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04-19-2010, 04:48 PM
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19 April Simulator post Sims/Scheffler/#137 Trade
Ok, I ran the simulator and my choice came down between Spiller & Weatherspoon....
Round 1 Pick Team Selection Psn School 1 St Louis Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma 2 Detroit Ndamukong Suh DT43 Nebraska 3 Tampa Bay Gerald McCoy DT43 Oklahoma 4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 5 Kansas City Eric Berry SS Tennessee 6 Seattle Derrick Morgan DE43 Georgia Tech 7 Cleveland Earl Thomas FS Texas 8 Oakland Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa 9 Buffalo Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 10 Jacksonville Joe Haden CB Florida 11 Denver Rolando McClain ILB Alabama 12 Miami Dan Williams DT34 Tennessee 13 San Francisco Taylor Mays SS USC 14 Seattle Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame 15 NY Giants Mike Iupati OG Idaho 16 Tennessee Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 17 San Francisco Anthony Davis OT Rutgers 18 Pittsburgh Devin McCourty CB Rutgers 19 Atlanta Brandon Graham DE43 Michigan 20 Houston Dez Bryant WRF Oklahoma State 21 Cincinnati Everson Griffen DE43 USC 22 New England Sergio Kindle OLB34 Texas 23 Green Bay C.J. Spiller RBC Clemson 24 Philadelphia Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 25 Baltimore Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma 26 Arizona Jerry Hughes OLB34 TCU 27 Dallas Jared Odrick DE34 Penn State 28 San Diego Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State 29 NY Jets Maurkice Pouncey OG Florida 30 Minnesota Jason Pierre-Paul DE43 South Florida 31 Indianapolis Bruce Campbell OT Maryland 32 New Orleans Sean Weatherspoon OLB43 Missouri
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. 
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04-19-2010, 04:50 PM
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Round 2
After taking Spiller in the 1st round, I wanted a DB. Perhaps I should have gone OL instead...John Jerry sure would look good in our interior.
33 St Louis Golden Tate WRF Notre Dame 34 Detroit Rodger Saffold OG Indiana 35 Tampa Bay Carlos Dunlap DE43 Florida 36 Kansas City Charles Brown OT USC 37 Philadelphia Nate Allen FS South Florida 38 Cleveland Colt McCoy QB Texas 39 Oakland Daryl Washington ILB TCU 40 San Diego Terrence Cody DT34 Alabama 41 Buffalo Ricky Sapp OLB34 Clemson 42 Tampa Bay Demaryius Thomas WRP Georgia Tech 43 Denver Arrelious Benn WRF Illinois 44 New England Damian Williams WRF USC 45 Denver Vladimir Ducasse OG Massachusetts 46 NY Giants Brian Price DT43 UCLA 47 New England Corey Wootton DE34 Northwestern 48 Carolina Brandon LaFell WRF LSU 49 San Francisco Kareem Jackson CB Alabama 50 Kansas City Sean Lee ILB Penn State 51 Houston Chris Cook CB Virginia 52 Pittsburgh John Jerry OG Mississippi 53 New England Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona 54 Cincinnati Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech 55 Philadelphia Alex Carrington DE43 Arkansas State 56 Green Bay Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest 57 Baltimore Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma 58 Arizona Eric Norwood ILB South Carolina 59 Dallas Dexter McCluster WRS Mississippi 60 Seattle Jahvid Best RBC California 61 NY Jets Koa Misi OLB34 Utah 62 Minnesota Tim Tebow QB Florida 63 Indianapolis Tyson Alualu DT43 California 64 New Orleans Jonathan Dwyer RBF Georgia Tech
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 04:55 PM
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I wanted the other half of my RB duo to go with Spiller and I assumed Tate would be off the board. Ben Tate did not get selected in the 3rd round but was available in rnd 4. Just a lot of wants in this round to choose from. Geno Atkins did not make it to my pick.
