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Old 01-17-2018, 09:35 PM
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My Current Draft Board for the upcoming NFL Draft:
1 OLB Bradley Chubb NC State
2 OT Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame
3 RB Saquon Barkley Penn State
4 QB Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St
5 FS Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama
6 QB Lamar Jackson Louisville
7 SS Derwin James Florida State
8 OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame
9 OLB Sam Hubbard Ohio State
10 CB Joshua Jackson Iowa
11 RB Derrius Guice LSU
12 QB Sam Darnold USC
13 OT Connor Williams Texas
14 OLB Clelin Ferrell Clemson
15 CB Denzel Ward Ohio State
16 ILB Roquan Smith Georgia
17 RB Bryce Love Stanford
18 CB Isaiah Oliver Colorado
19 OLB Dorance Armstrong Kansas
20 ILB Malik Jefferson Texas
21 NT Christian Wilkins Clemson
22 TE Mark Andrews Oklahoma
23 OLB Harold Landry Boston College
24 OC Billy Price Ohio State
25 RB Royce Freeman Oregon
26 CB Kameron Kelly San Diego St
27 OLB Arden Key LSU
28 WR Courtland Sutton SMU
29 WR Calvin Ridley Alabama
30 WR James Washington Oklahoma St
31 DE Taven Bryan Florida
32 WR Marcell Ateman Ateman
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:41 AM
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Bryce Love is going back to Stanford which is great news for us because he was my favorite player during the bowl season. What I saw was a kid who not only reads his blocks as he bursts through the line but also as he's charging upfield. Defenders don't get good licks on him because he has outstanding vision and anticipation. Since the Texans have no high draft picks this year, I'm glad to know he's not coming out until next season. He'd pair nicely with Foreman after Lamar Miller has moved on.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:18 PM
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I shall have to remove him from the board. I thought that he had declared.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:22 PM
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I need to add QB Kurt Benkurt, OT Brian O'Neill, and CB Mike Hughes from UCF.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:08 AM
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Just wondering where 3rd round starts on your board?
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:54 AM
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I don't know who's going to be available in the 3rd round at this moment. For all I know, my top 32 could all be taken in the 1st round. I am going to expand the list after the Shrine and Senior Bowl. Then really start to formulate the board after the Combine. I am not going to be surprised if I have players ranked #52-#53-#54 & have #54 go in the 2nd, #53 in the 3rd & #52 last until the 5th round. One man's trash is another GM's treasure.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:07 AM
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Just wondering where 3rd round starts on your board?
I don' think he works it that way.
Actually I never quite figured out what his system is but for example he might have a 3rd or 4h round prospect on his list right next to the #2 overall pick in the Draft.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:09 PM
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He ranks players based on some amalgam of how much value they would be to the Texans and the Colts. Therefore, players at need positions go higher and players at positions the Texans and Colts have well-stocked, will be pushed lower. It's designed so that when one or the other is on the clock, he can check his list and grab the next available player.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:01 PM
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He ranks players based on some amalgam of how much value they would be to the Texans and the Colts. Therefore, players at need positions go higher and players at positions the Texans and Colts have well-stocked, will be pushed lower. It's designed so that when one or the other is on the clock, he can check his list and grab the next available player.
That's a pretty good assessment, Bob. I look at the draft as braided ropes. At the top of the draft, there is a lot of consensus as to who the top 5-10 players are going to be. Then the ropes begin to unravel and go into all sorts of unexpected directions. For example, the Buccaneers will trade up in the 2nd round and draft a Kicker. Or the Raiders will draft some CB nobody else has seen who runs a 4.32. So, I attempt to trust my eyes, know my needs, and game plan for who might be available the next time I get to select. The draft is an inexact science. One guru will fall in love with Christian Ponder, Kevin White, Cam Robinson, or Vernon Ghoulston and then others will follow the hype. Then there are players who I like that get drafted late, like Dak Prescott or David Johnson and I wonder why I didn't put them higher based on successful college careers and measurables. Would I look smarter taking them in the 2nd round, or do I look misguided if I could have drafted them in the 3rd? So, it's a mixture of attempting to maximize each round by guessing who is being overdrafted.
