.08 12.82 5.08
25 CB Brandon Ghee 62.58 12.34 5.07
26 DT Torrell Troup 71.12 14.09 5.05
27 CB A.J. Jefferson 61.5 12.28 5.01
28 DT Tyson Alualu 66.2 13.25 5.00
29 OL Joe Hawley 69.75 14.01 4.98
30 CB *Joe Haden 63.42 12.81 4.95
31 LB Kavell Conner 66.66 13.51 4.93
32 OL Shelley Smith 69.25 14.12 4.90
33 OL Shawn Lauvao 67.92 13.87 4.90
34 DT Cam Thomas 68.5 14.19 4.83
35 RB James Starks 60.92 12.67 4.81
36 CB Kareem Jackson 60.32 12.59 4.79
37 OL Trent Williams 66.92 13.97 4.79
38 CFS Major Wright 61.42 12.84 4.78
39 LB Kam Chancellor 63.75 13.37 4.77
40 OL Rodger Saffold 65.92 13.89 4.75
41 CB David Pender 61.3 12.92 4.74
42 DT *Gerald McCoy 63 13.48 4.67
43 DT Dan Williams 67 14.5 4.62
44 DE George Selvie 63.58 13.78 4.61
45 DE Carlos Dunlap 61.75 13.43 4.60
46 CB Trevard Lindley 57.25 12.63 4.53
47 DT Earl Mitchell 62.42 13.79 4.53
48 LB AJ Edds 58.75 13.07 4.50

Explosion = Reps + Vert + Broad Jump
Quickness = 10yard + Shuttle + Cone
Athleticism = Explosion/Quickness
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Old 04-02-2010, 10:17 PM
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1 LB Sean Weatherspoon 84.25 12.97 6.50
How do you pass him up at 20? A super group of LBs, Cushing Ryans Weatherspoon, makes so much sense to me....
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:13 PM
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1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
3 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
4 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
5 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
7 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 4.43 USC
8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
10 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
11 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
12 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
13 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama
14 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
17 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
18 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
19 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
20 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
21 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
22 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
24 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
25 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
26 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
27 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
28 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
29 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
30 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
31 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
32 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
33 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
35 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
37 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
38 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
39 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
40 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
42 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
43 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
44 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
45 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
46 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
47 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
48 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
49 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
50 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
51 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.63 Oklahoma
52 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
53 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St
54 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
55 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242 4.63 Clemson
56 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
57 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
58 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
59 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
60 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
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Old 04-04-2010, 06:12 PM
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We wouldn't have much luck without Andre. The same could be said about most teams losing their best player. If at some point, Dre becomes injured or is a Free Agent that we can no longer keep, then we will probably draft a WR in the first round. Right now, we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Dre stays healthy and happy. The team wouldn't have much luck if Ryans or Schaub went down either, but we can't really draft their counterparts either.
We are going to have trouble ever becoming a championship team if we don't develop players before the need actually arises. There is pretty good evidence already that Dre isn't all that happy and wants to play for a team that has a chance at a ring. I can't blame him really.

I look at the NE Patriots. They can lose important players and have someone waiting in the wings to come forward. Welker goes down and Edelman fills in well. Their QB hits the dirt and Cassel (sp?) comes to the rescue. They have been able to acquire first round choices by trading off good players and having just as good players waiting to take their place. Having a 1.A and 1.B WR on the team is required as far as I am concerned until he is used or traded. AD might still be tradable or keep him another year.
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Old 04-04-2010, 11:35 PM
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Having a 1.A and 1.B WR on the team is required as far as I am concerned until he is used or traded. AD might still be tradable or keep him another year.
Okay, here is the guy. Look for #88.

Stephen Williams WR Toledo 6-5 210 4.50 15 36 1/2 2.52 1.48 10'05" 4.11 6.81

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMxI_i61xE
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:05 AM
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As usual, you trumped me. Yes, he looks very good, length, speed, and athleticism. Not sure about his routes, but his hands look decent. NFL Draft Scout lists him at number 40 out of 400+ receivers. Project him into the 7th round or UFA. I doubt he would ever be a #1 receiver but you never know. Plaxico Burress is about that size and he did pretty well until his head exploded.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:48 AM
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1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
4 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
7 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
8 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.

9 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
10 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
11 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
13 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
14 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
17 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas

18 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
19 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
20 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
21 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
22 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
25 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
26 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
27 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor

28 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
29 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
30 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
31 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
32 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
33 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Mississippi St
34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
35 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo

37 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
38 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
39 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
40 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
42 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
43 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
44 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
45 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
46 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
47 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
48 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.60 Oklahoma
49 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
50 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
51 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
52 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
53 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
54 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

55 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
56 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
57 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
58 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
59 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
60 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
61 CB Joshua Moore 5'11" 188 4.50 Kansas St
62 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV

63 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
64 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
65 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
66 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
67 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
68 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
69 s Kyle McCarthy 6'0" 205 4.58 Notre Dame
70 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:18 PM
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The board is down to 60. As much as I like LeFevour and Skelton, I've decided to not draft a QB this year. I've also decided to add C.J. Spiller since there are conversations out there that he could fall to #20. He's not was we need, but he'd be the BPA most likely if he makes it to me. So, without further ado.....

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
4 RB C.J. Spiller 5'11" 196 4.27 Clemson
5 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
6 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
7 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
9 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.

