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Old 05-01-2019, 02:20 PM
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Howard and Sharping were not "my guys" but I'll defer to the professionals who watch tape and interview these guys.

The problem with taking so many small school and "projects" is that you have no idea if they would perform at the NFL level. You get a guy from the SEC and it's like going from AA ball to the majors. You take a guy from the smaller schools and it is like going from Rookie ball to the majors. There's a huge transition and most of them won't even be close to ready as rookies but *may* be capable in year two or three.

Remember Seth Wand? The third-round tackle from some directional school that Casserly fell in love with at the Senior Bowl. He had the unrefined skills to be a left tackle but he didn't have the mental toughness to be an NFL player. That's the risk you take.

So, I can't call this a bad draft as much as I would call it a "wishful" draft.
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Old 05-01-2019, 02:49 PM
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The Texans need OL that will keep Deshaun from being mauled again next year. If they cannot field an OL in 2019 that is not terrible, they have failed the offseason, miserably.
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Old 05-01-2019, 05:01 PM
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If Watson threw the ball a half second quicker like most NFL QBs then the Texans OL would look much better and would give up a league average amount of sacks. The only decent QBs to hold it near as long as him are Wilson, Prescott, and Rodgers. Not coincidentally, the 5 most sacked QBs are Watson, Prescott, Wilson, Carr, and Rodgers (Somehow Carr had the quickest trigger and the 4th most sacks, a truly terrible display of blocking).

Tons of Watson's sacks come because he refused to throw the ball away in situations that would make every QB in the league throw it away. But tons of his great plays came because he refused to throw the ball away. Both of those things are on him for better and worse.

He is the best player on our team, one of the best QBs in the league, and has unlimited upside, but the OL was not primarily behind him getting sacked so much last year.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:38 AM
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He is the best player on our team, one of the best QBs in the league, and has unlimited upside, but the OL was not primarily behind him getting sacked so much last year.
Not only was last year's OL the worst in team history, most of the year Deshaun was working with one receiver.
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:26 AM
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Not only was last year's OL the worst in team history, most of the year Deshaun was working with one receiver.
You're simply being absurd if you think the OL was worse than year 1 and David Carr. You forget this is a franchise that makes 'worst in team history' mean something.

And yes the receiving corp after Fuller went down was embarrassing. The RB group wasn't much better.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:54 PM
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You're simply being absurd if you think the OL was worse than year 1 and David Carr. You forget this is a franchise that makes 'worst in team history' mean something.

And yes the receiving corp after Fuller went down was embarrassing. The RB group wasn't much better.
First five years Texans offensive ranking (points per game): 32nd, 28th, 21st, 26th, 28th (aka the "Carr years")

Last five Texans offensive ranking (points per game): 14th, 21st, 28th, 17th, 11th.

Draw you own conclusions.

I agree the current offensive line is terrible and upgrading it should have been the top priority of the offseason. I also agree that they are nowhere near as bad as the Carr Years.
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Old 05-02-2019, 05:36 PM
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First five years Texans offensive ranking (points per game): 32nd, 28th, 21st, 26th, 28th (aka the "Carr years")

Last five Texans offensive ranking (points per game): 14th, 21st, 28th, 17th, 11th.

Draw you own conclusions.

I agree the current offensive line is terrible and upgrading it should have been the top priority of the offseason. I also agree that they are nowhere near as bad as the Carr Years.
Julian Davenport vs Seth Wand: who you got ?
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Old 05-01-2019, 05:06 PM
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Howard and Sharping were not "my guys" but I'll defer to the professionals who watch tape and interview these guys.

The problem with taking so many small school and "projects" is that you have no idea if they would perform at the NFL level. You get a guy from the SEC and it's like going from AA ball to the majors. You take a guy from the smaller schools and it is like going from Rookie ball to the majors. There's a huge transition and most of them won't even be close to ready as rookies but *may* be capable in year two or three.

Remember Seth Wand? The third-round tackle from some directional school that Casserly fell in love with at the Senior Bowl. He had the unrefined skills to be a left tackle but he didn't have the mental toughness to be an NFL player. That's the risk you take.

So, I can't call this a bad draft as much as I would call it a "wishful" draft.
Of the 10 All-Pro OL last year guess how many played in the SEC. Hint, it's the same amount as played in the SWAC.
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