Trade Dunta?

[barrett]

I hope Dunta has a great season this year. Hopefully the Injury is all the way behind him and he is back to being a good starting NFL CB. If he is then I hope he gets paid. I don't care who pays him. Either we give him the long term deal after seeing him play at a high level. Or we trade him after the year to another team after tagging him again. Either way it is clear that using the tag and keeping him is the #1 option.

To trade him right now, we'd need some other team to give him the long term deal he is seeking from us. Otherwise he won't sign the tender to get traded and another team won't give anything up for a guy without knowing they can keep him. He is basically untradable right now unless some other team is willing to come along and pay him a big long term deal AND give us fair compensation. That's not happening. This means we keep him or we let him walk.

[Keith]

No deal. Check this from the chron clip below though:

The last time Robinson spoke he said he was prepared to sit out training camp and part of the season.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6531114.html

Missing any part of the regular season would be beyond stupid.

Robinson's biggest play here has to be to get the Texans to write into his agreement that he will not be franchised in 2010. That, plus maybe a freakish risk-averse tendency to another injury, is the only thing I can think of that would keep Robinson from signing his tender right now.

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

That is why I have been saying to trade him, let him shop himself. Take a 1st or a 2nd round pick, he will not help you missing all of camp, and then having to sit out. His advisers are playing this all wrong.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

That is why I have been saying to trade him, let him shop himself. Take a 1st or a 2nd round pick, he will not help you missing all of camp, and then having to sit out. His advisers are playing this all wrong.

Do you really think another team is going to give up a 1st or 2nd rounder for the right to pay $30 gauranteed to a CB coming off of injury? There is nobody who wants him right now if it is going to cost a draft pick and a new contract at the $$$ he is talking.

[nunusguy]

OK so the drop-dead date & time for the Texans & Robinson to negotitate a new contract passed yesterday at 3 PM local time. For the sake of clarification - if the Texans & Robinson mutually agree can a third-party come in and negotiate with Robinson at this time for a long-term deal, assuming the consideration that the other team would give to the Texans (draft-pick(s), player(s), etc.), would be acceptable to them ? Or can no one
negotiate a long-term contract with Robinson until the completion of the 2009season ?

[NBT]

Robinson is certainly not helping his own cause that's for sure, by holding out and being uncommunicative.

[edo783]

Originally Posted by Keith

Honestly though, if he misses training camp, I start to wonder about rescinding the tender altogether. Part of what I'm paying Robinson for in the $10 million is his on-field leadership, and if he isn't there, then that's a big negative toward his 2009 value.

That is the conclusion I came to a couple of weeks ago. Even if he were to sign for the first game, he wouldn't really be available until week 3-4. Given that, we will in effect be paying 12 million for him. Ask yourself, is there anyway on Gods green earth Dunta is worth that? Also factor in the negatives of the hold out and a very likely negative person in the locker room. I could very easily see him doing his best to do everything he could to undermine what any of the coaches are trying to do. He is pissed (right or wrong about it) he didn't get to go to FA or get the mega contract and isn't to be trusted to be a team player at this point. IMO, if he hasn't signed by at least 2 weeks before the start of the season, pull the offer, put the money saved to use and get DeMeco signed and pick up a could of depth guys.

[idymoe]

Just saw this on KFFL.com:

Jason La Canfora, of the NFL Network, reports Houston Texans CB Dunta Robinson is prepared to not report to training camp on time and hold out for perhaps longer, according to a source.



I just don't like this. Even if the Texans f-tag Dunta next year also, that's over 20 million for two years.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Just saw this on KFFL.com:

Jason La Canfora, of the NFL Network, reports Houston Texans CB Dunta Robinson is prepared to not report to training camp on time and hold out for perhaps longer, according to a source.



I just don't like this. Even if the Texans f-tag Dunta next year also, that's over 20 million for two years.

not reporting to training camp was pretty much a given at this point

[NBT]

He doesn't want to play or report for close to ten big ones then fine, let him sit out all TC and into the season as he threatens to do. Then freeze him, and let him see how he likes sitting and griping and not getting paid. I would send him a voided check for $625.000 each game to see what he is missing by holding out!