Official 2014 NFL Draft - Round 2 & 3 Thread

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Joshua

This makes sense but it's nevertheless depressing to pretty much write off this year already (and probably next year as well). O'Brien better be right that there wasn't an elite QB in this draft.

NFL coaches that will try to win with someone else's guys are rare. You don't get a ton of credit for winning with someone else's guys. You don't get to be declared a genius. Only pre-existing geniuses are willing to try it (Dungy and Gruden).

Bellachik guys are particularly well known for tearing down a franchise to rebuild it in their own image (McDaniels).

It's like you said, O'Brien better be right (about the QBs and everything else). But unless he was going to go way outside the box and roll the dice on Manziel, I am glad we passed on all these guys. I'll find some young guys to root for next year, I'll try not to let myself realize we have begun wasting JJ Watt's prime like we wated AJ's, and I will remain optimistic about the future.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by barrett

NFL coaches that will try to win with someone else's guys are rare. You don't get a ton of credit for winning with someone else's guys. You don't get to be declared a genius. Only pre-existing geniuses are willing to try it (Dungy and Gruden).

Bellachik guys are particularly well known for tearing down a franchise to rebuild it in their own image (McDaniels).

It's like you said, O'Brien better be right (about the QBs and everything else). But unless he was going to go way outside the box and roll the dice on Manziel, I am glad we passed on all these guys. I'll find some young guys to root for next year, I'll try not to let myself realize we have begun wasting JJ Watt's prime like we wated AJ's, and I will remain optimistic about the future.

I wish I shared your optimism. I see Fitzpatrick as a caretaker this year. Probably go 6-10 or so. Pretty much have to draft a QB next year, which may even require us to trade up and mortgage some future picks because we can't spin our wheels without even trying to get a QB for 2 straight years. Assuming we draft one, we then have a year with the rookie getting his feet wet (maybe he can take the league by storm but I doubt it). So, 2015 is likely a lost cause as well. As it stands now, 2016 is realistically when this team can reasonably be expected to compete again.

[popanot]

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by popanot

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

Since we no longer have a 4th or a 5th, what are we using to acquire him with? Keenum?

[Joshua]

I think we have a 4th but it's a compensatory pick and can't be traded. If they trade for Mallet, I suspect it will be next year's 3rd.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Since we no longer have a 4th or a 5th, what are we using to acquire him with? Keenum?

Don't we have the Raiders 5th for Schaub? I'm assuming Bilicheck would almost give him away now. No way would I give a 2015 pick for him unless it's late conditional pick.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Don't we have the Raiders 5th for Schaub? I'm assuming Bilicheck would almost give him away now. No way would I give a 2015 pick for him unless it's late conditional pick.

No it was a 6th.

We have 4.35 - compensatory, can't trade
3 - 6's
2 - 7's

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

No it was a 6th.

Ah, thanks!

[WMH]

Maybe they'll say piss on it all together, but I gotta think they'll take one of these guys at 4.35.....maybe?

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva ·3 secs
QBs still undrafted: AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Aaron Murray, Tom Savage, Logan Thomas, D Fales, Keith Wenning, Brett Smith, Tajh Boyd.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Talking heads on NFLN bringing up a Mallett to HOU deal again. Saying there's talk of Mallett agreeing to extend his contract for a year to get it done.

Why trade for him? Can't see him making the team after NE drafting a QB in the 2nd. Belicheat is a 2 QB kinda guy.

At this point, I don't see that he's that much upgrade over Fitz.

[HPF Bob]

Well we can always tank the season just for draft picks but, wait, there's a baseball team in Houston that already specializes in that. Two in one town would be brutal.

[Nconroe]

Seems we got 4 guys who will contribute in 2014 which is a good thing.

I'm glad we got Nix.

What next, perhaps ILB or CB or QB? At end of 4th?