Jaques Reeves

[papabear]

Originally Posted by Arky

Uhh, yeah. I also said:

I know and I wasn't attacking your comment....I just don't think that Dunta has any shot of playing on opening day regardless of what he says right now. I'm glad to see he's taken the attitude that he's going to work his tail off and get back on the field.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Arky

At some point, it won't matter what the MRI's or the doctor says they will have to go with what Dunta says.

i disagree like 6 bajillion percent. i'll take the prognosis of a highly trained professional using a big fancy machine over the word of a highly paid athlete in a contract year. 80% of dunta robinson is not that great of a corner. we need the man himself, as himself.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by KJ3

i disagree like 6 bajillion percent. i'll take the prognosis of a highly trained professional using a big fancy machine over the word of a highly paid athlete in a contract year. 80% of dunta robinson is not that great of a corner. we need the man himself, as himself.

He's 80%? I didn't know that. When is he going to be 100%?

[KJ3]

dude, i'm just guessing. we all know he wouldn't be 100% if he walks out onto the field the first sunday, my point is we need 100% dunta...not anything less.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by KJ3

dude, i'm just guessing. we all know he wouldn't be 100% if he walks out onto the field the first sunday, my point is we need 100% dunta...not anything less.

And my point was, at some point it doesn't matter what the doctors or the MRI's say. (you know, the part where you disagree like 6 bajillion percent?) At some point, they are going to say, "We've done all we can, it's up to you, now, to rehab/work your way back".

It just amazes me to read in the various internet forums how everybody knows the fate or what is best for Dunta. Some have him as Boselli vers 2.0 - never to play again and some have him coming all the way back to 100%. Lots of in between. Some say he'll play but never be 100% again.

Everybody is guessing. Only Dunta, if he's honest with himself, can say where he is really at.

Reports coming out say he's out there running around at practice, now. If you put any stock in what McClain says, that at practice, he's looking good but still having trouble with lateral movement and turn-and-run... that Dunta is saying, "October" and the team is saying, "November". With 3 months still to go, he (McClain) doesn't doubt that he will return this year.

http://www.chron.com/sports/

Go to the Justice/McClain Audio links in the lower right and click on "Texans confident about Season". Dunta info is about half way through.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by Arky

Go to the Justice/McClain Audio links in the lower right and click on "Texans confident about Season". Dunta info is about half way through.

i don't disagree with you on your assesment of duante, but this is the wrong crowd to use those two dingleberries as sources.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by cadams

i don't disagree with you on your assesment of duante, but this is the wrong crowd to use those two dingleberries as sources.

I'm not a big fan of either but actually, I'd rather listen to someone that has been to a few OTA's rather than someone that has been to zero OTA's.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Arky

And my point was, at some point it doesn't matter what the doctors or the MRI's say. (you know, the part where you disagree like 6 bajillion percent?) At some point, they are going to say, "We've done all we can, it's up to you, now, to rehab/work your way back".

yea there is a point where what the doctors say doesn't matter. it's after they give him clearance to play with the team. it's after he's rehabed and worked his way back, so as long as they feel he is healthy he can play...i'm not sure where you think dunta's opinion comes in but he's not going to be able just tell the texans medical staff to shove it and go play because he thinks he can...unless he doesn't want his money.

It just amazes me to read in the various internet forums how everybody knows the fate or what is best for Dunta. Some have him as Boselli vers 2.0 - never to play again and some have him coming all the way back to 100%. Lots of in between. Some say he'll play but never be 100% again. I'm a big hypocrite.

Everybody is guessing. Only Dunta, if he's honest with himself, can say where he is really at.

pppppppppsdfakld......so we're not allowed to talk about it even though i just said i was guessing at his current health?

by the way, MRI machines and degrees in such matters hold a fairly weighted portion of the general opinion of this person. in fact, DUNTA CAN'T PLAY UNTIL THEY CLEAR HIM. i think they matter just a weeeeee lil' bit. there are reasons why athletes don't treat themselves, i know, that's weird but i swear it's true.

Reports coming out say he's out there running around at practice, now. If you put any stock in what McClain says, that at practice, he's looking good but still having trouble with lateral movement and turn-and-run... that Dunta is saying, "October" and the team is saying, "November". With 3 months still to go, he (McClain) doesn't doubt that he will return this year.

http://www.chron.com/sports/

Go to the Justice/McClain Audio links in the lower right and click on "Texans confident about Season". Dunta info is about half way through.

you're looking to JOHN F*CK*NG MCCLAIN for information about lateral movements and being able to turn or run? that's your whole problem right there son. besides, you just give us the business about "everybody knows what's best for dunta" and then give like one of the worst sources in the history of sources as your definitive stamp of righteousness? please.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by KJ3

yea there is a point where what the doctors say doesn't matter. it's after they give him clearance to play with the team. it's after he's rehabed and worked his way back, so as long as they feel he is healthy he can play...i'm not sure where you think dunta's opinion comes in but he's not going to be able just tell the texans medical staff to shove it and go play because he thinks he can...unless he doesn't want his money.

See: Spencer. I'd say the doctors have done all they can do with him. Is he not "cleared"? Can he still do his job? Who makes that determination? At this point, I'd say it would be up to he and the coaches.

Originally Posted by KJ3

pppppppppsdfakld......so we're not allowed to talk about it even though i just said i was guessing at his current health?

Sure you can. Guess all you want - that's what these forums are for. Some use inside info and facts to form their opinions - others just blabber out whatever comes to mind....