Round 3 65 St Louis Chad Jones OLB43 LSU 66 Detroit Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (PA) 67 Tampa Bay Carlton Mitchell WRF South Florida 68 Kansas City Matt Tennant OC Boston College 69 Oakland Lamarr Houston DT43 Texas 70 Philadelphia Jason Worilds DE43 Virginia Tech 71 Cleveland Reshad Jones SS Georgia 72 Buffalo Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 73 Miami Thaddeus Gibson OLB34 Ohio State 74 Jacksonville Taylor Price WRF Ohio 75 Chicago Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 76 NY Giants Donald Butler ILB Washington 77 Tennessee J.D. Walton OC Baylor 78 Carolina Geno Atkins DT43 Georgia 79 San Francisco Mike Johnson OG Alabama 80 Denver Jacoby Ford WRS Clemson 81 Houston Jimmy Graham TE Miami 82 Pittsburgh Navorro Bowman ILB Penn State 83 Atlanta Larry Asante OLB43 Nebraska 84 Cincinnati Aaron Hernandez TE Florida 85 Cleveland Jared Veldheer OT Hillsdale 86 Green Bay Jermaine Cunningham OLB34 Florida 87 Philadelphia Marshall Newhouse OG TCU 88 Arizona Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan 89 Arizona Eric Decker WRF Minnesota 90 Dallas Major Wright FS Florida 91 San Diego Jerome Murphy CB South Florida 92 Cleveland Greg Hardy OLB34 Mississippi 93 Minnesota Joe McKnight RBC USC 94 Indianapolis Javier Arenas CB Alabama 95 New Orleans Cam Thomas DT43 North Carolina 96 Cincinnati T.J. Ward FS Oregon 97 Tennessee Jamar Chaney ILB Mississippi State 98 Atlanta Anthony McCoy TE USC
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 04:58 PM
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04-19-2010, 05:01 PM
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Tate was selected at the top of the round, so I didn't 'reach' for him since I couldn't get him with our next pick. Linval Joseph was snatched right before my pick. Lots of My Guys were drafted at the top of this round. I am very high on the DE from Wash, and it seems I may have 'reached' here....and might have been better of getting CB Alterraun Verner.
Round 4 99 St Louis Toby Gerhart RBF Stanford 100 Detroit Ben Tate RBF Auburn 101 Tampa Bay Dekoda Watson OLB43 Florida State 102 Kansas City Torrell Troup DT34 Central Florida 103 Washington Montario Hardesty RBF Tennessee 104 Seattle Selvish Capers OT West Virginia 105 Philadelphia Mike Neal DT43 Purdue 106 Oakland Tony Pike QB Cincinnati 107 Buffalo Anthony Dixon RBF Mississippi State 108 Jacksonville Darrell Stuckey SS Kansas 109 Chicago Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech 110 Miami Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State 111 Tennessee Riley Cooper WRF Florida 112 Carolina Austen Lane DE43 Murray State 113 San Francisco Brandon Lang OLB34 Troy 114 Denver Ed Dickson TE Oregon 115 NY Giants Dennis Pitta TE BYU 116 Pittsburgh Arthur Jones DE34 Syracuse 117 Atlanta Linval Joseph DT43 East Carolina 118 Houston C.J. Wilson DE43 East Carolina 119 New England Dorin Dickerson TE Pittsburgh 120 Cincinnati Amari Spievey CB Iowa 121 Philadelphia Jeremy Williams WRF Tulane 122 Green Bay Kyle Calloway OT Iowa 123 Arizona Marshawn Gilyard WRS Cincinnati 124 NY Jets Myron Lewis FS Vanderbilt 125 Dallas Alterraun Verner CB UCLA 126 San Diego Jarrett Brown QB West Virginia 127 Seattle Blair White WRF Michigan State 128 Minnesota Rennie Curran OLB43 Georgia 129 Indianapolis Mitch Petrus OG Arkansas 130 New Orleans Lindsey Witten DE43 Connecticut 131 Cincinnati Zane Beadles OG Utah
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 05:05 PM
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That Alterraun Verner at #118 looks like the better idea since Daniel slipped past #150... Shawn Lauvao would have been o.k. too as a developmental OG.
