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Old 03-03-2015, 02:02 AM
barrett barrett is offline
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It puts the Fitzpatrick deal so many complained about into perspective.

As for what it means for Mallet, not that much. Mallett is neither a veteran nor a mentor. That means no team is going to sign him to a deal bigger than (or even as big as) McCown, unless it is to be the starter. McCown got guaranteed money for the same reason Fitz did, if they start that's ok, but if they don't, they still fit and have value. Mallett is not going to mentor a young kid with his 50 career attempts. He plays or he has no value.

And nobody is likely to make him option 1A other than us. If you are another team you can draft a rookie on the 2nd/3rd day who is just as proven and gets paid nothing for the next 3-4 years.

Plus I think we are the only team running a NE offense except NE, and they are set at both QBs.

I seriously don't think Mallett has half as much value to anyone else as he has to us. I wouldn't be surprised by a 1-2 year deal where he bets on himself to win the job and get paid 5 times more a year from now.
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:04 AM
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It puts the Fitzpatrick deal so many complained about into perspective.

As for what it means for Mallet, not that much. Mallett is neither a veteran nor a mentor. That means no team is going to sign him to a deal bigger than (or even as big as) McCown, unless it is to be the starter. McCown got guaranteed money for the same reason Fitz did, if they start that's ok, but if they don't, they still fit and have value. Mallett is not going to mentor a young kid with his 50 career attempts. He plays or he has no value.

And nobody is likely to make him option 1A other than us. If you are another team you can draft a rookie on the 2nd/3rd day who is just as proven and gets paid nothing for the next 3-4 years.

Plus I think we are the only team running a NE offense except NE, and they are set at both QBs.

I seriously don't think Mallett has half as much value to anyone else as he has to us. I wouldn't be surprised by a 1-2 year deal where he bets on himself to win the job and get paid 5 times more a year from now.
Disagree with what it means for Mallett. McCown has zero upside. None, and just about every one knows it. Mallett is an unknown, similar to a draft pick but has a couple of years of league experience. In a QB starved league, I'd bet GM's would rather roll the dice with a Mallett than a McCown type.

Guessing we will see for sure in the next couple of weeks.
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Old 03-03-2015, 09:10 AM
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Disagree with what it means for Mallett. McCown has zero upside. None, and just about every one knows it. Mallett is an unknown, similar to a draft pick but has a couple of years of league experience. In a QB starved league, I'd bet GM's would rather roll the dice with a Mallett than a McCown type.

Guessing we will see for sure in the next couple of weeks.
I think he has far more upside than McCown. I just don't think he will get top end backup money, that goes to caretaker/mentor types who can start but who can also be happy and productive in the background.

And I don't think any GM is going to hook their wagon to him in a big time deal when they could just go to the draft and spend a late pick and none of the money.

So he either signs a deal as part of a poo poo platter of QBs somewhere (a team gets 3-4 mediocre ones and lets them fight it out), or he re-signs here with an inside track. The guy was shopped for the whole preseason last year and we got him for a 7th because nobody else wanted him. Then he played one game and got hurt with a season ending injury that has a tendency to re-occur. It is a super thin QB market and guys worse than Rick Smith have jobs out there, so anything is possible, but I would guess he gets no more than McCown.
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:54 PM
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Cleveland just gave Josh McGowan 3 year, 14 mil, 6.25 guaranteed contract for 35 year old QB. so Mallett likely to get more than that .
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:51 PM
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I understand what Barrett is saying. I would probably offer Mallett a structured deal that allows him more money based on starts for probably a 3-yr contract. Start 12 or more games, we pay you x. Less than 12 because you got IR'd, we pay you y. Less than 12 but more than 8, we pay you z. Have some other incentives put in it and then a higher guarantee figure to make it marketable.

It would be tricky but it can be done. There has to be rewards for Mallett if he excels and safeguards for the Texans if he doesn't.
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:30 PM
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I'd go with Mallet (of course) and I expect to hear some breaking news within the next few days/week on his future.

I'd keep Keenum (cheaper than Fitz) and Savage as 2a and 2b and hope that Mallet stays healthy and neither sees the field. Although, if the Texans have their eye on an early round QB such as Petty, then it could be Mallet with Savage/Petty as the backups...
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:16 PM
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Like I said, McCown's deal meant nothing for Mallett. Veteran backups get paid. You only get paid for potential if a team is investing the future in you and it was obvious no team was going to do that for Mallett. I think this is the perfect deal for Mallett and for Houston.

I have mixed feelings on Hoyer. I think he's generally terrible and just does not have the accuracy to play NFL football. But he has the traits you want in your backup and BOB obviously likes him. Oh well.
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