10 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
11 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
13 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
14 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
17 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 South Florida
18 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
19 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
20 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
21 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech

22 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
23 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
25 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
26 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
27 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Miss St
28 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
29 DT Torrell Troup 6'3" 314 5.18 Central Florida

30 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
31 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
32 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
33 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
34 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
35 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
36 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
37 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
38 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
39 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
40 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

41 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
42 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
43 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
44 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
45 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
46 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
47 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
48 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota

49 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
50 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
51 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
52 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
53 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
54 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
55 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
56 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville

57 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
58 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
59 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
60 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:30 PM
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Just found some video of a few of my favorite players in this draft. Linval Joseph is a Big Body that can rotate with S. Cody at the NT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTup...eature=related

Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY

Alterraun Verner and Crezdon Butler as CB on the 3rd day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZbjLR1l_c&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhQucP7DjYE
DANIEL TE'O-NESHEIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmv0jJqpYMg

I almost forgot my FS Robert Johnson...

http://www.youtube.com/user/PremierS.../3/j_ourKzKOnY
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:45 PM
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Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY
NFLDraftScout.com has some vids up on CBSSports.com too.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...gs/TSX/2010_RB

I'll admit I'm a bit late to the party, but Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.

I'll also add that I like Montario Hardesty in this area as well. Concerned about his injury history a little, but he seemed to put it together last year. Regardless, having these two available in the 2nd round ought to make it easier to not force a pick in the first I hope.
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:27 PM
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Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.

Regardless, having these two available in the 2nd round ought to make it easier to not force a pick in the first I hope.
I like McCourty & Tate more than I like Mathews & Ghee. Just sayin'....
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:51 AM
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I like McCourty & Tate more than I like Mathews & Ghee. Just sayin'....
Ok, maybe I'll rethink that line of thinking.....If there were just a CB in the first round that I could really get behind and say, "that's the guy we need!" I'm just afraid we are going to draft the next Carlos Rogers or Aaron Ross instead of the next 5-Time Pro-Bowler.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:48 PM
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There are two players that I'd like to compare before the draft....I'll call them M and T.

M - 55 Tackles, 18.5 Tackles For Loss, 12.5 Sacks.
T - 65 Tackles, 14 Tackles For Loss, 11 Sacks.

M - 6' 3", 266lbs, 4.77 - 40 yard dash, 1.60 - 10 yard split
T - 6' 3.5", 267lbs, 4.72 - 40 yard dash, 1.61 - 10 yard split

M - His career totals include 29.5 tackles-for-loss, 19.5 sacks, six fumbles recovered and five pass break-ups.
T - 194 tackles, 47 tackles for loss and as the school's all-time leader with 30 career sacks.

Derrick Morgan is considered to be a top 10 pick.
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim is considered to be a 4th or 5th round pick.

I'm just trying to understand the value here. I will be following these two players for the next 3 years to see which one produces more 'bang for the buck' at the next level. I find it interesting that USC players get graded "evenly" while the other Pac-10 schools get downgraded when compared to East Coast counterparts. Gerhart is getting some bias against him and he played AGAINST USC defenses and broke tackles against Clay Mathews and Brian Cushing. There is the C.J. Spiller vs. Jahvid Best arguments too so, I'm hopeful that it's East vs. West bias and not racism. Maybe I should put Jahvid on my draftboard, since I've added Spiller here recently.

Because Best has a history of concussions, I'd put him after Mathews and above Patrick Robinson.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:07 PM
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With only the first round happening, I'm just going to list my top 20. I'll readjust the draftboard after round one is in the books. I've got some late-comers on the board and some guys I kicked off are back on.

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
4 RB C.J. Spiller 5'11" 196 4.27 Clemson
5 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
6 CB Joe Haden 5'11" 190 4.42 Florida
7 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
8 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
9 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
10 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama
11 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
12 RB Jahvid Best 5'10" 199 4.34 California
13 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
14 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
15 DT Jared Odrick 6'4" 305 4.98 Penn St
16 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
17 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
18 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
19 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
20 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
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21 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
22 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
23 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
24 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
25 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
26 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
27 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
28 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
29 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
30 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
31 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina

32 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
33 DT Torrell Troup 6'3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
34 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Miss St
35 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
36 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
37 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
38 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
39 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
40 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
41 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

42 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
43 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
44 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.72 Georgia
45 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
46 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
47 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
48 FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah

49 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
50 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
52 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
53 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.67 Michigan
54 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
55 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
56 S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 4.70 Florida St
57 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
58 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
59 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
60 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois

61 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
61 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182 4.62 California
62 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
63 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
64 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
65 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
66 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
67 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
68 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
69 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
70 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St
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Default Round 2

At #20 the Texans selected:

20 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama


These are my guys for the 2nd round......

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
4 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
5 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
6 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
7 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
8 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
9 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
10 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
11 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
12 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
13 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
14 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
15 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
16 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
17 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
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Default Going into the 4th round with some picks.

I know we drafted Earl Mitchell, but I still want Geno Atkins. Cam Thomas could replace Frank Okam. Plenty of DBs and some LBs.

27 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
28 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
31 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
32 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
36 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
42 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
43 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
45 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
46 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
47 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
48 FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
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I'll admit I'm a bit late to the party, but Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.
Like Babe Ruth calling his shot...

I'm excited to see Slaton, Tate, and Foster in the backfield. If Slaton can return to 2008 form and Foster improves on how he finished, look out...
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Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY
We traded down from #50 got an extra pick and still got my guy. Yeah, I'm stoked.
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