Round 5 132 St Louis Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky 133 Seattle Jeff Owens DT43 Georgia 134 Cleveland Tony Moeaki TE Iowa 135 Washington Ciron Black OG LSU 136 Kansas City Andre Roberts WRS Citadel 137 Denver Eric Olsen OC Notre Dame 138 Oakland Clay Harbor FB Missouri State 139 Seattle James Starks RBF Buffalo 140 Buffalo John Skelton QB Fordham 141 Chicago Ed Wang OT Virginia Tech 142 Kansas City Shawn Lauvao OG Arizona State 143 Jacksonville Jonathan Crompton QB Tennessee 144 Kansas City Garrett Graham TE Wisconsin 145 Miami Brian Jackson FS Oklahoma 146 Cleveland Syd'Quan Thompson CB California 147 NY Giants A.J. Edds OLB43 Iowa 148 Tennessee Dezmon Briscoe WRP Kansas 149 Atlanta Jordan Shipley WRS Texas 150 Houston D'Anthony Smith DT43 Louisiana Tech 151 Pittsburgh Joique Bell RBF Wayne State 152 Cincinnati Jason Fox OT Miami 153 Tampa Bay Emmanuel Sanders WRS SMU 154 Green Bay Donovan Warren CB Michigan 155 Pittsburgh Willie Young OLB34 North Carolina State 156 Baltimore Clifton Geathers DE34 South Carolina 157 Baltimore Sam Young OT Notre Dame 158 Oakland Brandon Carter OG Texas Tech 159 San Diego Pat Angerer ILB Iowa 160 Cleveland Vince Oghobaase DE34 Duke 161 Minnesota Walter Thurmond CB Oregon 162 Indianapolis Daniel Te'o-nesheim DE43 Washington 163 St Louis Kevin Basped DE43 Nevada 164 Pittsburgh Ted Larsen OC North Carolina State 165 Atlanta Phillip Dillard ILB Nebraska 166 Pittsburgh Shay Hodge WRF Mississippi 167 Minnesota Perry Riley ILB LSU 168 San Diego O'Brien Schofield OLB34 Wisconsin 169 Green Bay Kevin Haslam OG Rutgers
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 05:10 PM
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In round 5, I selected my 'sleeper' CB Kevin Thomas. He went before my next pick, so again, the only "reach" was the DE from Washington...I took my 3rd DB McFadden and a 3-Tech Earl Mitchell.
Round 6 170 St Louis Kurt Coleman SS Ohio State 171 Atlanta Robert Johnson FS Utah 172 Tampa Bay Charles Scott RBF LSU 173 Miami Myron Rolle SS Florida State 174 Miami John Estes OG Hawaii 175 Carolina Joe Webb QB UAB 176 Seattle Kevin Thomas CB USC 177 Cleveland Mike Williams WRF Syracuse 178 Buffalo Marcus Easley WRF Connecticut 179 Miami LeGarrette Blount RBF Oregon 180 Jacksonville Kavell Conner OLB43 Clemson 181 Chicago A.J. Jefferson CB Fresno State 182 San Francisco David Pender FS Purdue 183 Denver Danario Alexander WRP Missouri 184 NY Giants Rashawn Jackson FB Virginia 185 Tennessee Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State 186 Cleveland Lonyae Miller RBF Fresno State 187 Houston Jeromy Miles FS Massachusetts 188 Pittsburgh Al Woods DT34 LSU 189 Atlanta Harry Coleman SS LSU 190 New England Darryl Sharpton ILB Miami 191 Cincinnati Roddrick Muckelroy OLB43 Texas 192 Buffalo Travis Ivey DT34 Maryland 193 Green Bay Terrell Skinner FS Maryland 194 Baltimore George Selvie OLB34 South Florida 195 Arizona [U]Walter McFadden[/U] CB Auburn 196 Dallas David Gettis WRF Baylor 197 Houston Shelley Smith OG Colorado State 198 NY Jets Armanti Edwards WRS Appalachian State 199 Minnesota Fendi Onobun TE Houston 200 Philadelphia Andrew Quarless TE Penn State 201 New Orleans Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky 202 Carolina Derek Hardman OT Eastern Kentucky 203 Jacksonville Rahim Alem DE43 LSU 204 Carolina Chris Scott OG Tennessee 205 New England Andre Anderson RBF Tulane 206 San Francisco Deji Karim RBC Southern Illinois 207 Tennessee Chris Marinelli OT Stanford
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 05:13 PM
