Texans Interested in QB Brock Osweiler [UPDATE: Reached Agreement]

[WMH]

You guys need to remember, we're in lying season. No one but the team and the player knows the truth behind any of these "reports."

If he shows up at a Houston airport, then I'll believe there is interest. Till then, I'm going to assume the agents are trying to create a market.

[HPF Bob]

Not mine but I just had to share this:

The Saga of Brock Osweiler: A High-School Romance:


You take your girl to the big dance. You're not really sure about her. She's asked you before whether you're ready to "get serious and plan our future together" but you always put her off. Not really ready to commit. She's a nice enough girl, but you've got some questions about her. She might have a few short-comings. Do I really want to commit to her long-term? Am I ready for that? And is she really long-term relationship material?

But, then you get to the dance and you look around and GOd damn! There's some ugly looking girls standing against the wall! One of them's got a hair lip, one's got a raging personality defect and just punched a guy in the face who asked her to dance, and the rest are in various stages of short and lumpy.

And you think: "Damn! I better keep the girl I'm with! She might not turn out to be great, but compared with what's out there she's looking pretty good right now!"

But, there's a bunch of horny single guys at the dance, all eyeing your date. And then this rich guy from Texas and another one from L.A. and another one from Cleveland come over and start sweet talking your girl and you realize that, forget about finding a better option, you're going to have a fight on your hands just to keep the girl you've already got!

And you turn to her and say "you and me baby! I think you're awesome! Let's go steady!"

But she says: "not so fast! I asked you three months ago and you never gave me an answer. You made me wait all the way to the big dance, and now I'm going to explore my options! Rick Smith here from Houston says he's going to take me on an all expense trip to the Cayman Islands and buy me a car! I just might go with him!"

And what do you say? "I was planning to tell you tonight! You and I are going to the Caymans! All expenses paid. What do you say?"

And she says: "Well, what about the car? Is it a nice car? Cause Rick here promised me a Mercedes coupe!"

Moral of the story? If you aren't willing to lock her up early. If you wait until the big dance, it isn't about how great your girl is any more. The real question is going to be: "what are the alternatives?" Are they really any better? Or are you just going to wind up taking one of the hair-lip girls on that all expenses paid trip to the Caymans?

[Keith]

Texans have reached an agreement with Osweiler.

Time to see the terms next...

[chuck]

If I try hard enough I can find a way to defend this. He's not a rookie and at the very least you know he can play some. A couple of the rookies coming out this year will probably be very good in a few years and a couple will flame out entirely. The Texans minimize the risk of a total flameout in exchange for giving the guy veteran money. I might not have done things this way but as I said I can find a way to defend it.

Also, it gives the team the freedom to go BPA at every point in the draft. And since it looks like they're going to come away with Miller, too, they have tons of options.

[Keith]

The Texans have a championship defense NOW. So I think Osweiler is totally defendable as a signing vs. put all your eggs in what might be the 3rd or 4th QB drafted if the Texans sit at #22 overall.

This is a move that recognizes the Texans are not willing to waste any more of J.J. Watt's career with the Hoyer's, Fitzy Cent's, and Mallett's of the league.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Keith

The Texans have a championship defense NOW. So I think Osweiler is totally defendable as a signing vs. put all your eggs in what might be the 3rd or 4th QB drafted if the Texans sit at #22 overall.

Those are also my thoughts because of courses there's unknowns and uncertainty with Osweiler but not nearly as much as with the best QB we could have got in this years Draft.
They just announced that Brooks signed for 40m over 5 years with Philly.
No doubt that the OLine is now the top priority in the Draft.

[HPF Bob]

Denver media reporting Osweiler deal is 4-yr, $72 million with $37 million guaranteed. Broncos would not go higher then $16mil/yr with $30 million guaranteed.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by chuck

If I try hard enough I can find a way to defend this. He's not a rookie and at the very least you know he can play some. A couple of the rookies coming out this year will probably be very good in a few years and a couple will flame out entirely. The Texans minimize the risk of a total flameout in exchange for giving the guy veteran money. I might not have done things this way but as I said I can find a way to defend it.

Welp. Shows what I know. We'd already seen that he was so historically bad as a Texan that they sold the farm to get Cleveland to take him out of the building. And apparently he is so terrible that the team with arguably the worst quarterback situation in the history of the modern NFL over the last 25 years can't use him.

Let that sink in for a minute. McNeck and Ricky pooled their collective intellectual prowess and gave $37 million dollars to a guy that not only can't win the Browns starting job, he can't even make the fking team. Unreal.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

Welp. Shows what I know. We'd already seen that he was so historically bad as a Texan that they sold the farm to get Cleveland to take him out of the building. And apparently he is so terrible that the team with arguably the worst quarterback situation in the history of the modern NFL over the last 25 years can't use him.

Let that sink in for a minute. McNeck and Ricky pooled their collective intellectual prowess and gave $37 million dollars to a guy that not only can't win the Browns starting job, he can't even make the fking team. Unreal.

He must have a terrible attitude. If he was a tiny bit professional he'd be the backup.

[Arky]

He kinda reminds me of Eddie Haskell from the old Leave it to Beaver show.

He should never have to work a day for the rest of his life if he invests his money wisely.....

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

He must have a terrible attitude. If he was a tiny bit professional he'd be the backup.

I'm sure you've read everything I've read on him. What I've concluded is that his confidence is shot (I initially mistyped that with an i which basically amounts to the same thing) and that once he decided that he couldn't read defenses he was just about done.

It makes me wonder. I had lots of problems with Kubiak, but as Pickett's signature attests, I obviously think had a way with quarterbacks. BOB, the supposed quarterback guru, well, let's just say the jury's still out on that one. I'm pretty sure if you put me in a room with Brady for half an hour I'd walk out of there a mfing quarterback guru, too.

