Official 2010 NFL Draft Round 4, 5, 6 & 7 Thread

[jcp]

Originally Posted by gunn

This draft is the definition of why the texans are a mediocre football team that has no substantial identity. No sense of any real direction and in my opinion do a sub par job of identifying needs.

I absolutely hate the laissez faire attitude this team takes toward addressing the lines.

While I respect your concern about our lines I don't get your suggestion that we don't address the lines in the draft...you may not like the picks but 3 of the last 5 1st rnd picks were lineman...a 2nd last year and a 3rd this year...not to mention Winston was a 3rd too

I remember last year a lot of eye rolling when glover was selected and he turned out to be an excellent pick

same with od

Either way, they got their top rated cb and their top rated rb...inarguably their two biggest holes...then grabbed a dt they clearly think is better than we do

it's make or break this year for this administration so they better be right on these picks, we'll find out in a few months

[painekiller]

BTW anyone else notice that Jags took my favorite late round guy Deji Karim.

[painekiller]

Another TE Dorin Dickerson from Pitt

[painekiller]

Wtf? ????????????

[TexanJedi]

He must have been a guy they had rated as going a couple of rounds earlier. TE city.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Another TE Dorin Dickerson from Pitt

Unbelievable!! Has more upside than Graham, IMO.

[nunusguy]

ESPN is pumping up this TE we just took and show'd some tape, and the guy looks more like a WR than TE. And he is really fast.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

ESPN is pumping up this TE we just took and show'd some tape, and the guy looks more like a WR than TE. And he is really fast.

He may be able to play Rb in some single back sets... third down, for instance. Perhaps he can be a solid short yardage back in conjuction with being a significant pass catching threat out of the backfield. He is certainly a matchup issue for teams if he's lined up at FB/HB.

[painekiller]

They started off so well, then Jackson , Tate, Mitchell I can live with.

But then they take an ILB that is undersized, slow and can not cover. Then they take a H back type TE, then a nice pick, CB from Northwestern.

After that they took a solid OG who fits there system. A system that appears to be outdated with the influx of 3-4 NTs that can play.

Then we take a KR/PR so goodbye Andre Davis, Jacoby your on notice. And finally another Hback? I know we do not have any healthy TEs but you can get TE as UDFA all day long. Dickerson could be a matchup problem. But he is not a WR at all.

I will not question the talent of each player, I will how ever question the choice of positions that they took and where they took them. Marciano should not be allow in the draft room any more, they entire 3rd day other than Shelly, are ST only guys on this team.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Dickerson could be a matchup problem. But he is not a WR at all.

Coach's quote: "He has some ability to do some things that normal 6-2, 235-pound tight ends can't do. I think he brings a lot of flexibility because of his 4.4, 4.5 speed (in the 40-yard dash) and his 350-pound bench press and his intelligence. When you put the package together, he can help a team win some games." —University of Pittsburgh coach Dave Wannstedt

• Draft expert: "He possesses the vertical speed to stretch the seam and the athletic ability to mismatch linebackers on crossing routes. An exceptional combine performance and rare top-end speed will enhance his value but he is still raw as a route runner." — Nolan Nawrocki, Pro Football Weekly draft analyst
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ll-troup_N.htm
Sure about that ?

[TexanJedi]

Kubiak on the radio now is saying Dickerson's future is at WR.

[bono]

props to NFL Network for showing us some woman dozing off and monitoring her sleep state

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by TexanJedi

Kubiak on the radio now is saying Dickerson's future is at WR.

Just a one-year starter for the Panthers --- Named 1st Team All-Big East in 2009 --- Father, Randy, played basketball at Kansas State and Lock Haven --- Played wide receiver in 2006 and outside linebacker in 2007 before finally moving to tight end in 2008 --- Enjoyed a breakout senior campaign --- Has never been given the opportunity to master a single position --- Played wideout at the Senior Bowl --- Blew up at the Scouting Combine, pacing his position in just about every event highlighted by a 4.40 forty and an amazing 43½-inch vertical --- A bit of a One-Year Wonder and Workout Warrior --- A mismatch waiting to happen and in many ways a wideout in a tight end's body but the key will be finding ways to utilize his unique talents --- Intriguing prospect with some eye-popping physical tools and a lot of upside --- Best fit at the next level will likely come as an H-Back in the mold of Dustin Keller.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Scouti...-Dickerson.php
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This guys a real freak, a real workour-warrior. NP, that's what 7th round Draft picks are for, drafting projects. Very intriguing prospect ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Coach's quote: "He has some ability to do some things that normal 6-2, 235-pound tight ends can't do. I think he brings a lot of flexibility because of his 4.4, 4.5 speed (in the 40-yard dash) and his 350-pound bench press and his intelligence. When you put the package together, he can help a team win some games." —University of Pittsburgh coach Dave Wannstedt