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Old 01-24-2018, 01:04 AM
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1 OLB Bradley Chubb NC State 6'4" 275
2 FS Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama 6'1" 201
3 RB Saquon Barkley Penn State 5'11" 225
4 RB Derrius Guice LSU 5'11" 220
5 ILB Roquan Smith Georgia 6'1" 225
6 ILB Tremaine Edmunds Va Tech 6'5" 235
7 OG Quenton Nelson Notre Dame 6'5" 329
8 CB Isaiah Oliver Colorado 6'1" 190
9 SS Derwin James Florida State 6'3" 211
10 WR Courtland Sutton SMU 6'4" 215
11 CB Joshua Jackson Iowa 6'1" 195
12 OT Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame 6'7" 310
13 NT Christian Wilkins Clemson 6'4" 315
14 QB Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St 6'5" 235
15 QB Lamar Jackson Louisville 6'3" 209
16 QB Sam Darnold USC 6'4" 222
17 CB Denzel Ward Ohio State 5'10" 191
18 WR Christian Kirk Texas A&M 5'11" 205
19 OT Brian O'Neil Pittsburgh 6'5" 298
20 OC Billy Price Ohio State 6'4" 312
21 RB Sony Michel Georgia 5'11" 225
22 OT Connor Williams Texas 6'6" 290
23 RB Royce Freeman Oregon 5'11" 230
24 TE Mark Andrews Oklahoma 6'5" 250
25 OLB Sam Hubbard Ohio State 6'5" 265
26 OLB Harold Landry Boston College 6'3" 250
27 OLB Marcus Davenport San Antonio 6'7" 250
28 OLB Dorance Armstrong Kansas 6'4" 246
29 CB Tarvarus McFadden Florida State 6'2" 198
30 WR James Washington Oklahoma St 6'0" 200
31 WR Calvin Ridley Alabama 6'1" 190
32 DE Harrison Phillips Stanford 6'4" 300
33 DE Taven Bryan Florida 6'4" 290
34 NT Vita Vea Washington 6'5" 340
35 ILB Malik Jefferson Texas 6'3" 240
36 WR Marcell Ateman Ateman 6'4" 220
37 RB Ronald Jones USC 6'1" 195
38 OG Braden Smith Auburn 6'5" 305
39 OG Isaiah Wynn Georgia 6'3" 308
40 OT Orlando Brown Oklahoma 6'8" 360
41 OT Tyler Crosby Oregon 6'5" 319
42 OC Frank Ragnow Arkansas 6'5" 315
43 OG Mason Cole Michigan 6'4" 303
44 WR Simmie Cobbs Indiana 6'3" 220
45 WR Anthony Miller Memphis 5'11" 190
46 CB Jaire Alexander Louisville 5'11" 192
47 SS Justin Reid Stanford 6'1" 204
48 CB Mike Hughes Cental Florida 5'11" 191
49 RB Nick Chubb Georgia 5'10" 230
50 OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Oklahoma 6'0" 240"
51 DE Chad Thomas Miami 6'5" 277
52 OLB Hercules Mataafa Wash St 6'2 252
53 CB Carlton Davis Auburn 6'1" 203
54 CB Levi Wallace Alabama 6'0" 185
55 ILB Uchenna Nwosu USC 6'3" 230
56 OLB Josh Sweat Florida State 6'5" 250
57 ILB Micah Kiser Virginia 6'2" 240
58 WR Michael Gallup Colorado St 6'1" 198
59 ILB Rashaan Evans Alabama
60 OG Will Hernandez UTEP 6'3" 330
61 CB Kameron Kelly San Diego St 6'2" 190
62 OLB Marquis Haynes Ole Miss 6'3" 233
63 SS Ronnie Harrison Alabama 6'3" 210
64 RB Rashaad Penny San Diego St 5'11" 220
65 WR Daurice Fountain N. Illinois 6'2 210
66 RB Damien Harris Alabama 5'11" 215
67 OT Chukwuma Okorafor W. Michigan 6'5" 330
68 SS Marcus Allen Penn State 6'2" 205
69 TE Mike Gesicki Penn State 6'6" 252
70 TE Dallas Goedert S. Dakota State 6'4" 250
71 OG Brian Allen Michigan St 6'2" 304
72 CB Tony Brown Alabama 6'0" 198
73 NT PJ Hall Sam Houston 6'0" 308
74 RB Kerryon Johnson Auburn 6'0" 210
75 WR Deon Cain Clemson 6'1" 215
76 OT Kolton Miller UCLA 6'7" 310
77 WR Tre'Quan Smith UCF 6'1" 200
78 SS DeShon Elliott Texas 6'2" 205
79 NT Bilal Nichols Delaware 6'3" 301
80 OLB Tyquan Lewis Ohio State 6'3" 276
81 OLB Trevon Young Louisville 6'3" 254
82 QB Nic Shimonek Texas Tech 6'3" 218
83 TE Troy Fumagalli Wisconsin 6'6" 248
84 QB Kurt Benkert Virginia 6'3" 214
85 ILB Josh Allen Kentucky 6'5" 235
86 OG Martez Ivey Florida 6'5" 305
87 QB Tanner Lee Nebraska 6'4" 218
88 OLB Davin Bellamy Georgia 6'5" 240
89 OLB Justin Lawler SMU 6'4" 260
90 OLB Porter Gustin USC 6'5" 260
91 CB Quenton Meeks Stanford 6'2" 200
92 CB Arrion Springs Oregon 5'11" 205
93 CB Deatrick Nichols South Florida 5'10" 189
94 OLB Lorenzo Carter Georgia 6'6" 240
95 RB Myles Gaskin Washington 5'10" 190
96 WR Antonio Callaway Florida 5'10" 193
97 OLB Joe Ostman Cental Michigan 6'2" 248
98 ILB Ulysees Gilbert Akron 6'0" 225
99 ILB Tegray Scales Indiana 6'0" 235
100 ILB Josey Jewell Iowa 6'2 230
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Old 01-24-2018, 03:06 AM
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First time I've seen Captain Kirk rated so highly. What stands out about him?
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:22 PM
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First time I've seen Captain Kirk rated so highly. What stands out about him?
Are you referring to Christian Kirk?

