New Texans (FA/Trade)

[HPF Bob]

NFL Media reports the Texans are pursuing QB Brian Hoyer (Browns):

The Texans are eyeing former Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer as a top quarterback target in free agency, according to Jeff Darlington of NFL Media.

Hoyer played in 14 games for the Browns in 2014, throwing for 3,326 yards with 12 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He lost his starting position to Johnny Manziel in Week 15, but was forced back into action after Manziel suffered a season-ending injury. Hoyer, who has ties to his former New England coach and current coach of the Texans, Bill O'Brien.

Outside of the Texans, the Jets, Titans, Rams could all be looking to add a quarterback to the roster. Teams began talking to agents for players with expiring contracts starting at 12:00 p.m. ET on Saturday. However, no deals can be finalized until Tuesday, the first day of the new NFL calendar.

[Nconroe]

I'm hoping Texans can resign Brooks Reed. I think he was 12th in nfl in QB hits and QB hurries. Steady play and can play both inside and outside as well as special teams.

I'm glad Newton and Jackson resigned. Good players and help with consistency.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

I'm hoping Texans can resign Brooks Reed. I think he was 12th in nfl in QB hits and QB hurries. Steady play and can play both inside and outside as well as special teams.

I'm glad Newton and Jackson resigned. Good players and help with consistency.

Guess you missed the reports on the radio yesterday from Reed's agent that the Texans do not appear to be trying to resign Reed. Agents said that Reed was likely done as a Texan.

Doesn't mean he doesn't sign here much later if he doesn't get the type offer he is expecting.

And I am glad with the two big signing's, now I wonder if the shoe drops on J-Joe. Either a pay cut or out right release.

Also when does the AJ release happen? The money could come in handy.

Lastly please get Mallett under contract so we can sign a FA WR, or TE of note.

[chuck]

As I've said, Newton was borderline great last year. He was a crucial re-sign. I have no idea what he'll be like as a veteran in the first year of a new contract. I suppose we'll see how much he likes football.

And I do hope the team signs Hartline. Not because he's good, of course. He sucks. But so Bob has an impetus to grouse about his favorite play. That never gets old, just like the left handed quarterback.

[HPF Bob]

The guy I want re-signed is Ryan Pickett. The defense was demonstrably better once he played the middle. I know he's old so he shouldn't break the bank.

As for Newton and Jackson, similar stories. They were shitty for a few years and were (statistically at least) above average last year. So, why the improvement? Better coaching? Better focus? Contract years? The Texans gambled that they will still play at their 2014 levels instead of their 2012-13 levels. When you look at the markets at these positions, it's hard to argue with re-signing them but I sure hope the difference was better coaching.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

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As for Newton and Jackson, similar stories. They were shitty for a few years and were (statistically at least) above average last year. So, why the improvement? Better coaching? Better focus? Contract years? The Texans gambled that they will still play at their 2014 levels instead of their 2012-13 levels. When you look at the markets at these positions, it's hard to argue with re-signing them but I sure hope the difference was better coaching.

Whelp, looking back, IMO, KJ should have stayed in college for his final year but like a lot of young fellas, he couldn't resist the cash grab so he came out his junior year. In the NFL it seems, playing cornerback is one of the largest leaps (college --> NFL). Seen it many times: a young CB struggles only to eventually turn into a decent player. I remember during the height of his (KJ) struggles that Kubiak would answer the critics with a "yeah, but he's a tough kid" and that was needed during his rough early years. They put him a sink or swim situation and he looked bad all too often but eventually became a pretty good CB. It would have been a shame to let all that development/OJT hit the road....

Newton was somewhat similar: over his head early but received so much real game experience that he couldn't help but get better. He also played through injury quite often and I remember him limping at times, especially in 2013. Yet, the Texans kept trotting him out there..... I suppose because he was the best they had....

At any rate, I think you gotta call these two "core signings".....

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Arky

In the NFL it seems, playing cornerback is one of the largest leaps (college --> NFL). Seen it many times: a young CB struggles only to eventually turn into a decent player. I remember during the height of his (KJ) struggles that Kubiak would answer the critics with a "yeah, but he's a tough kid" and that was needed during his rough early years. They put him a sink or swim situation and he looked bad all too often but eventually became a pretty good CB......

Great observation. Every year there's "Lockdown" Corner in the draft who goes first round and disappoints. They're decent, but not like Revis. Antoine Cason is a FA this year who would fall into this example.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by chuck

And I do hope the team signs Hartline. Not because he's good, of course. He sucks. But so Bob has an impetus to grouse about his favorite play. That never gets old, just like the left handed quarterback.

Imagine if they draft Phillip Dorsett, that play might actually work.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Imagine if they draft Phillip Dorsett, that play might actually work.

Yep, in which case, the play will need to be renamed....

[WMH]

‏@AlbertBreer Per source, Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer is planning to sign with the Texans tomorrow.

@RapSheet Ex-#Browns QB Brian Hoyer plans to sign a multi-year deal with the #Texans, likely three years, I’m told. They plan to have Hoyer & Mallett

@JaysonBraddock Brian Hoyer's contract is expected to be 3 years and in the range of $12-14 million. Getting more due to playing experience.

Can't say I'm too excited about this one.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Also when does the AJ release happen? The money could come in handy.

IIRC, they don't have to be under the cap till Tuesday. They'll likely do it then.

Crazy activity today with teams signing their own. Sucks we didn't get a chance at Cobb. Can't blame him though. He's got another shot at a contract. Rodgers > Whatever We put out there.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

NFL Media reports the Texans are pursuing QB Brian Hoyer (Browns):

IMO, they're jacking with Mallett with this "leak."
Games people play this time of the year.

At least I hope so.....

I'd rather have the unknown with Mallett than the known with Hoyer.