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Old 04-28-2023, 08:48 PM
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Caserio proving he is willing to pay the price to move up for the players that he, Ryans, and the team wants. Damn the trade charts... go get your guys. Power moves. I'm not going to cry over the extra picks... Can't have a roster with 30 rookies on it next year.

The new OL is solidifying. The combo of a rookie C to go with a rookie QB is a tad concerning though.

LT: Laremy Tunsil
LG: Kenyon Green
C: Juice Scruggs
RG: Shaq Mason
RT: Tytus Howard
TE: Dalton Schultz

And the WR room is getting better.

Nico Collins
Robert Woods
John Metchie
Tank Dell

Stroud to Collins will be sweet assuming Collins can stay healthy for a full season. Have to like the potential now for how Dell becomes the peanut butter to Nico's chocolate.
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Old 04-28-2023, 09:51 PM
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I agree, I'm OK with using significant draft capital to get the guys you want if you can. My concern is that I heard that the team wanted to go with Anderson at 2 and sort the QB situation out as it shook out, and they got overruled by ownership. Perhaps someone who knows will confirm or correct what I heard, but if there's any truth to that, that's not good.

On the other hand, if Demeco really wanted Stroud and Anderson (I'm pretty sure he really wanted Anderson, obviously), then fine. I'm not all that worked up by the steep cost.
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Old 04-29-2023, 12:52 AM
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Since Easterby was dismissed, it seems as if it has been far more difficult to get info and insight to what is happening in the room where it happens on Kirby. These media narratives are increasingly just that... stories. The media craves a narrative, and the Texans aren't giving them out anymore. There's dead air and empty columns still to fill though, so we get whoknowswhat to fill that space.

Cal has said today even that he stepped back in the draft process versus his level of involvement in hiring the head coach.
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There has been much speculated about the McNair family’s involvement with the draft. I asked Cal McNair about it. His answer lines up with what I’d heard from multiple people in the weeks leading up to the draft.
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"I was a little less involved than in the coaching search because that's the (specialty) of these guys," McNair said. "It wasn't last month that they woke up and started looking at Will Anderson or C.J. They'd been watching them for years, literally years. So, they really know them so well. ... There's so much that goes into it that you've got to let these guys do their job, and they did it yesterday."
https://twitter.com/BKubena/status/1...302592/photo/1

So one can be skeptical that Cal is being honest here, but I tend to believe him and not all the other media cultivated narratives. Cal's dad had the same philosphy, for better or worse. Why wouldn't Cal? Of course Cal may have an opinion on what player he likes and how to get it done - we all have an opinion - but ultimately I don't think he levied any sort of veto power or overruling here.

What little we've seen in the war room and of how this draft has so far played out seems to me that Caserio and Ryans are aligned and McNair is happy to see what they can do together. The picks this weekend are just the results... the real narrative consists of the firing of Easterby, the trading of Watson, and the hiring of Ryans.

Side note on Brooks, who I think has done a really nice job since he began covering this beat... he mentioned he was 12 during the 2006 draft (Mario-VY-Bush)... and man it made me feel old.

But that analogy - that drafting Stroud and Anderson might have been like getting both Mario and Vince, just really helps to encapsulate how unique Thursday was not just for the Texans but for the league. The only other times the same team has had two of the first three picks was '00 (Arrington/Samuels) and '92 (Emtman/Coryatt). The Texans did this with the two most important positions on the field, one on each side of the ball in the passer and the pass rusher. Have to admire the boldness if nothing else.
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Old 04-29-2023, 09:00 AM
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I listened to Lance Zierlein yesterday. He felt like Anderson was their pick at #2 but the decision was made, probably fairly late in the process, that they couldn’t come away without a QB so they paid the price to get both.

The Falcons were also trying to move up to get Anderson at #3, so that pushed the price up. If the Texans had taken Anderson at #2, they’d have been bidding against the Titans for #3 because Tennessee would have been trying to get Stroud. He said the Colts were locked in on Richardson.

As for the actual picks, he thinks Stroud was clearly the best QB available after Young and a great fit for the offense — a highly accurate, rhythm passer who can hit receivers in stride. Anderson brings great leadership in addition to the on-the-field ability and should help set the tone that DeMeco wants in the locker room.

It was a high price but I agree that they got two premium players at premium positions and hopefully they won’t be in as good of a position to do that again anytime soon. If they saw a steep drop off in talent on the board that would also weigh in favor of making the move.
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:15 AM
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Texans trade out of their first two picks in the fourth round just before the selections begin on Day 3.

Texans send 104 (4th) & 203 (6th) to the Raiders for 109 (4th) and 174 (5th)

Texans send 105 (4th) to the Eagles for a 2024 Third Rounder

So here's where they stand today:

Round 4·Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
Round 5-Pick 39 (174) COMPENSATORY LVR>HOU
Round 6·Pick 14 (191) LAR>HOU
Round 6·Pick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7·Pick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:32 AM
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Texans again stay in state with their fourth rounder to select DE Dylan Horton from TCU.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1·Pick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1·Pick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2·Pick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3·Pick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU

Round 5-Pick 39 (174) COMPENSATORY LVR>HOU
Round 6·Pick 14 (191) LAR>HOU
Round 6·Pick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7·Pick 42 (259) COMPENSATORY
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Old 04-29-2023, 03:08 PM
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Guess what, the Texans traded up again, and this is a fun one. They selected Alabama LB Henry To'oTo'o.

The team sent 174 and 259 to the Rams for 167. That means no Mr. Irrelevant.

They've also traded 191 to the Eagles for 230 and 248.

QB C.J. Stroud - Round 1·Pick 2 (2)
DE Will Anderson, Jr. - Round 1·Pick 3 (3) ARI>HOU
C Juice Scruggs - Round 2·Pick 31 (62) PHI>HOU
WR Tank Dell - Round 3·Pick 6 (69) LAR>HOU
DE Dylan Horton - Round 4-Pick 7 (109) LVR>HOU
LB Henry To'oTo'o - Round 5-Pick 32 (167) COMPENSATORY LAR>HOU

Round 6·Pick 24 (201) MIN>HOU
Round 7·Pick 13 (230) NYJ>TAM>HOU>PHI>HOU
Round 7·Pick 31 (248) PHI>HOU
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Old 04-30-2023, 08:33 AM
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I agree, I'm OK with using significant draft capital to get the guys you want if you can. My concern is that I heard that the team wanted to go with Anderson at 2 and sort the QB situation out as it shook out, and they got overruled by ownership. Perhaps someone who knows will confirm or correct what I heard, but if there's any truth to that, that's not good.

On the other hand, if Demeco really wanted Stroud and Anderson (I'm pretty sure he really wanted Anderson, obviously), then fine. I'm not all that worked up by the steep cost.
Well you know Chuck it's kinda like when you bought that Lamborghini just to park in front of your house to impress all of your snotty-nosed River Oaks neighbors.
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