Favre to the Texans?

[mussop]

Originally Posted by KJ3

consider what he accomplished last year with a great field of talent around him? so his team has to be good or he doesn't show up? consider it considered.

Great field of talent? Whatever!

Originally Posted by KJ3

maybe so...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still schaub's job. if he didn't lose it to sage, favre shouldn't even be a concern.

Just because he didnt loose it to a career backup he shouldnt have to earn his spot?

Originally Posted by KJ3

i have to have an article for that? for cereal? people generally dislike temper tantrums, so i have to assume nfl players are people and that favre IS throwing himself a pity-party...so put one and one together. it makes eleven. my guess is the packers lockerroom isn't a field of daisies right now.

Yes show me an article or even one single quote from a current player that as a problem with what is going on with Favre. While youre at it please explain how hes throwing a temper tantrum. Ridiculous!!!!So he retired and now hes changed his mind. Big effen deal like its never happened before with any other player. You are basically making the tantrum part up because you think it makes youre argument look better. Sad!!

Originally Posted by KJ3

so you agree? more playing time for schaub. because he was damn good while on the field, devoid of any sort of weapon-type player no less.

Really, Favre was damn better with about the same amount of help.

Originally Posted by KJ3

why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.

Favre didnt have a cell phone that belonged to the Packers. More made up crap by the media to doll up their story. Kinda like youre version where he is throwing a "tantrum". bum-dum pshhhhhH!!

[coloradodude]

Personally, I think the Texans see a type of Tom Brady in Matt Schaub. More of a calm, careful, methodical, cerebral QB than an athletic maverick.

The athletic playmakers do put butts in the seats because of the excitement they create but the cerebral QB's throughout the history of the league have more wins...Staubach, Griese (not Brian), etc.

I respect Favre for many reasons but he should stay retired. Where's he really gonna go that's considered a contender that doesn't already have a QB?

[Nconroe]

heresay is GB fans and players are split on support of Farve vs Rogers. many sites support that.

Just to look at a few of Farve's numbers of last three years and career to compare with say Schaub or Rosenfelds. 05 and 06 were not so good at all for Farve.

QB year Pct TD INT SCK Fumb RTG TO PT/G Wins
Farve 2007 66.5 28 15 15 9 95.7 +4 27.2 13
Farve 2006 56.0 18 18 21 8 72.7 8
Farve 2005 61.3 20 29 24 10 70.9 4
Farve overall 61.4 442 288 439 147 85.7

Schaub 07 66.4 9 9 16 7 87.2 -13 23.7 4
Rosenfels 7 64.2 15 12 6 4 84.8 4

Carr 2006 68.3 11 12 41 16 74.4 6

just stats, choose the ones you think might help your argument. to me looks like qb sacks, time to run a play, has a large effect on results

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by mussop

Great field of talent? Whatever!

my mistake, you're right. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top in the 4th quarter. talentless punkasses.

saying "whatever" and hitting an eye-rolling smiley? great point.

Just because he didnt loose it to a career backup he shouldnt have to earn his spot?

no. it's schaub's job to lose. why is that so hard to understand? he was given the job. if he was bad in his time on the field i might understand your manbone for favre but schaub was more than enough when healthy.

Yes show me an article or even one single quote from a current player that as a problem with what is going on with Favre. While youre at it please explain how hes throwing a temper tantrum. Ridiculous!!!!So he retired and now hes changed his mind. Big effen deal like its never happened before with any other player. You are basically making the tantrum part up because you think it makes youre argument look better. Sad!!

Really, Favre was damn better with about the same amount of help.

uhhh....really? have you eyes and ears? he tearfully retired and now he wants back, but not really, but he does, but he still hasn't filed his papers, but he's been using this cell phone, except the cell phone isn't real, but he has been in some contact with the vikings, but goodell wants in on the action, but he was in an interview with greta-face, but everybody oh i don't know can't decide between him and rodgers and if all of this is fake then WHAT THE F DO YOU CALL IT?!?!?! this is an athlete throwing a full on tantrum. just because you won't pay attention and then say, "WHTAVVERRR !" doesn't mean favre is being a good little girl.

Favre didnt have a cell phone that belonged to the Packers. More made up crap by the media to doll up their story. Kinda like youre version where he is throwing a "tantrum". bum-dum pshhhhhH!!

so...if a national sports news network, maybe like...i don't know...espn or something reports it for a day or two and i mention it on a message board before they call it back in i'm the idiot? how 'bout this:

people supporting favre to the texans, bumdum psssshh!!
three elephants fall out of a plane, two hit land, one hits water, bumdum psssshh!!!
two snare drums and a cymbal roll down a cliff, bumdum psssshhh!!!

[painekiller]

Do you really think any of the teammates will/would go on the record and complain about the almighty Farve? Not just no but hell no they will not. Unlike Farve himself (when he inserted himself into Walkers negotiation) they know when to be quite.

