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Old 02-08-2010, 08:25 AM
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Given that we're likely going uncapped, people are going to have to drop the idea of budgetary restriction -- at least within reason.

Pre-2010 football would dictate that we worry about such a thing. But, not that we will not have a cap, the amount of money LT would get is only a concern to McNair, Rick Smith, and LT. There's really no difference in LT coming to us for 2 years $2M, 2 years $6M, or 2 years $10M.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:37 AM
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Pre-2010 football would dictate that we worry about such a thing. But, not that we will not have a cap, the amount of money LT would get is only a concern to McNair, Rick Smith, and LT. There's really no difference in LT coming to us for 2 years $2M, 2 years $6M, or 2 years $10M.
True, but I'm sure McNair has a budget in mind that he's willing to spend, and I'd rather they use it to re-sign some of our quality RFAs (DeMeco, Pollard, Daniels, etc.) than throw cash at LT. Just because there's likely to be no cap this next year doesn't mean you give some crazy contract to someone and be bound to it when there is a cap possibly in 2011.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:52 AM
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True, but I'm sure McNair has a budget in mind that he's willing to spend, and I'd rather they use it to re-sign some of our quality RFAs (DeMeco, Pollard, Daniels, etc.) than throw cash at LT. Just because there's likely to be no cap this next year doesn't mean you give some crazy contract to someone and be bound to it when there is a cap possibly in 2011.
I agree that re-signing some of our RFA is idea. But while the amount of money spent on our roster will be finite, it will also be malleable. There will be not "cap" on our roster, and McNair has shown the willingness to do what it takes to win.

I just hate to see the idea of bringing in an effective RB pooed on because of antiquated restrictions. So, if the singing of LT was dependent on not re-signing Pollard, Ryans, and Daniels, I'd obviously prefer the latter. But, I don't believe that to be true. And, even if it was, we still have a couple of more years to work out a contract with those guys (though that's obviously not ideal).
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:22 AM
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You also must consider that if you give LT 2 years and $10 milion because it is uncapped, it is not just between LT, McNair, and Smith. It is between every other Texans player who sees us spending big money because it's uncapped and wants a raise because of it.

Cap or no cap it is dangerous to sign bad deals. Not to mention that big money tells a guy he can expect a big role to go with it.

I want LT, but his expectations and his salary have to be in line with what we are asking him to do.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:10 AM
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You also must consider that if you give LT 2 years and $10 milion because it is uncapped, it is not just between LT, McNair, and Smith. It is between every other Texans player who sees us spending big money because it's uncapped and wants a raise because of it.

Cap or no cap it is dangerous to sign bad deals. Not to mention that big money tells a guy he can expect a big role to go with it.

I want LT, but his expectations and his salary have to be in line with what we are asking him to do.
Ya, that's a concern, but a minor one. My 2 year $10M example was also obviously hyperbolic. But, if the Texans were to offer LT a contract that some of our players felt was unfair (to them), they can go and become one of the greatest players at their respective position in the history of the game and then come back and bitch about it. Whatever.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:31 PM
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Ya, that's a concern, but a minor one. My 2 year $10M example was also obviously hyperbolic. But, if the Texans were to offer LT a contract that some of our players felt was unfair (to them), they can go and become one of the greatest players at their respective position in the history of the game and then come back and bitch about it. Whatever.
After watching D-Rob be insulted by his $10 we should realize that these things don't have to make sense. And the reason for that is that contract negotiations are agent driven.

If we give a guy who had 800 yards and 3 ypc $4 million per year, then every agent who negotiates with us has to get that kind of value out of us or they are inferior to the agent who got it for LT (and they lose clients to that guy). So they give bad advice to their client in order to protect their slice of the pie. And honestly it has repercussions even beyond our team in terms of setting market values at various positions.

But the bottom line is that bad contracts are bad ideas whether there is a cap or not.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:21 PM
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say no to LT. The guy has too many miles on his legs. Ahman Green part 2
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Old 02-12-2010, 04:25 PM
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LT is also great in pass protection.
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