Petey Faggins Discusses Texans Locker Room [ESPN.com AFC South blog]

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by superbowlbound

The fact of the matter is, not one player on this planet is EVER going to respond to a question regarding which team he likes better, his old one or the one he's on now with "You know, I'd really rather be back where i was. Atmosphere was better" It's just not going to happen. period. Is there some truth to his statements? probably. Should they be taken with a grain of salt? Absolutely, no two-ways about it. I think that is the primary point these guys were trying to make. The comments can't just be taken at face value, is all.


Also, i've never played corner, so I guess I don't really know, but I'd think it'd be pretty tough to effectively run press coverage when you're starting off with a 13 yard cushion. Am I wrong?

See, that's where I think this is different than most vague comments made by players when they arrive with a new team. That's why I think Barrett's Smith analogy is irrelevant. These guys aren't arriving with their new teams and making generic statements like, "I'm really excited with the direction of this team, and I feel like they provide me with the best opportunity I've had in my career to compete for a Super Bowl."

There have been two different guys make specific comments about the team chemistry. There's a common thread there, which is why I take exception when people dismiss it as, "Faggins is more about sour grapes & bad apples."

Whatever. Just because Faggins is a dime corner and CC Brown is a mediocre safety doesn't make then unqualified from commenting on the quality of the Texans' lockerroom.

Here's to hoping that the chemistry changes as the quality of play does.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

See, that's where I think this is different than most vague comments made by players when they arrive with a new team. That's why I think Barrett's Smith analogy is irrelevant. These guys aren't arriving with their new teams and making generic statements like, "I'm really excited with the direction of this team, and I feel like they provide me with the best opportunity I've had in my career to compete for a Super Bowl."

There have been two different guys make specific comments about the team chemistry. There's a common thread there, which is why I take exception when people dismiss it as, "Faggins is more about sour grapes & bad apples."

Whatever. Just because Faggins is a dime corner and CC Brown is a mediocre safety doesn't make then unqualified from commenting on the quality of the Texans' lockerroom.

Here's to hoping that the chemistry changes as the quality of play does.

He was specifically asked after a training camp practice what the differences are between his current Team and his old one. He did not bring this up on his own. It was an answer to a direct question. That is far different than if he left the team and trashed the Texans. He didn't. He was asked a question and he gave a honest but positive answer. Not a ground breaking expose.

Now if long time Texans retire and bash the team on their own (as opposed to answering questions about their new team), then I would take notice. This just doesn't seem like a big deal.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by barrett

He was specifically asked after a training camp practice what the differences are between his current Team and his old one. He did not bring this up on his own. It was an answer to a direct question. That is far different than if he left the team and trashed the Texans. He didn't. He was asked a question and he gave a honest but positive answer. Not a ground breaking expose.

Now if long time Texans retire and bash the team on their own (as opposed to answering questions about their new team), then I would take notice. This just doesn't seem like a big deal.

Right. He was asked about the differences and specifically mentioned the team chemistry, out of the thousands of other things that could have been mentioned, as did fellow ex-Texan CC Brown. There's a common thread there.

You're not disputing anything I've said, and obviously you agree that there must be a problem with the chemistry. So, I don't know why you have to dismiss it because it was an ex-player who said it (like a current player is going to come out and blast the team chemistry) and then try and bait me into a sematical argument about how you think there's a problem but for whatever reason Petey Faggins' word ins't acceptable on the matter.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nero THE zero

Right. He was asked about the differences and specifically mentioned the team chemistry, out of the thousands of other things that could have been mentioned, as did fellow ex-Texan CC Brown. There's a common thread there.

You're not disputing anything I've said, and obviously you agree that there must be a problem with the chemistry. So, I don't know why you have to dismiss it because it was an ex-player who said it (like a current player is going to come out and blast the team chemistry) and then try and bait me into a sematical argument about how you think there's a problem but for whatever reason Petey Faggins' word ins't acceptable on the matter.

This is not a semantics argument. I am not disagreeing with how you say it, I am disagreeing with you. I am saying unequivocally that Petey Faggins is not a good source for Titans team comparisons as long as he is a member of the Titans.

As you stated, no current Texans player will speak out. I assume you come to this conclusion based on them being a current employee who is relying on Bob McNair for their well being. How can you understand this but not the conflict of interest for Petey saying his current team is better than the old one.

That's why I mentioned if a retired player said something I would listen, because they have no stake in any direction. They have no motive and no boss to answer to. They have total objectivity. If Petey retires and still makes this comment I'll listen. I'd also listen if Petey played for the 49ers next year and compared the Titans and the Texans because neither would be his boss. But right now he has no objectivity to compare the Titans and Texans when one currently pays his bills.