Official Texans vs. Rams Game Thread, 10/13/2013

[cadams]

Originally Posted by WMH

Went back on watched the Schaub injury on the DVR. Don't believe that an ankle is supposed to turn in that direction. Too bad. If he's out, we are even more screwed this year than we already were.

I'm seriously starting to doubt all the comments regarding the "talent" we have on this team, as I sure don't see it in quite a few areas.

i don't think they are anymore screwed than they would be with him. i agree he is better than tj and case, but the offense had scored no touchdowns in 9 quarters with schaub in. not sure it can get any worse.

[cadams]

oh, and to answer the question about the coin toss. the rams won it.

[Arky]

The line for Texans vs. Chiefs opened at Chiefs by 4 and has quickly jumped to Chiefs by 6.5 to 7 (i.e., early money coming in on the Chiefs).

Usually, the books will hold off on posting a line if the status of the starting QB (Schaub) is unknown. I'm guessing they don't think it makes any difference.....

[WMH]

Looks like we lost D Manning for 6-8 weeks.

[Arky]

Anybody heard Schaub's status? Out a week? 2 weeks or more?

[WMH]

Originally Posted by Arky

Anybody heard Schaub's status? Out a week? 2 weeks or more?

Haven't seen anything. My guess, and I'm pulling this straight out of my arse, Schaub sits this week an is back after the bye. That would likely be the best case scenario.

[cadams]

i am starting to think that the best case scenario is a top 10 pick and taking a qb

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

Looks like we lost D Manning for 6-8 weeks.

no worries. we have ed reed. oye

[BigBull]

Originally Posted by popanot

no worries. we have ed reed. oye

The thought of that makes me want to throw up. They should have resigned GQ.

[Warren]

Kubiak says they'll make a determination on Schaub later in the week.

[HPF Bob]

Saw this and couldn't resist:

Bob McNair has a bumper sticker that says "My other Carr is a Schaub."

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Saw this and couldn't resist:

Bob McNair has a bumper sticker that says "My other Carr is a Schaub."

All of this is obviously totally on McNair. I'm not wishing for a Daniel Snyder, you know, I think all current and former Astros fans have seen what can happen when in the ownership a team trades one piece of slime for another piece of slime. But some accountability would be nice every once in a while. Some indication that the owner is interested in winning rather than cashing checks would be nice every once in a while.

I'm afraid what it comes down to is that McNair is another POS Texas fraud of an owner in a long and storied line of them. The only possible way to stop this bullshit is for people to quit paying for it. I somehow don't see that happening in my lifetime.

[HPF Bob]

So what type of owner are you asking for, Chuck? Robert Kraft? Arte Moreno? Mark Cuban? Woody Johnson? Jerry Jones?

My only real knock on McNair is that he's probably too patient but he made changes after the 2-14 disaster in 2005 and maybe he will again after this year's collapse.

I got jumped on earlier when I said I thought perhaps the game had passed by Kubiak and Phillips but maybe now folks understand better what I mean. Kubiak's system no longer surprises anyone and neither does Wade's 3-4 although it hasn't been that awful other than not generating sacks and turnovers.

Signing Ed Reed was a huge mistake And at what point do we start holding Rick Smith accountable?

[BigBull]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

So what type of owner are you asking for, Chuck? Robert Kraft? Arte Moreno? Mark Cuban? Woody Johnson? Jerry Jones?

My only real knock on McNair is that he's probably too patient but he made changes after the 2-14 disaster in 2005 and maybe he will again after this year's collapse.

I got jumped on earlier when I said I thought perhaps the game had passed by Kubiak and Phillips but maybe now folks understand better what I mean. Kubiak's system no longer surprises anyone and neither does Wade's 3-4 although it hasn't been that awful other than not generating sacks and turnovers.

Signing Ed Reed was a huge mistake And at what point do we start holding Rick Smith accountable?

I think you hit the nail on the head about Kubiak's and Wade's systems.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I got jumped on earlier when I said I thought perhaps the game had passed by Kubiak and Phillips but maybe now folks understand better what I mean. Kubiak's system no longer surprises anyone and neither does Wade's 3-4 although it hasn't been that awful other than not generating sacks and turnovers.

What system surprises anyone anymore? I've heard that alot lately, especially since things aren't going as planned, but I'm not sure I'm buying it. Play selection issues, absolutely, but system issues?

The zone read option was the thing last year. How's Kapernick and Wilson doing with that this year? Thier rushing yards are attributed to scrambles, as we saw first hand, and they were damaging.

NFL coaches are smart enough, and spend enough time on it to catch up with everything eventually.

At the end of the day, it comes down to execution, regardless of system. IMO, with the Texans that starts in the trenches, and this is by far our worst Oline play we have seen in the Kubiak era.

Not saying you're wrong, but I just have a hard time throwing my hands up and saying its a system thing, when on just about every goof we have can be lead to poor execution of the play.

[chuck]

I would take any owner who cares more about winning than anything else and whose mistakes happen because he is trying to win.

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I got jumped on earlier when I said I thought perhaps the game had passed by Kubiak and Phillips but maybe now folks understand better what I mean.

I understood what you meant and agreed totally. Otherwise do you really think I would forfeit an opportunity to give you a hard time about something? My Texans-induced apathy does have its limits, you know.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

My only real knock on McNair is that he's probably too patient but he made changes after the 2-14 disaster in 2005 and maybe he will again after this year's collapse.

Bob, I'm right there with you on your comments about McNair. I still think he's one of the best owners in the NFL and I'm still very grateful that he brought that sports league back to Houston. And eventually when Kubiak needs to go whenever that is, McNair might be a bit too deliberate getting it done but he'll probably make the right move when it happens.