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Old 02-13-2016, 04:44 PM
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As I am reviewing tape, mocking, comparing Combine measurables the list will get tweaked. I may warm up to the idea of adding players to the list or removing if I don't like the perceived value. Currently I am considering Darron Lee and Jaylon Smith. Yet, not sure I want to draft an ILB to replace Cushing with a 1st round pick. Now, if one of them runs a 4.47 and Benches 30 times, I might change my mind. I am all over the place on Dak Prescott. I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at #22, but if I'm the only one who feels like that and I could get him in the 3rd round after selecting the best TE and RB to go with him, that would be foolish. So, I need to establish his value. I also need to determine if Lynch or Cook would be an upgrade over Savage next season.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:44 AM
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As I am reviewing tape, mocking, comparing Combine measurables the list will get tweaked. I may warm up to the idea of adding players to the list or removing if I don't like the perceived value. Currently I am considering Darron Lee and Jaylon Smith. Yet, not sure I want to draft an ILB to replace Cushing with a 1st round pick. Now, if one of them runs a 4.47 and Benches 30 times, I might change my mind. I am all over the place on Dak Prescott. I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at #22, but if I'm the only one who feels like that and I could get him in the 3rd round after selecting the best TE and RB to go with him, that would be foolish. So, I need to establish his value. I also need to determine if Lynch or Cook would be an upgrade over Savage next season.
When I looked at your list I was surprised you had Dak at 26. IMO the QB positions is so important, and we need a solid guy at that position. So if you think Dak is the guy, you have to rate him above some of the other positions/players you have ranked above him.

And as you state, if you (or the Texans) are the only team ranking him that high, who are you missing out on?

I am torn also. One thing I do know right now, I am not on the Hackenberg in the 2nd round bandwagon. If he falls far enough maybe, but the young man has showed very little the last two years. And I am tired of seeing mocks with him in the 2nd and Ezekiel Elliott in the 1st.

I notice you don't have Ezekiel Elliott on your list, what are your misgivings with him?
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Old 02-14-2016, 02:31 PM
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I'm probably going to rank Dak Prescott high enough to select in the 2nd round. The problem is that I really want to take Kenneth Dixon too. I'm not sure that I can have both. I don't like the idea of drafting a RB in the 1st round unless his name is Adrian Peterson. I got burned on Melvin Gordon last year. The only reason I'm willing to spend a 2nd round pick on Dixon is because he has the size and speed to be an every-down back and he can catch passes out of the backfield. If I don't get him, I'll need to draft 2 RBs to replace Arian Foster. Maybe Aaron Green and Jonathan Williams. I don't have Elliott or Henry on my list because I feel like they are overweight and overvalued. Coming from those offenses behind those Offensive Lines, they had huge holes to run through. Hard to scout the vision and shiftiness of a RB who has 4 yards before a defender is close to tackle him.

I say this every year it seems, but if I could trade down and pick up another 3rd and 4th round pick I would be very happy.
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Old 02-14-2016, 03:54 PM
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I'm probably going to rank Dak Prescott high enough to select in the 2nd round. The problem is that I really want to take Kenneth Dixon too. I'm not sure that I can have both.
I agree with trying to get both these guys.

My problem is in knowing this is a deep defensive draft and we are needing to go offense. The deepest are is DL especially 1st round DL.

There are NT and DE types that would help the defense out.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:52 PM
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I agree with trying to get both these guys.

My problem is in knowing this is a deep defensive draft and we are needing to go offense. The deepest are is DL especially 1st round DL.

There are NT and DE types that would help the defense out.
I agree that there will be plenty of DL drafted the first 2 days. My favorite value pick to replace Jared Crick is Matt Ioannidis from Temple. The NT Jarran Reed is going to be special as will Deforest Buckner, but I don't think they last to #22. Butler is probably the 2nd round pick I pass on for a QB or RB. Maybe I look at Javon Hargrave, but most likely fit/value pick is D.J. Reader to take over for Wilfork.