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Round 7
I just went with the best athlete. Simoni could be a Will or a SS, maybe he's just a Special Teams guy. 208 St Louis Earl Mitchell DT43 Arizona 209 Buffalo Pat Paschall RBC North Dakota State 210 Tampa Bay Nolan Carroll FS Maryland 211 Washington Joshua Moore CB Kansas State 212 Miami Antonio Brown WRS Central Michigan 213 Detroit Arthur Moats DE43 James Madison 214 Detroit Chris DeGeare OT Wake Forest 215 Oakland Jamar Wall CB Texas Tech 216 Buffalo Nate Byham TE Pittsburgh 217 Tampa Bay Tony Washington OT Abilene Christian 218 Chicago Corey Peters DT43 Kentucky 219 Miami Freddie Barnes WRF Bowling Green 220 Denver Dexter Davis OLB34 Arizona State 221 NY Giants Mike Kafka QB Northwestern 222 Tennessee Jeff Byers OG USC 223 Carolina Colin Peek TE Alabama 224 San Francisco David Reed WRF Utah 225 Pittsburgh John Conner FB Kentucky 226 St Louis Drew Davis OT Alabama 227 Houston Andre Dixon RBF Connecticut 228 Cincinnati E.J. Wilson DT43 North Carolina 229 New England Nick Polk SS Indiana 230 Green Bay Leigh Tiffin PK Alabama 231 New England Jevan Snead QB Mississippi 232 Tampa Bay Simoni Lawrence SS Minnesota 233 Arizona Thomas Welch OT Vanderbilt 234 Dallas Larry Hart ILB Central Arkansas 235 San Diego Michael Hoomanawanui TE Illinois 236 NY Jets Seyi Ajirotutu WRF Fresno State 237 Minnesota Chris Brown RBF Oklahoma 238 Indianapolis Adrian Tracy OLB43 William & Mary 239 New Orleans Chris Hawkins FS LSU 240 Indianapolis Levi Brown QB Troy 241 Pittsburgh Curtis Steele RBC Memphis 242 Philadelphia Joe Hawley OC UNLV 243 Philadelphia Sean Canfield QB Oregon State 244 Seattle Antonio Coleman OLB43 Auburn 245 Tennessee Hall Davis DE43 Louisiana-Lafayette 246 Indianapolis Richard Dickson FB LSU 247 New England Shawnbrey McNeal RBC SMU 248 New England Patrick Stoudamire CB Western Illinois 249 Carolina Sam Shields CB Miami 250 New England Chris Carter WRS Cal Davis 251 Oakland Kyle McCarthy SS Notre Dame 252 Miami Mike McLaughlin ILB Boston College 253 Tampa Bay Boris Lee ILB Troy 254 St Louis Jeron Mastrud TE Kansas State 255 Detroit Darian Stewart SS South Carolina
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-19-2010, 05:26 PM
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20. RB C.J. Spiller 51. OG John Jerry 81. RB Ben Tate 118. CB Alterraun Verner 150. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 187. CB Walter McFadden 197. DT Earl Mitchell 227. LB Simoni Lawrence The other option is that I could simply draft Ben Tate at #20 (I like him more than Ryan Mathews anyway and I've seen that as an acceptable idea) Then I could still get Jerry in the 2nd round and at #81 I could go after FS Major Wright. If I wanted to get Geno Atkins as my pass-rushing DT I couldn't wait until the 3rd round like I wanted, so I'd need to spend my 2nd rounder on him. UGH! Perhaps if I had two 5th round picks I could get DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim AND FS Robert Johnson.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. Last edited by Roy P; 04-19-2010 at 09:27 PM.
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04-19-2010, 10:58 PM
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OK, I'm just going to readjust my thinking. Instead of focusing on Tate, I'm going to set my sights on Toby Gerhart as the workhorse RB to go into the mix with Foster and Slaton. I might just have to go for NEED in the first round. I ran a mock and came up with this for my collection....