That said, the NFL network did report that many of the packers wish Brett and the story would go away. Sorry i do not have it Tivoed.

Why would the players think that about superman? because when Farve retired, the team needed to move on and it did. The management and players prepared themselves for life after Farve, now he decides that he is bigger than the Packers and he wants to play. Never mind they have 3 quality QBs on the roster, unproven yes, but quality.

Farve go to CBS or FOX or ESPN and work on Sunday.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by KJ3

my mistake, you're right. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top in the 4th quarter. talentless punkasses.

Quick name some of these great players that Favre was surrounded by. I help you out with the obvious. Donald Driver. There thats it. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top. You think Schaub could of taken that team that far? You probably do.

Originally Posted by KJ3

saying "whatever" and hitting an eye-rolling smiley? great point.

Sometimes I just dont have the energy to deal with "talentless punkasses".

Originally Posted by KJ3

no. it's schaub's job to lose. why is that so hard to understand? he was given the job. if he was bad in his time on the field i might understand your manbone for favre but schaub was more than enough when healthy.

You prove my point by underlining GIVEN. If anyone has a manbone its you for Schaub. We finished 8 & 8 if thats "more than enough for you that explains alot.

Originally Posted by KJ3

uhhh....really? have you eyes and ears? he tearfully retired and now he wants back, but not really, but he does, but he still hasn't filed his papers, but he's been using this cell phone, except the cell phone isn't real, but he has been in some contact with the vikings, but goodell wants in on the action, but he was in an interview with greta-face, but everybody oh i don't know can't decide between him and rodgers and if all of this is fake then WHAT THE F DO YOU CALL IT?!?!?! this is an athlete throwing a full on tantrum. just because you won't pay attention and then say, "WHTAVVERRR !" doesn't mean favre is being a good little girl.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...ment-in-march/
yeah what a bad guy. He retired and then changed his mind. Whatta jerk!

Originally Posted by KJ3

so...if a national sports news network, maybe like...i don't know...espn or something reports it for a day or two and i mention it on a message board before they call it back in i'm the idiot? how 'bout this:

people supporting favre to the texans, bumdum psssshh!!
three elephants fall out of a plane, two hit land, one hits water, bumdum psssshh!!!
two snare drums and a cymbal roll down a cliff, bumdum psssshhh!!!

This is pretty much how I feel about youre responses to this thread.

Originally Posted by KJ3

c'mon man, that's just a silly thing to say. what are you expecting? please take favre and 2 1st rounders? anything less than that isn't even getting a second thought. there is no reason to place all the faith in the world in schaub, i understand that but what he's shown has been very good. at this point though, despite earning his legendary status, favre is not a clearly better quarterback than schaub.

This is a clear indicator that you are clueless about QBplay.
I like Shaub but to say he is a better QB than Favre is moronic. Schaub has accomplished nothing and Favre is a shoein for the HOF. In short Schaub doesnt deserve to hold Favres jock strap.


Favre won the Associated Press's MVP Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award three times, all in consecutive years (1995, 1996, and 1997; the last shared with Barry Sanders).
In 1999, he was ranked number 82 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players.[70] In 2005, TSN published another special feature honoring the 50 Greatest Quarterbacks. With his career statistics considerably augmented, Favre was ranked number 4, behind Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and John Elway, and just ahead of previous Packer quarterback legend Bart Starr.
Favre was named the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 2007.[71]
Favre was selected to play in the Pro Bowl nine times in his career.[72]
Favre was a seven-time All-Pro selection.
Favre was named to the NFL 1990s All-Decade Team.
Received the NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 12 times.
Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle declared November 29, 2004 as Brett Favre Day to honor Favre's 200th consecutive NFL regular season start.[73] That night, the Packers defeated the St. Louis Rams on Monday Night Football.
Men's Health Magazine voted Favre the "Toughest Person in America" in 2003.[74]
Chris Greicius Celebrity Award from the Make a Wish Foundation in 2007 for "being a true standout, even among the many generous celebrities who help create magical experiences for the kids who wish to meet them."[75]
United States Sports Academy Male Athlete of the Year Award in 2007 finishing ahead of Tiger Woods and Tom Brady.[76]
NFC Offensive Player of the Year in 2007 presented by the NFL 101 Award Committee.[77]
FedEx Air player of the year award in 2007.[78]

Records and milestones
Favre currently possesses most of the well-known NFL career records for quarterbacks, including:

Most AP NFL MVP awards: 3 (1995, 1996, 1997)[79]
Most consecutive starts by a quarterback (NFL): 253[4] (275 including playoffs)
Most wins by a starting quarterback (NFL) regular season career: 160[4] (Regular season record: 160-93)
Most career passing touchdowns: 442[80][81]
Most career passing yards: 61,655[80]
Most career pass completions: 5,377[82][4]
Most career pass attempts: 8,758[4][3][83]
Most career interceptions thrown: 288[80][84]
Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 63[48]
Favre holds the record for consecutive starts by a quarterback with 253. His streak ranks behind only Jim Marshall, who started 270 straight games.[4]

In the playoffs, Favre stands behind only Joe Montana in pass completions, passing touchdowns, passing yards and passing attempts.

