Baby Shan Leaving Texans / Search for a New OC

[ramp1028]

Charlie Weiss anybody?

[WMH]

Originally Posted by NBT

I don't know, I kind of like Mike Munchak for the OC job. He would certainly improve the run blocking and working with Kubiak, it shouldn't hurt the passing game too much. Besides it would piss off Bud Adams to lose him to the Texans. I like that thought. After thought: it would also reunite Munchak and Mathews, the best two Olinemen the old Oilers ever had.

The Chronic is reporting that our request to interview him was denied....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6800366.html

I didn't think they could block it if it was a promotion.....Typical Bud Adams, screw you Houston shit. Not that I was a huge fan of this thought, but that is classless to keep a man down that wants to be a HC someday.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by ramp1028

Charlie Weiss anybody?

Shirley, you jest?

[James]

Have to agree with Roy P on this one, Musgrave and Schaub do have one year of prior work together.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by ramp1028

Charlie Weiss anybody?

I think Tom Brady made Weiss. Plus, he is an egotistical maniac. I would like to have an OC stay for a few years. Plus, that guy would put Fogo de Chao out of business.

[painekiller]

No one has mentioned Jim Zorn, he is a WCO guy.

As for Bud blocking Munchak, the Cards did the same thing with Frank Bush. It is one of the old tradition, that died a while ago.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by painekiller

No one has mentioned Jim Zorn, he is a WCO guy.

That's really a good idea........ I wonder if he and Kubiak have ever crossed paths?....

[Warren]

Originally Posted by WMH

The Chronic is reporting that our request to interview him was denied....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6800366.html

I didn't think they could block it if it was a promotion.....Typical Bud Adams, screw you Houston shit. Not that I was a huge fan of this thought, but that is classless to keep a man down that wants to be a HC someday.

There used to be a rule that each team could designate two supervisory assistant coach positions (usually the coordinators) and non-supervisor assistants could interview for those jobs without having to get permission from their employers. That was changed so now an assistant under contract can’t interview with another team for a job other than head coach without permission. At least when the Cardinals blocked Bush from coming in 2006 they bumped him up to assistant head coach.

Originally Posted by Keith

But that's why I also referenced job sanity... working long days and nights with your father (seems over-romanticized to me once the "teehee, this is fun!" wears off) not to mention working for a crazy boss like Snyder might be detrimental to one's mental well-being.

I think Shanito also runs the risk of getting the same stigma that Kubiak had for a while in Denver -- that Big Shan is the one really running the offense.

Did it strike anyone else as a little odd that the Texans were openly looking for Lil Shan's replacement over 24 hours before Shan Sr.'s hiring was announced?

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing. I think the fact that Kubiak is involved in the offense, though, gives the Texans more flexibility to get bring someone in who hasn’t been a coordinator or play-caller before.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by texan

My money's on Rick Dennison.

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/New...?story_id=6473
The Bears will look to create some stability for Cutler, who will work with his third offensive coordinator in as many seasons in 2010 following Rick Dennison in Denver and Ron Turner in Chicago.

Why wouldn't the Bears want to hire Dennison to work with Cutler in Chicago? Now that Kyle is going to D.C., I'd think the Bears would want to beat us to the punch on Dennison.


http://www.atlantafalcons.com/People..._Musgrave.aspx

This is the fellow I'm leaning towards.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by ramp1028

Charlie Weiss anybody?

He just signed on with KC. That could be an interesting team to watch next year.....

[NBT]

Originally Posted by WMH

The Chronic is reporting that our request to interview him was denied....
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6800366.html

I didn't think they could block it if it was a promotion.....Typical Bud Adams, screw you Houston shit. Not that I was a huge fan of this thought, but that is classless to keep a man down that wants to be a HC someday.

That is typical classless Bud Adams. Screw you Bud.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Warren

My guess is that Weis would go to a team with a defensive-minded head coach who will toss him the keys to the offense and let him do his thing.

...or he could go to a team with a head coach with an offensive background like Todd Haley.

Speaking of fired college coaches, another name that came to mind is Steve Kragthorpe, most recently head coach at Louisville but who also had a decent stint as QB coach for the Bills. He and Kubiak coached at A&M within a few years of each other, so while they haven't worked together I'm sure they've worked with some of the same people.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by WMH

He just signed on with KC. That could be an interesting team to watch next year.....

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/todd_haley/

Haley also worked as an offensive assistant/quality control coach for the Jets (’97-98), working closely with offensive coordinator Charlie Weis,

[cland]

Originally Posted by NBT

That is typical classless Bud Adams. Screw you Bud.

I say we pay the new OC a ridiculous salary, and publicly announce it just to sew dissension amongst the titan ranks.

*Mental Clip/Flash Forward to 2010 Texans v. Titans game*
Solomon 'stab me' Wilcotts: Can you believe it? Okoye already has 5 sacks on Vince Young! It's like he has the swine flu, and the Titan's line won't touch him!

[Warren]

Scheffler just reported on ESPN that the Texans have recieved permission from the Broncos to talk to Dennison. And that Dennison happens to be Kubiak's best friend. Welcome to Houston, Rick.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by Warren

Scheffler just reported on ESPN that the Texans have recieved permission from the Broncos to talk to Dennison. And that Dennison happens to be Kubiak's best friend. Welcome to Houston, Rick.

Heard that too. I realize that hiring your buddies is par for the course in coaching, but geez, I'm tired of Kubiak not even considering anyone that he's not facebook friends with.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Joshua

Heard that too. I realize that hiring your buddies is par for the course in coaching, but geez, I'm tired of Kubiak not even considering anyone that he's not facebook friends with.

I'm wondering what the odds are we draft Klint Kubiak to play FS come April.

[painekiller]

Dennison was Kubiak's 1st choice to be our OC 4 years ago. He was blocked then.

Bush was blocked and look at how well that has worked out.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I'm wondering what the odds are we draft Klint Kubiak to play FS come April.

Hey, there's also one Kevin Matthews (yep, son of Bruce), a very large center, graduating from A&M... Any opinions on him? I see on some draft boards that he's listed but not very high...

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Joshua

Heard that too. I realize that hiring your buddies is par for the course in coaching, but geez, I'm tired of Kubiak not even considering anyone that he's not facebook friends with.

Baby Shan turned out pretty good, little Gibbs seems to be a keeper and Frank Bush is a defensive genious compared to any prior DC we ever had. I am all for someone who Kubes trusts with the playcalling so he can concentrate on being a HC during the game.