2013 Mocks and Needs

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32 Keenan Allen* WR Cal 6' 3" 195
62 Nico Johnson OLB Alabama 6' 3" 238
94 Tyrann Mathieu* CB LSU 5' 9" 180
126 Jake Olson OT Central Michigan 6' 8" 290
158 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State 5' 9" 185
190 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6' 4" 275
222 Kaleb Ramsey DT Boston College 6' 3" 288

This is one way the draft could play out.

[HPF Bob]

Getting Honey Badger in the third would upgrade the return game and he'd be an exceptional nickel back. That would be a great pickup in the third.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Getting Honey Badger in the third would upgrade the return game and he'd be an exceptional nickel back. That would be a great pickup in the third.

He would have to ace his interview, his continued drug issues are not the type of things the Texans overlook. One time issues and contrite responses work for the Texans, but Mathieu has not been working with his team, and he has had issues since his rehab, does not look like a Texans type guy.

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Originally Posted by painekiller

32 Keenan Allen* WR Cal 6' 3" 195
62 Nico Johnson OLB Alabama 6' 3" 238
94 Tyrann Mathieu* CB LSU 5' 9" 180
126 Jake Olson OT Central Michigan 6' 8" 290
158 Kerwynn Williams RB Utah State 5' 9" 185
190 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6' 4" 275
222 Kaleb Ramsey DT Boston College 6' 3" 288

This is one way the draft could play out.

Not a bad mock, so I am looking at this from a different place. Tried to come up with some different names. Overall they are new names but some I have not used in a while.

32 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
62 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina 6' 7" 265 (a little early for this DE project, needs to add weight and strength)
94 Shayne Skov ILB Stanford 6' 3" 242
126 Cameron Marshall RB Arizona State 5' 11" 217
158 Devon Kennard OLB USC 6' 3" 255
190 Dan Buckner WR Arizona 6' 4" 215 (character flag, arrested for criminal trespass transferred and has been clean since)
222 Michael Williams TE Alabama 6'6" 270

[HPF Bob]

Buckner is the former Longhorn that had some problems one spring and was dropped/transferred. Big target. Not elite speed. Average hands. He's a matchup problem for most college DBs but I'm not sure he would be anything special in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Buckner is the former Longhorn that had some problems one spring and was dropped/transferred. Big target. Not elite speed. Average hands. He's a matchup problem for most college DBs but I'm not sure he would be anything special in the NFL.

And a flyer in the 6th round by a team that will not be very easy for anyone to make if they are picked after the 4th round. His crime was a criminal trespass in College Station, as you stated he went to UT, he was suspended by the longhorns and he transferred, sat out in Arizona, his red shirt year he was voted Scout team player of the year by his teammates, so he stayed in football and worked hard to put an incident behind him.

Honey Badger has been suspended by his team, could have transferred, choose not to, re-enrolled at LSU, then was arrested again for having high grade weed in his apartment. He has been away from football, and has continued a pattern of trouble with weed, and the law. Being a junior he can not play in any of the scout games after the season.

[HPF Bob]

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Understood the difference between a third-rounder and a sixth rounder. It's just that Mathieu would be a first-rounder without the red flags and Buckner might be a fourth-rounder without the red flags. Lower risk but lower reward.

I agree, in fact Mathieu could have been a top 15 pick, his height is not ideal, and he could not stop his demons. I am having PacMan flashes with him. If he can stay under control he could be a huge steal. But that is a big if.

[HPF Bob]

I'm not disagreeing. A team that has good depth and the team has a few strong leaders that can keep a young player in line, can take that chance in the third round. I compare it to when Denver drafted Maurice Clarett. If you can accept that you might have just drafted a bust, you can take the gamble. Clarett did become a bust but he might also have been great.