1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri 2. OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi 3. RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford 4. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington 5. DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue 6a. FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah 6b. LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa 7. CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson Now, I understand that We don't need Weatherspoon, so I could have just gone with CB Kyle Wilson at #20 in this mock. There may be some who argue there's no NEED to get an OL in the 2nd round. Options included FS Morgan Burnett, DT Lamarr Houston, DT Linval Joseph, CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, or the RB's Tate/Hardesty. If I took a DT in the 2nd round, then in the 5th round I could have drafted an OL Shawn Lauvao.
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04-19-2010, 11:30 PM
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If you went with Wilson or McCourty in the 1st your draft would cover a lot of the needs, plus there is not the need to go Weatherspoon and Edds, they have the same skill set.
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04-20-2010, 01:30 AM
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I sure like the idea of Weatherspoon in round 1. Pair that with signing Haynesworth and we would immediately have an elite front 7. Super Bowl caliber defense, IMO. Gerhart would probably enjoy running behind Jerry also. That ought to add a ton of red zone offense.
Well, I just heard on Path to the Draft that the Redskins will probably hold on to Fat Albert after all and just play him all across the line. Therefore, he may be a moot point. Last edited by kRocket; 04-20-2010 at 03:28 AM.
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04-20-2010, 10:08 AM
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CB Kevin Thomas CB Walter McFadden CB Alterraun Verner NFLDraftScout.com now has Geno Atkins ranked #118, so I'd probably take him. They updated their list this morning. I am not 'looking' for a DE per se, but Te'o-Nesheim is just BPA in my estimation at a position of impact. Can a team play the Colts twice a year and really have too many pass-rushers? I picked up Edds to remind me that I could get him later and by simply changing my 1st round pick, I could have a decent draft (in terms of filling needs).
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04-20-2010, 12:34 PM
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04-20-2010, 01:44 PM
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2. OG John Jerry Mississippi 3. RB Toby Gerhart Stanford 4. DT Geno Atkins Georgia 5. DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim Washington 6a. FS Robert Johnson Utah 6b. LB AJ Edds Iowa 7. CB Crezdon Butler Clemson This may be the best I could do and that's IF these guys are available when we pick. Kyle Wilson 'replaces' the perceived "Shut Down" CB that we lost in Dunta Robinson. John Jerry is fast enough to be considered a ZBS and yet large enough to make a hole to run through. Toby Gerhart may be the steal of the draft because he's White (that's a strange thought). Geno Atkins may get more sacks and TFLs than Okoye. Te'o-Nesheim is another body to bring in and perhaps a better version of Antonio Smith as he gets older. Robert Johnson isn't exactly Eric Berry or Earl Thomas, but he is a ballhawk and we don't spend a 1st rounder to get him. Edds isn't fast, but he's intelligent and may lead the team in INTERCEPTIONS as a rookie LB. With Quinn and Wilson on the outside, I'd let Butler play the Nickle.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks. Last edited by Roy P; 04-20-2010 at 01:52 PM.
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04-20-2010, 08:51 PM
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CMD #28 19 April
20 CB Kareem Jackson
51 OG John Jerry 81 RB Ben Tate 118 DT Linval Joseph 150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 187 FS Robert Johnson 197 CB Crezdon Butler 227 RB Deji Karim Some of the picks the simulator and I agree on. Interestingly, my pick at #20 was the computer's pick at #51. 
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04-21-2010, 09:53 PM
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Final Board vs. Final Simulator....
20 CB Kareem Jackson
51 RB Jahvid Best 81 RB Ben Tate 118 DT Linval Joseph 150 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 187 FS Robert Johnson 197 OG Shelley Smith 227 CB Crezdon Butler A CB to replace Dunta followed by two complementary runningbacks. A huge body in the middle and another pass-rusher. A ball-hawk Free Safety that has the hands to make interceptions. An athletic OL from Colorado. Another CB and Special Teams contributor. Yeah, I could be o.k. with this if I couldn't trade and get more picks.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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