• Draft expert: "He possesses the vertical speed to stretch the seam and the athletic ability to mismatch linebackers on crossing routes. An exceptional combine performance and rare top-end speed will enhance his value but he is still raw as a route runner." — Nolan Nawrocki, Pro Football Weekly draft analyst
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ll-troup_N.htm
Sure about that ?

At the senior bowl he moved outside and played WR. He was very over matched. The announcers all said it proved he need to stay at H=Back and go against FS LB types. He is a development type guy, he has not had a position long enough to learn how to excel to his measurables.

[Roy P]

Dorin Dickerson is a player who should be used like the Broncos used Shannon Sharpe. I realize that sounds like a unfair comparison, but that's how he can best impact. Essentially, he is our slot WR instead of David Anderson.

The question I had is our WR coach looking to work with this guy because the TE coach is overwhelmed? There are a lot of TEs to work with and in the draft. With the Spread Offense, this is a positon that is having more and more candidates. Jeron Mastrud and Colin Peek were undrafted, maybe we can sign them. I would have preferred Clay Harbor to Garrett Graham, but I suppose they have a history with Wisconsin TEs. I think Dennis Pitta is going to be a good pro too.

Anyway, Dickerson was ranked 104 overall by CBSDraftscout, so he was a bargain at 227.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by painekiller

They started off so well, then Jackson , Tate, Mitchell I can live with.

But then they take an ILB that is undersized, slow and can not cover. Then they take a H back type TE, then a nice pick, CB from Northwestern.

After that they took a solid OG who fits there system. A system that appears to be outdated with the influx of 3-4 NTs that can play.

Then we take a KR/PR so goodbye Andre Davis, Jacoby your on notice. And finally another Hback? I know we do not have any healthy TEs but you can get TE as UDFA all day long. Dickerson could be a matchup problem. But he is not a WR at all.

I will not question the talent of each player, I will how ever question the choice of positions that they took and where they took them. Marciano should not be allow in the draft room any more, they entire 3rd day other than Shelly, are ST only guys on this team.

I agree. Where is the direction? Everyone here can talk about how this team is addressing the line but I don't consider massive reaches and 5-6 rounders as "addressing the line". When you can't punch it in from the goal line and your running game gets stood up at the line of scrimmage... It's not your running backs fault. And drafting two tight ends every year is not going to solve any problems.

[bono]

Originally Posted by gunn

I agree. Where is the direction? Everyone here can talk about how this team is addressing the line but I don't consider massive reaches and 5-6 rounders as "addressing the line". When you can't punch it in from the goal line and your running game gets stood up at the line of scrimmage... It's not your running backs fault. And drafting two tight ends every year is not going to solve any problems.

They've done alright. we got the big RB in Tate. Wade Smith can be LG, Caldwell at C and Brisel can be RG. if he's healthy, Chester Pitts still hasn't signed anywhere.

Holliday replaces Andre Davis which is fine by me. I thought Davis wasn't very good on kickoffs for most of the year

[gunn]

Originally Posted by bono

They've done alright. we got the big RB in Tate. Wade Smith can be LG, Caldwell at C and Brisel can be RG. if he's healthy, Chester Pitts still hasn't signed anywhere.

Holliday replaces Andre Davis which is fine by me. I thought Davis wasn't very good on kickoffs for most of the year

Where is the identity of this team? That's why I struggle with this team. If it's marching up and down the field between the 20's... I get that... and I think they're doing a knockout job. But if it's putting the ball in the endzone and stopping the other team from the endzone inside the 20's then they're missing the boat.

When you watch this team there is zero push on either side of the ball.