4.39 Forty...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DguTO5zN-0g
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:13 AM
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So, he's a speed guy. Do you think the Colts would want him with the WR corps they have?
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:52 PM
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Moncrief has been a disappointment. TY Hilton is all I have got, and he's not the perfect #1 either and my be wanting a new contract. I don't think that this class has my WR talent, so Kirk is a rarity. He has good value, not necessarily a good fit or filling a dire need like RG or RT or ILB or CB.
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:06 PM
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Sitting here formulating a game plan watching Senior Bowl practices as to what I might do for the Colts as I am massaging my draft board attempting to get a feel for who might be available when... of course this is all subject to change as we get numbers from the Combine. But as it stands right now with high picks in all 7 rounds, this is the type of plan I would implement.

#3 DE Bradley Chubb - I really hope he is there at #3. I could potentially move down to #5 or #6 so that the Broncos or Jets could move up for a QB and garner an extra 2nd round pick.

2nd Round - I need to address my OL. I am liking what I see from Isaiah Wynn, Tyrell Crosby, and Brian O'neil. I'm not sure that I can wait for one of these guys to fall to the top of the 3rd round.

3rd Round - My target is a big CB that may not run a sub 4.5 but has Press-Man skills and Ball skills. I would love to get Isaiah Oliver from Colorado. I could also target Kevin Toliver, Duke Dawson, Quenton Meeks, or Kameron Kelly.

3rd Round option - If I had gained an extra 3rd round pick by trading down earlier I might attempt to find another OLB. This is where BPA really comes into play. The 4 candidates I am looking at are Okoronkwo, Dorance Armstrong, Tyquan Lewis, or possiblie Kylie Fitts later on in the draft.

4th Round - I am going to be looking for another OL who could potentially start later in the season as he gets up to speed and coached up. Sort of how the Texans used Davenport last year. I'm willing to take some lumps if there is upside. I like the kid from NC A&T Brandon Parker, but he might not be available in the 4th. So, I'm looking for Kolton Miller, Joseph Noteboom, Cole Madison, or even Alex Cappa.