Originally Posted by KJ3

by the way, MRI machines and degrees in such matters hold a fairly weighted portion of the general opinion of this person. in fact, DUNTA CAN'T PLAY UNTIL THEY CLEAR HIM. i think they matter just a weeeeee lil' bit. there are reasons why athletes don't treat themselves, i know, that's weird but i swear it's true.

See my first reply.

Originally Posted by KJ3

you're looking to JOHN F*CK*NG MCCLAIN for information about lateral movements and being able to turn or run? that's your whole problem right there son. besides, you just give us the business about "everybody knows what's best for dunta" and then give like one of the worst sources in the history of sources as your definitive stamp of righteousness? please.

Jeez, take a valium - that last hyperbole got away from you.

Son? Eheh, judging from your responses, I'd say I'm probably twice your age.

Re: McClain, sure, as mentioned, I'd rather hear what he has to say rather than someone typing from their work computer. He does have about 30-some years reporting on sports and he is not always wrong (and I can't believe I'm defending him). Did you even go listen at the link I posted?

This is my last post on the subject. Your floor.

[Bigtinylittle]

I don't consider McClain a football genius, but I respect him for what he is: a guy who likes football, has a few sources but not as many as he'd like, and a guy that as far as I can tell doesn't just make stuff up. As a source, I'd but him well ahead of some of the radio sports jocks in Houston.

One of the reasons Dunte was written off at the time he got his injury is the total hamstring tear. But from what I have been hearing, the hamstring operation was a total success. If that is true, then what Dunte is dealing with is just a normal ACL tear with a little extra rehab time because of the hamstring thing. If that is the case, then he should be able to play pretty well this year and be fully or almost fully as good as he was before in another year or so.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Arky

See: Spencer. I'd say the doctors have done all they can do with him. Is he not "cleared"? Can he still do his job? Who makes that determination? At this point, I'd say it would be up to he and the coaches.

i don't think they've cleared him for contact have they? i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure all he's done is individual workouts to this point. just like my boy dunta. they both need the MEDICAL CLEARANCE before "i'm good to go" means anything to any coach.

who makes the determination? the doctors.

Sure you can. Guess all you want - that's what these forums are for. Some use inside info and facts to form their opinions - others just blabber out whatever comes to mind....

talked yourself into a circle here. more like the olympic games logo: circles in circles.

Jeez, take a valium - that last hyperbole got away from you.

Son? Eheh, judging from your responses, I'd say I'm probably twice your age.

jeebus h. rodriguez, if i call you my dawg are you gonna tell me that you're not a dog? if i call you a homie are you gonna tell me you're at work?

Re: McClain, sure, as mentioned, I'd rather hear what he has to say rather than someone typing from their work computer. He does have about 30-some years reporting on sports and he is not always wrong (and I can't believe I'm defending him). Did you even go listen at the link I posted?

This is my last post on the subject. Your floor.

just because john mcclain has been a terrible sports reporter for 30 years it doesn't make him any more right about anything. you don't want sports opinions from somebody who doesn't get paid to opine on sports (i.e. me)? that's just fine. but excuse me if i'm not going to take analysis on running from a guy who probably hasn't seen the lower half of his body without the aid of a mirror for the same 30 years.

[NBT]

There was a time, back when we still had the old Houston Post, McLain actually had to work a little bit, and had some good years along with the Luv Ya Blue teams. However, now that he's self styled himself a little short fat strutting "general", those days are sadly gone. RIP.

[KJ3]

i'll just have to take your word for it NBT. i still can't get the image of mad tv's impression of kenny rogers out of my mind when john mcclain talks.

[NBT]

But back to Reeves. Iwill be watching closely to see how he looks in our system. He supposedly sucked in the Cowboys. His forte is supposedly bump and run, and being physical on the receivers. We sure need him to hold the rope......at least until Dunta can get back.

There are still a lot of sports writers out there who say our secondary sucks. Well that was last year. I really think the safeties will be better and deeper. The CB's however, I'm holding my breath and waiting?

[KJ3]

from what i've heard we've signed reeves as like a "change of scenary will be better for him" type. it makes me glad to hear he is a physical corner, he's got good size and speed which you would expect from an nfl corner. physical and aggressive play like that would really give some new adjectives to use on our defense. vanilla, soft, and bend but don't break are getting really old.

i agree with you the safeties should be better but they couldn't have been much worse. do they make our secondary fearsome? nope. i think the corners should be fine as long as reeves isn't petey-v.2. bennett should be a key component in his 2nd year if he continues his playmaking. plus we have a hungry dunta waiting to get back to action!!

[NBT]

Yeah, the vanilla soft, and bend but don't break are Richard Smith's legacies to date. The truth is, Kubiak told him to play conservative because he wasn't real confident of the RBs, or the offensive line. I hope with coach Gibbs running the ZBS, he will have the faith to run a more aggressive defense. That is one of the things I will be watching for very closely this season.

[Nconroe]

I thought the vanilla defense was partly due to dline, maybe front seven, couldn't bring enough pressure consistently. And we needed to get taller and faster, and let some of experience develop, and keep away from injuries, all of which are starting to show up, so, here's hoping for an improved looking defense and secondary.

[Dancerdog]

I would expect Dunta to be back the week after the bye. At least according to what word is coming out of the Texans organization. I sure hope he returns to his old self. That injury was horrendous.

[coloradodude]

About Dunta...that was a terrible injury. Anyone that is counting on him ever regaining his original speed is deceiving themselves. Provided he does come all the way back (minus the former super speed) he is still great in run support and screwing with the receivers at the line.

About Reeves...don't be shocked if this is his last year with the Texans.

[popanot]

Way to stay postive there, CD.