From what I've gathered Brock was soft and he lost his confidence. I suppose that can happen to a guy. But, I don't know, that sort of sounds like a 6th round flyer more than a $40 million dollar man.

Anyhoo, the Texans are all set now with a guy who can't stay healthy and a guy who can't hit a target. I will say that from what I've seen Watson's arm strength does not seem to be an issue. He has plenty of arm strength to throw it right the fk over any receiver who happens to be running around in the defensive secondary. So we can dispose of that particular issue.

You gentlemen will have to excuse me. I'm about to
climb into my helicopter and embark on a journey to my
valley finca for a quick cheese tasting. I have some fresh pressed olive
oil and some young white to evaluate, also. I'm sure you
understand, you're all men of the world, especially nunu.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by WMH

You guys need to remember, we're in lying season. No one but the team and the player knows the truth behind any of these "reports."

If he shows up at a Houston airport, then I'll believe there is interest. Till then, I'm going to assume the agents are trying to create a market.

I stand corrected. Guess they really were interested....

The clock is now ticking on B'OB.

[HPF Bob]

One comment:

"Manning shadow, Elway town, he's going to get his chance to be the man in HOU."

[barrett]

I don't like who we picked or what we paid him. I do like that BOB has finally picked his QB and we have a chance to do something other than spin our wheels. Hopefully he is not Matt Flynn. I really want to be wrong.

[WMH]

Appears to be structured like a 2 year deal.

From Aaron Wilson :
Brock Osweiler: $72M, $37M gtd, $12M signing bonus, salaries $4M, $16M, $18M, $13M
Brock Osweiler has $5 million roster bonus on March 16, $4M base salary in 2016 fully guaranteed along with $16M 2017 base
LaConfora:
Brock Osweiler's deal with Texans includes all the guar $ in 1st 2yrs. $21M in '16 ($17M in bonus and $4M salary) and a $16M guar base in 17

[Keith]

AaronWilson_NFL
Brock Osweiler: $72M, $37M gtd, $12M signing bonus, salaries $4M, $16M, $18M, $13M

https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/...49976726568960

Brock Osweiler has $5 million roster bonus on March 16, $4M base salary in 2016 fully guaranteed along with $16M 2017 base

All of the guaranteed money is in the first two years, so the Texans can pull the ripcord after 2017 if necessary.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

I don't like who we picked or what we paid him. I do like that BOB has finally picked his QB and we have a chance to do something other than spin our wheels. Hopefully he is not Matt Flynn. I really want to be wrong.

We paid approximately a 20 % premium over what the Broncos "could" pay him and they might have been willing to go higher had they had the cap to
do it. I got NP with that and now we have all of our Draft picks in place instead of using them on a bigger unknown QB in the Draft - it's what's known as having your cake and eating it too.
And due to unusually large cojones Rick Smith may have difficulty getting thru his office door this morning after the deal he pulled over John Elway, but as mentioned Smith had the ammo(cap) to do the deal. But it's a big deal snatching this young NFL vet QB away from Elway and the defending SB champs.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

We paid approximately a 20 % premium over what the Broncos "could" pay him and they might have been willing to go higher had they had the cap to
do it. I got NP with that and now we have all of our Draft picks in place instead of using them on a bigger unknown QB in the Draft - it's what's known as having your cake and eating it too.
And due to unusually large cojones Rick Smith may have difficulty getting thru his office door this morning after the deal he pulled over John Elway, but as mentioned Smith had the ammo(cap) to do the deal. But it's a big deal snatching this young NFL vet QB away from Elway and the defending SB champs.

We didn't snatch him away. He was Denver's if they wanted him. They chose not to offer him market value. We got him by paying more, not by sweet talking him away. And consider that Denver allowed him to walk without another QB on the roster.

Either way we are paying big time proven QB money for a guy who has less starting time than last year's rookies. Paying a guy with almost no experience or track record like a guy who has experience and track record is not called having your cake and eating it too.

QB A - 62%, 246 ypg, 1.3 TDpg, .8 INTpg, 86.4 rating
QB B - 61%, 246 ypg, 1.7 TDpg, .6 INTpg, 91.4 rating

Can you guess which of those QBs is Brian Hoyer and which of those QBs is getting paid $18 million per year?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

We didn't snatch him away. He was Denver's if they wanted him. They chose not to offer him market value. We got him by paying more, not by sweet talking him away. And consider that Denver allowed him to walk without another QB on the roster.

Either way we are paying big time proven QB money for a guy who has less starting time than last year's rookies. Paying a guy with almost no experience or track record like a guy who has experience and track record is not called having your cake and eating it too.

QB A - 62%, 246 ypg, 1.3 TDpg, .8 INTpg, 86.4 rating
QB B - 61%, 246 ypg, 1.7 TDpg, .6 INTpg, 91.4 rating

Can you guess which of those QBs is Brian Hoyer and which of those QBs is getting paid $18 million per year?

Oh they wanted him though likly their pockets weren't deep enough to retain him, to afford him. Do I wish we could have gotten him for less ? Sure I wish we could trade a couple mid-round picks to GB for Aaron Rogers. I wish I could have bought my house for less, but I love it here and it's home now. Sometimes one just has to stick their head into it and do it. Kudos to the Texans for making this really big move here.
ne;This is a lot better than coughing up several Draft picks (maybe including multiple 1st rounders) for a college QB with not a single snap of training camp experience.

[Arky]

Well. We now have a coach and a QB with the initials "BO". I would not stoop to make a bush league joke here...... nope, not a sniff...

Goodness, this changes a lot of things.... Texans must've been planning it for a while what with the loss of the two linemen. Curious to see if the Denver/Houston connection remains amiable from now on....

One good thing.... Hoyer's gone.