The other thought I have is forgetting about my pipe dream of an "athletic QB" and wait for Kevin Hogan who would be a great fit for this system and they could potentially get him with a 4th or even 5th round pick.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:56 PM
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Rank Pos Name School Height Weight
1 QB Jared Goff California 6'4" 210
2 WR Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss 6'2" 210
3 DE DeForest Buckner Oregon 6'7" 290
4 QB Carson Wentz N.Dakota St 6'5" 233
5 NT Jarran Reed Alabama 6'3" 313
6 TE Hunter Henry Arkansas 6'5" 253
7 WR Michael Thomas Ohio St 6'3" 210
8 OT Jack Conklin Mighigan St 6'6" 318
9 OT Taylor Decker Ohio St 6'7" 315
10 QB Dak Prescott Miss State 6'2" 230
11 OT Shon Coleman Auburn 6'6" 313
12 OT Jason Spriggs Indiana 6'6" 305
13 ILB Darron Lee Ohio St 6'1" 235
14 ILB Jaylon Smith Notre Dame 6'3" 240
15 WR Josh Doctson TCU 6'2" 195
16 WR Tyler Boyd Pittsburgh 6'2" 200
17 RB Kenneth Dixon La Tech 5'10" 215
18 RB Devontae Booker Utah 5'11" 212
19 NT Vernon Butler La Tech 6'4" 325
20 RB Jordan Howard Indiana 6'1" 225
21 NT Austin Johnson Penn St 6'3" 325
22 FS Darian Thompson Boise St 6'2" 215
23 SS Miles Killebrew S. Utah 6'2" 223
24 SS Jeremy Cash Duke 6'1" 208
25 TE Austin Hooper Stanford 6'3" 248
26 RB Alex Collins Arkansas 5'11" 218
27 OG Joshua Garnett Stanford 6'5" 317
28 WR Braxton Miller Ohio St 6'1" 215
29 OLB Kyler Fackrell Utah St 6'5" 244
30 ILB Kentrell Brothers Missouri 6'1" 249
31 WR Sterling Shepard Oklahoma 5'10" 193
32 OG Cody Whitehair Kansas St 6'4" 309
33 SS Jayron Kearse Clemson 6'4" 220
34 TE Nick Vannett Ohio St 6'6" 256
35 DE Matt Ioannidis Temple 6'4" 303
36 NT Javon Hargrave S.Carolina St. 6'1" 315
37 OT John Theus Georgia 6'6" 305
38 CB Maurice Canady Virginia 6'1" 191
39 OG Christian Westerman Az St 6'3" 302
40 CB Cyrus Jones Alabama 5'10" 196
41 OT Kyle Murphy Stanford 6'7" 302
42 RB Kenyan Drake Alabama 6'0" 210
43 RB Jonathan Williams Arkansas 5'11" 223
44 DE Shawn Oakman Baylor 6'8" 276
45 WR Paul McRoberts SE Misouri St 6'2" 202
46 WR Aaron Burbridge Michigan St 6'1" 208
47 TE Jerell Adams S. Carolina 6'5" 244
48 TE Bryce Williams East Carolina 6'6" 260
49 QB Jacoby Brissett NC State 6'4" 236
50 RB Aaron Green TCU 5'11" 205
51 QB Kevin Hogan Stanford 6'3" 217
52 DE Jihad Ward Illinois 6'5" 296
53 CB Harlan Miller SE Louisiana St 6'0" 182
54 ILB Blake Martinez Stanford 6'2" 245
55 OLB James Crowser S. Utah 6'3" 258
56 NT D.J. Reader Clemson 6'3" 340
57 OT Cole Turner Harvard 6'5" 305
58 RB C.J. Prosise Notre Dame 6'1" 220
59 WR Malcolm Mitchell Georgia 5'11" 194
60 OLB Aziz Shittu Stanford 6'3" 279
61 SS Kevin Byard MidTenn St 5'11" 216
62 OLB Victor Ochi Stony Brook 6'1" 244
63 S Sean Davis Maryland 6'1" 201
64 TE Henry Krieger Coble Iowa 6'3" 248
65 RB Keenan Reynolds USNA 5'11" 195
66 QB Vernon Adams Jr. Oregon 5'11" 205
67 OG Joe Dahl Wash St 6'4" 299
68 SS Michael Caputo Wisconsin 6'0" 206
69 S Jamal Golden Ga Tech 5'11" 193
70 WR Jay Lee Baylor 6'2" 214
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Old 02-17-2016, 10:59 PM
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Note to self - move up Aaron Burbridge up my board
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Old 02-14-2016, 02:39 PM
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I'm probably going to rank Dak Prescott high enough to select in the 2nd round. The problem is that I really want to take Kenneth Dixon too. I'm not sure that I can have both. I don't like the idea of drafting a RB in the 1st round unless his name is Adrian Peterson. I got burned on Melvin Gordon last year. The only reason I'm willing to spend a 2nd round pick on Dixon is because he has the size and speed to be an every-down back and he can catch passes out of the backfield. If I don't get him, I'll need to draft 2 RBs to replace Arian Foster. Maybe Aaron Green and Jonathan Williams. I don't have Elliott or Henry on my list because I feel like they are overweight and overvalued. Coming from those offenses behind those Offensive Lines, they had huge holes to run through. Hard to scout the vision and shiftiness of a RB who has 4 yards before a defender is close to tackle him.

I say this every year it seems, but if I could trade down and pick up another 3rd and 4th round pick I would be very happy.
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