At The Combine

[Roy P]

I figured why not start a thread about what's going on in Indy.

Today's top stories...

1. Michael Crabtree - My highest rated player has a foot problem that needs surgery (like Jonathan Stewart) and will not be able to run before the draft. Could he really slip to #15?

2. Andre Smith - Told everyone that he would not bench yesterday because he is not in shape and has not prepared. Today, he was not in the building and nobody knew where he was. His agent took the bullet saying that it was his fault that he didn't tell everyone that his client was leaving for Atlanta to work out today in preparation of his Pro Day. He's not on my draft board and this only reinforces my doubts about his maturity.

3. Jason Smith - Probably the #1 pick in the draft, we have no shot at him.

4. TE Jared Cook is going to be going up on my draft board. He ran a 4.42 today and looks like a weapon. TE Shawn Nelson will also be climbing.

5. C Eric wood improved his stock.


edit - This just in...Crabtree will now run at his Pro Day

[dalemurphy]

What about this tackle from Nebraska: Murtha... he ran in the 4.8s and looked pretty darn good from what I saw. Do you think he'd make some sense for us as a backup/project at guard perhaps in the 3rd round, and, would he be there?

[Roy P]

Murtha is a 6-7th round prospect. He played in the Texas vs. The Nation game. Don't get too carried away with measurables. He will be lucky to make a roster in the NFL. Today's measurables probably means that he will be given a shot.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Murtha is a 6-7th round prospect. He played in the Texas vs. The Nation game. Don't get too carried away with measurables. He will be lucky to make a roster in the NFL. Today's measurables probably means that he will be given a shot.

Best 20-yard shuttle time (4.34) & 3-cone drill (7.06) along with top 40 time for OLineman. Athletically he's obviously highly qualified for ZB system.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Best 20-yard shuttle time (4.34) & 3-cone drill (7.06) along with top 40 time for OLineman. Athletically he's obviously highly qualified for ZB system.

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

We're going to regret letting Brandon Frye get away. I thought he looked very good in the preseason last year. I thought it was a big mistake to keep Studdard on the roster and let him go to the practice squad. On the other hand, there is the slight possibility that Alex Gibbs is better at evaluating NFL Oline talent than I am. I guess time will tell.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yeah, sort of like Adam Koets or Brandon Frye.

I thought you lived by those 3-cone & shuttle times in rating the potential of OLineman for the ZBS ?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

4. TE Jared Cook is going to be going up on my draft board. He ran a 4.42 today and looks like a weapon. TE Shawn Nelson will also be climbing.

Cook is now a 2nd round pick and Nelson is now a 3rd round pick in my book. I realize that O.D. is on our roster and we don't need another pass-catching TE, but I just can't help myself. Also, these guys are 6' 5" and would be big targets in the Red Zone.

The official 40s for these guys were 4.50 and 4.56 accoding the NFL Network. Their other measurables were also pretty impressive.

Cook - 23 Reps, 41" Vert, 10' 3" Jump
Nelson - 33" Vert, 9' 7" Jump, 6.96 Cone

[idymoe]

I know you guys probably get bored with me posting about BSU guys, but I was shocked when Ian Johnson weighed in at 212 and threw up 26 reps on the bench. I think he was about 195 his senior year. I thought he would run in the mid 4.4's and he did 4.46. The surprise to me was that was good enough for second best among running backs. I don't see why that wouldn't get him drafted, now. His positives have always been his patience as a runner, vision and deceptive change of speeds. The knocks have been his size and not blazing speed. So now he's added muscle and strength and ran one one-hundredth slower than the best time for running backs.

Peerman and Sheets helped themselves, also. I don't know how far they move up. Johnson and Sheets aren't even supposed to be drafted on some mocks. I don't think any of the top rated backs hurt themselves today, there just weren't any burners this year like Chris Johnson.

Gartrell Johnson's thighs are freaking huge. (thank you mr. obvious) He ran a 4.71, which I think is fine for the load he brings. I thought Jeremiah Johnson would run faster than his 4.57. Well, I guess that covers the Johnsons.

Anyone see anything they weren't expecting with the running backs?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Gartrell Johnson's thighs are freaking huge. (thank you mr. obvious) He ran a 4.71, which I think is fine for the load he brings.

And his second attempt was even slower at 4.77, with the official time maybe not breaking 4.8 ? I say good deal, maybe he slips even lower than the third round but I dunno if I'd want to risk it ?

[idymoe]

I think 4.71 is official. I'm getting times at Football's Future. Ian Johnson's unofficial times were 4.38 and 4.45 and they have his time at 4.46. It is sad you can't go to the official NFL site and easily find all the official results.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

I think 4.71 is official. I'm getting times at Football's Future. Ian Johnson's unofficial times were 4.38 and 4.45 and they have his time at 4.46. It is sad you can't go to the official NFL site and easily find all the official results.

You mean like here?

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

Or do you mean official results for EVERY player?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by idymoe

I think 4.71 is official. I'm getting times at Football's Future. Ian Johnson's unofficial times were 4.38 and 4.45 and they have his time at 4.46. It is sad you can't go to the official NFL site and easily find all the official results.

Wow, I did not see that one coming. Johnson does not play up to his times.