5th Round - Searching for a big back to replace Gore. The RB hungry teams have probably selected the best ones early, so I'm going to take the scraps left over. Perhaps a Royce Freeman or Bo Scarbrough.

6th Round - I am not in love with the WR class, but I will take a flyer. Love watching DaeSean Hamilton this week, and that may make him unavailable come draft day. My other targets are Javon Wims and TreQuan Smith.

7th Round - Looking for an ILB that can tackle. Candidates include Tegray Scales, Darius Leonard, Jason Cabinda, Jack Cichy, Chris Worley, Davin Bellamy, Garret Dooley, Ulysses Gilbert.
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Old 01-25-2018, 10:05 PM
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Where would you project Malik Jefferson to fall? (LB - Texas)
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Old 01-25-2018, 10:15 PM
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It really depends upon the 40 time. I could see him at #40 if he runs a 4.65. Or, if he runs over 4.7 the bottom could fall out and we are talking about a Day 3 prospect. ILBs are not so highly sought after unless they show speed under 4.5 with the production on film. That's why I have Roquan Smith ranked so highly. Trumaine Edmunds is bigger and I am waiting to see if he is a 4.6 or a 4.8 guy.
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:05 PM
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Sitting here formulating a game plan watching Senior Bowl practices as to what I might do for the Colts as I am massaging my draft board attempting to get a feel for who might be available when... of course this is all subject to change as we get numbers from the Combine. But as it stands right now with high picks in all 7 rounds, this is the type of plan I would implement.

#3 DE Bradley Chubb - I really hope he is there at #3. I could potentially move down to #5 or #6 so that the Broncos or Jets could move up for a QB and garner an extra 2nd round pick.

2nd Round - I need to address my OL. I am liking what I see from Isaiah Wynn, Tyrell Crosby, and Brian O'neil. I'm not sure that I can wait for one of these guys to fall to the top of the 3rd round.

3rd Round - My target is a big CB that may not run a sub 4.5 but has Press-Man skills and Ball skills. I would love to get Isaiah Oliver from Colorado. I could also target Kevin Toliver, Duke Dawson, Quenton Meeks, or Kameron Kelly.

3rd Round option - If I had gained an extra 3rd round pick by trading down earlier I might attempt to find another OLB. This is where BPA really comes into play. The 4 candidates I am looking at are Okoronkwo, Dorance Armstrong, Tyquan Lewis, or possiblie Kylie Fitts later on in the draft.

4th Round - I am going to be looking for another OL who could potentially start later in the season as he gets up to speed and coached up. Sort of how the Texans used Davenport last year. I'm willing to take some lumps if there is upside. I like the kid from NC A&T Brandon Parker, but he might not be available in the 4th. So, I'm looking for Kolton Miller, Joseph Noteboom, Cole Madison, or even Alex Cappa.

5th Round - Searching for a big back to replace Gore. The RB hungry teams have probably selected the best ones early, so I'm going to take the scraps left over. Perhaps a Royce Freeman or Bo Scarbrough.

6th Round - I am not in love with the WR class, but I will take a flyer. Love watching DaeSean Hamilton this week, and that may make him unavailable come draft day. My other targets are Javon Wims and TreQuan Smith.

7th Round - Looking for an ILB that can tackle. Candidates include Tegray Scales, Darius Leonard, Jason Cabinda, Jack Cichy, Chris Worley, Davin Bellamy, Garret Dooley, Ulysses Gilbert.
Who gives a pig-shit about the Colts ?
Maybe you lost your way, got confused, FYI this is a Houston Texans MB.
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:27 PM
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I know that this is a Texans board. The teams both have many of the same needs. Of course Houston does not have a pick until the 3rd round. I will discuss a similar strategy tailored to the Texans.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:24 PM
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I led Roy in the Colts' direction with this discussion for the very reason that the Texans don't draft until the 3rd round so we will miss out on roughly 70 players before we even step to the podium.
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