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Old 12-23-2008, 02:07 PM
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I don't like that we are characterized as "sucked". We may not meet certain peoples criteria, but we certainly don't suck! Certain players and coaches need to be weeded out, and I am sure they will be. Right now we are what we are, average. That is a heck of lot better than what we were.
I understand, "suck" may be a bit of an overexaggeration but mediocre, average, underacheivers, and less than par are pretty close to defining where we are right now. And as far as us being better than we were, I disagree. 7-8. We can only hope to be as good as we were last year. Because in the end it all boils down to wins.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:49 AM
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I understand, "suck" may be a bit of an overexaggeration but mediocre, average, underacheivers, and less than par are pretty close to defining where we are right now. And as far as us being better than we were, I disagree. 7-8. We can only hope to be as good as we were last year. Because in the end it all boils down to wins.
I disagree with part of your statement. As far as record goes, you are correct in that we can only equal last year; however, I feel this team is better than last years team. The only way we would really know that is for them to play each other, and that is impossible. I do believe that this years team would win if they were to play. We have improved OL play, a better running back, and better qb play from Schaub. The D. well, talking about that makes me cry. Anyway, we can be a better team but have a 7-9 or 8-8 record. All things aren't equal since we aren't playing the same teams, injuries, etc, so I think we have to see if there is improvement or not. I feel that the Offense has made great strides, and the D has to be addressed. If we find another play maker on Offense, and someone who can help us in the red zone, we could become one of the elite offenses in the NFL. That is a long way from the Caper days. Who knows what our D could be with a great S in the backfield and a pass rusher. I am cautiously optimistic about next year.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:09 PM
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You're right, we're still mediocre, but we're right there on the verge of being a good, playoff caliber team. The fact of the matter is that we're a very young team with young coaches that are still learning how to win in this league. Now, no one is happy with the way the season turned out, but as we saw in the packers and tacks games, we're finally starting to make the one to three plays that turn tough losses into wins. Even in the Raiders debacle, Amobi, of all people, forced an extremely clutch turnover, only to have the wind taken out of our sails by boneheaded playcalling. I know that can easily be turned into "see? we still suck," but given our position, i see it as a positive. Even our craptacular defense is starting to make plays. How can that be anything but good? Sure, we still need help on both sides of the ball, but an offseason of work on redzone offense, a solid draft, and maybe a free agent or two on the defensive side of the ball, and we have all the tools to be a playoff team. Just a slight reversal of fortune in the early going of the year, namely the rosencopter game and the game at jacksonville, and we come into the raider game fighting for a playoff spot. There is a lot of room for optimism here, going forward, whether you like it or not. I would've liked to have success sooner as well, but we've gotta face the fact that we essentially started over. we'll get there, just be a little more patient.
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Old 12-28-2008, 03:43 PM
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We don't suck, we were just a very inconsitant team this year. On to the 2009 Draft, and the first playoff year.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:58 AM
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Nice solid win the end the season. Amazing that the number of people who come to the board and post is so much less after a win.
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:24 AM
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I agree we don't suck. We had third best offense. Likely defense was ok after the first 6 games or so, once we stopped all the turnovers on offense.

We are still a young team, lots of guys in new positions thus the in consistency, but consistency has been improving. I thought Matt Schaub matured a lot these last 8 games.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:21 PM
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I thought Matt Schaub matured a lot these last 8 games.
Matured...that is the proper word.


I agree with this statement. I feel that could be said for many on this team this year as opposed to last year. There are far more positives to pull from this year compared to last year.
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