Official Search for a New Defensive Coordinator Thread - Bush Hired!

[Mike]

Originally Posted by gunn

I really hope they, at the very least, bring in McDermott to interview for the job.

As long as the Iggles are still playing, then they cannot contact him. Once they are done, then they can request permission to interview him.

[cland]

My opinion is that there is a whole lot of undercurrent that never shows up in the chronicle. As several have said...there's only 32 head coaches, 32 D-Coordinators, etc. and plenty of opportunity for them to chat. I don't think Kubiak, Smith, and McNair go in to this process with a 'let's just see what happens mentality.'

My guess is that before the firing they had already settled on an itemized DC list, and I would venture to guess that those coaches agents have already been...umm...nudged--regardless of league rules.

I would love to see DC: Sean McDermott along with DL: Ron Marinelli. I just can't imagine a better combination of defensive styles, position focus, and aggressiveness.

[cland]

Aww man, after writing the above post I happened across a post by AJ: http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...coach-position

Turns out he has a similar take...and he posted it earlier...which makes me appear to be a take-stealer....*poubt*

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by cland

Aww man, after writing the above post I happened across a post by AJ: http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...coach-position

Turns out he has a similar take...and he posted it earlier...which makes me appear to be a take-stealer....*poubt*

That's definitely a possibility. I guess I just don't understand the whole "DC search" charade if they have already settled on Bush as the DC.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by cland

Aww man, after writing the above post I happened across a post by AJ: http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...coach-position

Turns out he has a similar take...and he posted it earlier...which makes me appear to be a take-stealer....*poubt*

That's OK. That about somes up my "take" as well....even though I hate that term because Jim Rome is a D-bag.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Mike

As long as the Iggles are still playing, then they cannot contact him. Once they are done, then they can request permission to interview him.

Hopefully he is the main target and that is why talk has been scarce. We are just waiting for him to get eliminated. Cmon Giants kick some ass this week.

[teufelhunden]

Thanks for the insight gentlemen. I like Bush but was on the fence about his DC ascension. I do not know his chemistry in the locker room and I wonder if by hiring him we are sending the right signals to our D. We need drastic improvement from that side of the ball. I dont know if that change can come from someone associated with the old D. While the choice of Bush is wrought with danger, wholesale changes to the staff is also risky.

I had a Sgt. Major who always said " If you are going to be a bear, Be a grizzly bear." So my choice would be someone outside the circle. Obviously someone who employs a defense that can utilize the players we have. As we have seen, They can be effective when the are aggressive.

Whomever is selected had better be aggressive, starting in the draft. A rock in the middle of our D-line would do wonders for the rest of it. As would a Taylor Mays type Safety. IMHO.

Thanks again.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by teufelhunden

I had a Sgt. Major who always said " If you are going to be a bear, Be a grizzly bear." So my choice would be someone outside the circle. Obviously someone who employs a defense that can utilize the players we have.

I dunno, but it also seems like perverse logic to me to modify the composition of the defensive personnel to conform to the philosophy of assistant coachs instead of vice versa and supplimenting what we've got thru the Draft.
BTW I like the jarhead expression about the bear, but why can't we find a grizz within the circle ?

[teufelhunden]

"BTW I like the jarhead expression about the bear, but why can't we find a grizz within the circle ?"

I feel if we would have had a real grizz on that staff he would have bitten someone. At least he would have raised more sand than anyone did.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by mussop

Cmon Giants kick some ass this week.

The other side of the coin is perhaps we go after one of the Giants assistants. Perhaps someone has had Spags rub off on them.

Andre Curtis - Def QC (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=21

Peter Giunta - Secondary/Cornerbacks (Previous DC of Rams SuperBowl team)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=20

David Merritt - Secondary/Safeties (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=12

Bill Sheridan - Linebackers (Lots of college experience)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=11

Mike Waufle - DLine (Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, Strahan, Cofield productive under him)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=14

I'd consider any of these guys as legitimate candidates.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by Roy P

The other side of the coin is perhaps we go after one of the Giants assistants. Perhaps someone has had Spags rub off on them.

Andre Curtis - Def QC (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=21

Peter Giunta - Secondary/Cornerbacks (Previous DC of Rams SuperBowl team)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=20

David Merritt - Secondary/Safeties (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=12

Bill Sheridan - Linebackers (Lots of college experience)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=11

Mike Waufle - DLine (Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, Strahan, Cofield productive under him)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=14

I'd consider any of these guys as legitimate candidates.

Just to brush up on league rules, could we have asked for permission to speak with any of these guys during the bye week? I thought I saw where a couple teams asked for permission to speak with Spags during the bye week and my recollection is that you can do this if it would be a promotion. I also seem to remember that it had to be one of the teams with a bye (thus, we couldn't ask to speak with McDermott). Anybody know the rules on this?

[bckey]

Originally Posted by Roy P

The other side of the coin is perhaps we go after one of the Giants assistants. Perhaps someone has had Spags rub off on them.

Andre Curtis - Def QC (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=21

Peter Giunta - Secondary/Cornerbacks (Previous DC of Rams SuperBowl team)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=20

David Merritt - Secondary/Safeties (Young guy)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=12

Bill Sheridan - Linebackers (Lots of college experience)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=11

Mike Waufle - DLine (Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, Strahan, Cofield productive under him)
http://www.giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=14

I'd consider any of these guys as legitimate candidates.

I really don't like any of those guys for dc except for maybe Merritt. Sean McDermott is really about the only position coach I could see coming in as dc at this time besides our own Bush who I really don't want either. Other than that I think they will go with a proven dc.

Curtis is way too inexperienced for the jump to dc.

Giunta is probably the most qualified of the bunch but do the Rams really conjur up memories of an aggressive and good defense

Merritt is interesting but I would still take McDermott over him just because of his long tenure under Jim Johnson.

Sheridan needs a little more NFL experience before making the jump to dc imo.

Waufle looks like from his resume he is a dl coach for life. We don't want another Marinelli.

[Joshua]

It's being reported that Marinelli decided to join the Bears. Not a big surprise, but the Texans can scratch him off.

[bckey]

Originally Posted by Joshua

It's being reported that Marinelli decided to join the Bears. Not a big surprise, but the Texans can scratch him off.

No surprise due to his ties with Lovie.

[nero THE zero]

Here's LZ's take on the personnel for a Tampa-2

Bulman isn't quick enough to be a 1-gap DT. He's a try-hard DE which is fine, but not a starter. Deljuan is okay and if Okoye can play, he'll be okay too. Cochran is also depth, but like Bulman, I just don't see him a starter on a defensive line that needs to get up the field. Look at the Bears, Colts and Bucs teams of the late 90's up to about 2004. Those teams have faster DEs and 3-techniques that are very disruptive (not so much with the Colts as with the other two teams). Those teams are the model.

I think DeMeco could pull off being an MLB as well, but an upgrade over Diles and potentially Adibi would be nice. Speed isn't the only thing, but you would at least like for your LBs to have very good quickness and to be able to diagnose exceptionally quickly.

The front 7 means everything to a cover 2. The CBs don't have to have great speed, but they need to have instincts and be able to tackle while the safeties need to have the same traits. Everything happens with the front 7 and it is imperative that your front 4 can get pressure on the QB without having to blitz. I don't see that being the case with the bunch they have right now.