In addition, Favre owns a number of team records, having printed his name into almost every passing category in the annals of Green Bay Packers history, most recently setting the team record for consecutive completions with 20 on November 22, 2007, against the Detroit Lions.[85] With 38 "come-from-behind" 4th quarter wins & 2 more overtime victories, Brett Favre is the Green Bay Packers record holder and second only to John Elway's 47 4th quarter or OT "come-back wins", in NFL history.


Consecutive starts streak
Since first being named the starter of the Green Bay Packers before playing the Pittsburgh Steelers on September 27, 1992 Brett Favre never missed a game.[86] He is currently in first place for the most consecutive starts by a quarterback in the NFL and one of only five quarterbacks to have started over 100 consecutive games in NFL history. He failed to finish a game due to injury on only six occasions since taking control of the Packers as quarterback.[87] Besides Favre, there are only two other active streaks of 100 or more games, those of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Since the beginning of Favre's consecutive start streak, 212 other quarterbacks have started in the NFL,[88][89] 11 of them being back-ups to Favre at one point.[86] Among his former backups are: Don Majkowski, Ty Detmer, Mark Brunell, Steve Bono, Doug Pederson, Matt Hasselbeck, Danny Wuerffel, Aaron Brooks, and J. T. O'Sullivan. Two veteran backups to Favre never started another NFL game: Jim McMahon, and T.J. Rubley. The consecutive starts streak is widely considered one of the most notable streaks in sports, so much so that the Pro Football Hall of Fame has as an exhibit displaying the jersey Favre wore during his record breaking 117th consecutive start as a quarterback, and a section of their website devoted to what the Hall of Fame calls an "Iron Man".[90]


Here are some stories that should educate you a little.

SHAREHOLDERS HOSTILE TO THOMPSON
Posted on July 24th, 2008
As Packers General Manager Ted Thompson awkwardly attempts to keep the fans happy while keeping the franchise’s most popular player away, he had a rough go of it today at the team’s shareholders’ meeting.
Multiple reports indicate that the majority of the thousands of shareholders who showed up today in Green Bay were anti-Thompson and pro-Brett […]

GOODELL TELLS PACKERS TO WRAP UP FAVRE FIASCO
Posted on July 23rd, 2008
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has advised Packers G.M. Ted Thompson to truly move on without Brett Favre if the team plans to move on without Brett Favre.
And so it apparently was the call from Goodell that got the Packers to begin making calls in an effort to find a trade […]

FAVRE SHOWS AT LAMBEAU
Posted by Mike Florio on July 19, 2008, 11:10 p.m. EDT
As expected, “retired” quarterback Brett Favre made an appearance at Lambeau Field on Saturday night to introduce former Packers center Frank Winters for induction in the team’s Hall of Fame.
Speaking for roughly three minutes as he introduced Winters, Favre did not address the lingering tug-o-war between him and the team regarding his potential unretirement.
“That’s the thing about Green Bay,” said Favre. ”It’s a special place. There’s a lot of tradition. You think of the Packers, you think of all these great names, and to be a part of that — and I know Frank feels honored — is a special thing. I’m thankful that he asked me to be here.”
Favre also received the team’s annual MVP award on Saturday, and he called himself “an old, gray-haired quarterback showing I can still do it.”
That’s the problem. He still can do it. And still wants to.

[Nconroe]

well this site seems to have a lot of info on Brett. including links to his homepage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/sp...=1&oref=slogin
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...en_bay_packers

sounds like if Brett petitions NFL to come back by Sunday then Green Bay can keep him or release him. And if released NY Jets and Tampa Bay have most interest.

here is a packer message board and thread on the division of team, obviously lots of different opinions, and this is where Brett did so well.

http://www.packerchatters.com/4ums/i...howtopic=11016

I think best way out is as someone mentioned, get a TV job for Sundays as an analyst during halftime and postgames. Do it quick.

[KJ3]

whatever :


i'm not going any farther with you man. namecalling, taking what i say out of context, assuming what i think, all for a .00000000001% chance of favre ever coming here....no thankity.


i have a manbone for schaub? hardly. i haven't posted 6000 words about schaub on a different teams' message board.

[TheMatrix31]

Anyone who even considers wanting Favre on this team should look at the media circus that surrounds this attention whore. Would you seriously want all THAT surrounding our team? I certainly wouldn't.