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Old 02-27-2009, 11:27 PM
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Can these RFA offers contain poison pills? I wonder if there's something hidden in the offer that would prevent us from matching? Honestly though, I'm not as worried as some about losing DA. I really don't think he brought anything to the table that AD/JJ/OD/Dressen or a decent FA/draft pick couldn't take up the slack on. DA was good at finding an open slot in the 5~10yd. range, but he was never a deep threat or a threat to break a big play.

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Old 02-27-2009, 11:37 PM
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Can these RFA offers tenders contain poison pills? I wonder if there's something hidden in the offer that would prevent us from matching?
Theoretically, yes. But usually the poison pill is to front-load the cap figure to make it harder for a cap-laden team to match. The Texans have ample cap room, so I doubt there is anything fishy here.

I can understand the casual attitude from some thinking it's okay to let Anderson go (I'm guessing he would probably relish a return to Colorado).

It's probably something the Bengals felt when the Texans signed Kevin Walter to an offer sheet for a 7th rounder. Nothing too exhorbitant in the offer, no poison pill, just more than the Bengals wanted to pay since they felt they had a deep WR corps, what with T.J. Whosyourmama, OchoCinco, and Chris Henry. Fast foward to 2009... think the Bengals would like Walter back?

Walter had 19-211-1 (11.1 avg) for a statline in 2005. Anderson in 2008 had 19-241-2 (12.7 avg). They look different in person, but otherwise the comparison is eerily similar.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:50 PM
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Theoretically, yes. But usually the poison pill is to front-load the cap figure to make it harder for a cap-laden team to match. The Texans have ample cap room, so I doubt there is anything fishy here.

I can understand the casual attitude from some thinking it's okay to let Anderson go (I'm guessing he would probably relish a return to Colorado).

It's probably something the Bengals felt when the Texans signed Kevin Walter to an offer sheet for a 7th rounder. Nothing too exhorbitant in the offer, no poison pill, just more than the Bengals wanted to pay since they felt they had a deep WR corps, what with T.J. Whosyourmama, OchoCinco, and Chris Henry. Fast foward to 2009... think the Bengals would like Walter back?

Walter had 19-211-1 (11.1 avg) for a statline in 2005. Anderson in 2008 had 19-241-2 (12.7 avg). They look different in person, but otherwise the comparison is eerily similar.
I was thinking a poision pill like; "If player XYZ plays X amount of games in Texas the player gets an extra $$$ in bonus or contract money". Something corny like that.

As for losing DA, I find it hard to compare him and Walters. Walters is much more explosive and has/had much higher upside potential. I can see some comparions of DA to Wes Welker or Brandon Stokley, but I don't think DA will ever reach their productivity. Sorry, I just don't see it happening. If Andre D can stay healthy, I think he's much more dangerous in the slot than DA was. I'd take Angry Dre, Davis and Walters over Dre, DA and Walters.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like him to be here. It's just that I don't see it as that big of a deal if he goes. Even if he does well, I don't think I'd ever think back and say "damn we should have kept him".

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Old 02-27-2009, 11:37 PM
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Can these RFA offers contain poison pills? I wonder if there's something hidden in the offer that would prevent us from matching? Honestly though, I'm not as worried as some about losing DA. I really don't think he brought anything to the table that AD/JJ/OD/Dressen or a decent FA/draft pick couldn't take up the slack on. DA was good at finding an open slot in the 5~10yd. range, but he was never a deep threat or a threat to break a big play.
Um, If we don't match, we lose the string dance forever, and that would be damn shame. Sure didn't take long for someone to pounce on him, did it? Looks like we got vonta leach'd again.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:51 PM
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Anderson played at Colorado St. so he may just want to go home.

I read where the Broncos were also pursuing Jabar Gaffney. The New England OC they hired for head coach apparently loves Welkeresque receivers.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:53 PM
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I hope we match. I think that Kubes likes DA. I am also hoping that the low tender was a wish in the well that no other teams were catching on to what we have potentialy in our #3-4 reciever.

I have this odd feeling that DA is one of the "guys" in the locker room that gives this team a odd ball feeling to it, personality wise. It has also been reported that his work ethic and dedication is huge. Losing a guy that is as versital as he is with the ability to produce with the chances he has been given could be a bad thing.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:02 AM
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Not so sure I would match the offer. Like Bob said the kid may just be trying to go home. And because I have my eye on this kid, Johnny Knox
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:38 AM
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http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090227.html

I'd prefer to keep Anderson, eschew the 7th rounder, and use my other picks to continue to address the needs on defense and running back.
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:06 AM
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I'm with popanot on this one. If the Texans match, fine. If they don't, not a big deal. Maybe use that 7th rounder on a future punter..... Turk ain't gonna last forever...I'd rather see AD or JJ get more reps, anyway. Although DA did an admirable job while he was on the field, he's just not going to run away from anybody....
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:38 AM
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whoops. Guess that's what happens when you try to slip one by. I'd be mildly surprised to see us match even though I like Anderson.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:01 AM
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Sure didn't take long for someone to pounce on him, did it? Looks like we got vonta leach'd again.
So just because someone quickly signed him to an offer sheet means he's destined to be a star?

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Old 02-28-2009, 07:18 PM
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So just because someone quickly signed him to an offer sheet means he's destined to be a star?

That's not what I'm saying at all. Just that we tried to slip a guy by with a low tender, and then he went and signed an offer sheet with another team. That's all, even though it's not quite the same, because we ended up having to give vonta a significant raise, whereas matching the broncos offer will put his 09 cap figure at just about what it would be if we'd given him the second round tender. I do think DA's gonna have himself a nice little career, though. Not great by any means, but he's an NFL caliber receiver, for sure. That and i'm sure gonna miss the string dance.
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