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Bleacher Report: Some new names and new priorities at the top. If you take a Conklin, he can play LT or RT, OTs then can be Brown, Conklin. Newton can move to OG with Allen, and Su'a-Filo move to OC. It's a thought. If Brown is not ready at the start of the season they have coverage.
22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 52: R2P21 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 85: R3P22 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA 120: R4P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 167: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH 196: R6P20 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE
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Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.
30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR 62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS 114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU 224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON I made some moves: TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 3 PICK TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 ROUND: 7 PICK: 2 TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 30 ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 TRADE PARTNER: TENNESSEE TITANS SENT: ROUND: 4 PICK: 21 ROUND: 5 PICK: 20 TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 15 The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.
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I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.
22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 77: R3P14 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 79: R3P16 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE 85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE 120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 160: R5P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA 167: R5P27 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS 196: R6P20 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA TRADE PARTNER: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 14 ROUND: 3 PICK: 16 Last edited by HPF Bob; 03-22-2016 at 09:14 PM. |
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BTW those are Lance Zeirlien's breakdowns on the players.
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By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.
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I cannot say how many mocks I have done where a solid QB is available and I have walked right past him to a position of higher need. If you want to a flyer on a QB late in the draft, a fifth or later, then I am good with that. I love Adams from Oregon as a UDFA, to give you a camp arm. The biggest issue I see is reps. The team is going to want to get OS as many reps as possible in OTAs and camp, and they want to hold on to Hoyer to possibly trade to a team that gets hit with an injury for some kind of value. And you have to get him reps, along with Savage. He needs reps. So how can you develop a young guy with no reps. Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.
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I think keeping Hoyer is a good strategy. We could do far worse at backup QB and it's not like he's all that expensive. I think he'd be good for Os to have around. If they don't feel Savage has a future, then by all means draft a guy like Adams, Hogan or Driskell, etc. late in the draft. I'd rather a have Hoyer and a rookie prospect than hang onto Savage who has zero experience to help out and likely has no starting future.
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Using the FanSpeak list.
22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH 70: R3P7 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME 94: R3P31 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 120: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE 130: R4P31 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 160: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU 167: R5P27 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA 183: R6P7 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS 196: R6P20 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 31 ROUND: 4 PICK: 31 TRADE PARTNER: BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT: FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK TEXANS RECEIVED: ROUND: 3 PICK: 7 ROUND: 6 PICK: 7 Got additional picks with a trade down and a future pick. This is a solid list in the 2nd 3rd 4th rounds. Got my Brown insurance, future OT in Conklin, which gives me more versatility along the line, in that same vain I took Martin, and guy that can play OG or OC. In the 2nd and 4th I took two DTs that can play either NT or 3-4 DE. Both are solid against the run. And showed well at the Senior Bowl in one on ones. Grabbed both RBs from Arkansas, why not keep them pushing each other, one is a scat back, choppy runner and one is more of a power back. (Maybe time for Blue to move on). If all Cyrus Jones did on this team was return punts than he would be a steal, but he also is money covering the slot receiver. Listenbee is a speedster on the outside. And Cayleb Jones is big bodied guy with solid hands. Also has some baggage in his distant past. Added size and speed to the roster, added guys that can make plays, added some meanness to the OL. Not a bad draft IMO.
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If they intend to keep Hoyer, then they won't draft a QB but I would rather release or trade him and use the cap savings to bring back Jared Crick.
As far as Hackenberg, I'm simply responding to the mutual admiration O'Brien and Hackenberg have for each other and the belief he will flourish here better than anywhere else. You don't want someone who directly competes against Ossie this year but someone who can step in if he gets injured or falters. I don't see last year's starter as being the guy for that. |
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I don't believe Hoyer is on the roster by the start of OTAs. But the league is so QB starved that trying to get a low draft pick for him is smart right now.
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I can't remember a year where the mocks were so all over the place with the top five or six quarterbacks. You guys have seen all the mocks, too, and many of you have played with the various lists for your own mocks. It's amazing how one perfectly credible mock will have QB X at 2 overall and another perfectly credible mock will have him at 12 or 22 or whatever. I really thought that by now we'd start to get some clarity and consensus among the mocks but we haven't. Hell, no one even knows what Tennessee's going to do. For me it's far more enjoyable than usual. |
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Here's an Easter mock which includes a trade down with Carolina. This used the "With The First Pick" board. Still, a bit disappointed with what it produced.
30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 52: R2P21 DE DEFOREST BUCKNER OREGON 85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE 94: R3P31 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU 120: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA 130: R4P31 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY 160: R5P20 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE 167: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA 169: R5P29 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE 196: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD TRADE PARTNER: CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 30 ROUND: 3 PICK: 31 ROUND: 4 PICK: 31 ROUND: 5 PICK: 29 |
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52 WR Sterling Shepard 85 S Sean Davis 120 CB Cyrus Jones 160 WR Malcolm Mitchell 167 OLB Yannick Ngakoue 196 WR Keyarris Garrett I think that the "Composite" board is most realistic. I find it useless to be able to draft Derrick Henry in the3rd round.
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Every Tuesday means a new Fanspeak board and some very generous tradedowns led to a pretty sweet haul:
32: R2P1 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 41: R2P10 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR 85: R3P22 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE 92: R3P29 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS 119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 128: R4P30 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE 159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH 166: R5P27 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 167: R5P28 DE ANTHONY ZETTEL PENN STATE 195: R6P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY TRADE PARTNER: ARIZONA CARDINALS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 ROUND: 3 PICK: 29 ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 ROUND: 5 PICK: 28 TRADE PARTNER: CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 1 ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 TRADE PARTNER: CHICAGO BEARS SENT: ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 ROUND: 4 PICK: 1 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 10 |
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3/30 Optimum Scouting Board
Never heard of Optimum Scouting and I have to scratch my head at some of their rankings but, with a couple of trade downs, I managed a nice group:
33: R2P2 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA 64: R3P1 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE 85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD 113: R4P15 RB DEVONTAE BOOKER UTAH 119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 121: R4P23 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 159: R5P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH 160: R5P21 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE 166: R5P27 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON 195: R6P20 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU TRADE PARTNER: MINNESOTA VIKINGS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 23 ROUND: 4 PICK: 23 ROUND: 5 PICK: 21 TRADE PARTNER: TENNESSEE TITANS SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 23 RECEIVED: ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 ROUND: 3 PICK: 1 ROUND: 4 PICK: 15 |
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I don't think Jonathan Bullard lasts until the 4th round either.
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