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Old 02-24-2009, 07:59 PM
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I think we might be seeing some of the last capped year / uncapped year coming into play here. The Redskins are definitely a "have", and if there is a team that would spend up to their eyeballs in an uncapped situation, it would be Dan Snyder and the Skins.

I think with the Texans tagging Dunta, cutting off talks with DeMeco, and (in what appears likely) tendering Owen Daniels instead of offering a new contract, the Texans might be putting off their big money deals to the uncapped year in 2010, too. Verrrrrrrrryyyy interestink /GermanSoldierVoiceFromLaughIn.

Credit to LZ for sure, but I think Peter King made mention of Haynesworth's agent being in D.C. in his last MMQB... this news isn't a total shock to me.
But why not lock these guys in long term now paying less money than they will get in an uncapped league, "year" is decieving because I dont see it changing for 10+ years if they go uncapped at all.

If the league goes uncapped, Demeco and Daniels will be UFA and still get paid less. That is no way to treat your star players though. They have both out performed their rookkie contracts and should be rewarded. I would never pay my best employee minimum wage while bringing in lesser talent that gets paid alot more.
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:22 PM
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The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:
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IGN Sports: Your team came to Houston during the season to face the Texans; does it help you to be familiar with the surroundings of the stadium as far as comfort zone?

Peppers: Actually, I work out in the off season here in Texas so I am very familiar with this whole surrounding. I look at this as my second home or my home away from home. I know my way around this city very well here.
Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:03 PM
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The UFA rules change in an uncapped year though, as DeMeco and Daniels would be RFAs next year.

Well... how's about this?? A Panthers message board is starting to think Houston might be a destination for Peppers based on pretty much the same factors we've already discussed in our forums.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Message...g=posts&t=5780

Peppers supposedly likes the Houston area and his agent Carl Carey lives here somewhere. Carey even informed the Panthers of Peppers' decision to leave Carolina from Houston. Peppers works out with Danny Arnold at Plex near Sugarland.

Peppers called Houston his second home in a 2004 interview:


Worth noting... when the Vikings acquired Jared Allen, who had been tagged by the Chiefs, it took a first rounder and two third rounders, plus a contract reported to have $31 million in guarantees over six years.

I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:23 PM
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I have zero interest in Peppers coming here. Not only would he cost too much in draftpick compensation but his contract would also cost us in terms of not being able to sign or re-sign players of interest. For a guy approaching 30 with inconsistent results and effort, I say, "no thank you!".
What he said.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:58 AM
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This just in from the guy who thought the 4th round was the 1st round of Day 2 (this would be me)...


I'd love to see Peppers in a Texans uniform. Now that I no longer care one hill of beans about the salary cap and compare the players on the Redskins and Cowgirls year after year verses ours....sign everybody you want! That's what those two teams do and yet we have had players that can't make it in Canada while being maxed out on cap room.

Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:15 AM
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Okay, I organized all this Peppers info into a single article with supporting linkage. Enjoy the mental holiday...

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090225.html
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:32 AM
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Okay, I organized all this Peppers info into a single article with supporting linkage. Enjoy the mental holiday...

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20090225.html

The thought of Peppers teamed with Mario is exciting...I doubt it will happen, but it would be fun to watch. I know Peppers has been accused of disappearing and taking plays off, but I know there's a tendency when a sack guy isn't getting sacks to say that he's coasting. Even if it's not the case. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. My biggest concern is what is going to happen when Mario wants a new deal. If we have to give Peppers close to 30 MILL gauranteed, what are we going to have to give Mario in a few years who is a better all around player IMO??? I would like to have Peppers, but I don't know that I would if it makes it hard to keep OD, Demeco, and Dunta. There's just so much uncertainty with the CBA. Any big move like this is even more risky than in a normal year.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:29 AM
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This just in from the guy who thought the 4th round was the 1st round of Day 2 (this would be me)...


I'd love to see Peppers in a Texans uniform. Now that I no longer care one hill of beans about the salary cap and compare the players on the Redskins and Cowgirls year after year verses ours....sign everybody you want! That's what those two teams do and yet we have had players that can't make it in Canada while being maxed out on cap room.

Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:35 AM
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I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.
But yet, they can make the playoffs or be in the running for division titles and we can't. Your analogy is like saying it's a bad thing to be dating the 3rd best looking Victoria Secret model.
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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I hardly thing we want to model our organization after those two. How about comparing our playoff wins in the last decade to the Cowboys and Redskins. Oh, that's right, they would combine for one more than us.

You totally missed my point. Those teams consistently have players I would love to see on our team (most teams would love to have many of their players). But we have suffered through the the most mediocre players and still have been maxed out on cap room.

And management/coaching is the reason those teams can't win more games...they definitely have the talent to win more games, including playoff games. Those tow teams know how to get superior players, they just don't kow what to do with them when they get them...excluding pacman Jones.
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:06 AM
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Sign Peppers! And Haynesworth too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what I'm talking about ! If you're gonna dream, really dream big, be all-in with it.
With a DLine featuring Mario, Peppers, & Haynesworth any warm body could play the 3-technique. Keith maybe ? I say lets give real meaning to fantasy football.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:47 PM
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...I would never pay my best employee minimum wage while bringing in lesser talent that gets paid a lot more.
You don't run many corporations do you ? I worked in them for 35 years and saw it all the time.
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