UGLY LOSS!!! Now questions to Ponder going forward.

[painekiller]

The Texans coaching staff was schooled yesterday. Now the question is will they learn from it?

Can Brian Gaine successfully build an OL that has a Colts like turn around? Heck I would be happy with just getting to the league average in sacks and QB hits.

What kind of personnel changes should happen in the secondary?

Does the Offense need a new play caller? OB seems more predictable then even Kubiak. I have lived here in Houston a long time, Jerry Glanville was famous for forcing the offense into playing smash mouth football, and then in the fourth quarter using the Run n Shoot to get back into the game. Whats wrong in going 4 or 5 wide for most of the game? Oh, we are back at needing personnel that can block and guys that can get open (or at least stay healthy enough to get on the field).

Looking forward to FA and the draft yet again.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

The Texans coaching staff was schooled yesterday. Now the question is will they learn from it?

Can Brian Gaine successfully build an OL that has a Colts like turn around? Heck I would be happy with just getting to the league average in sacks and QB hits.

What kind of personnel changes should happen in the secondary?

Does the Offense need a new play caller? OB seems more predictable then even Kubiak. I have lived here in Houston a long time, Jerry Glanville was famous for forcing the offense into playing smash mouth football, and then in the fourth quarter using the Run n Shoot to get back into the game. Whats wrong in going 4 or 5 wide for most of the game? Oh, we are back at needing personnel that can block and guys that can get open (or at least stay healthy enough to get on the field).

Looking forward to FA and the draft yet again.

First off we ran out of WRs so it's hard to fault O'Brien for not fielding 5 WR sets. He is obviously in love with using TEs on a roster with no good ones, but by the middle of the year we didn't have 3 NFL level WRs.

Our CBs are terrible. Either the front 7 gets home or we get toasted. Joseph, Johnson, and Jackson could all be replaced by street FAs and nothing would change. Letting Bouye go is the worst non-qb move we've made.

We will never have an average number of QB hits and sacks until Watson learns to throw the ball away. Our OL is not good, but he's impossible to block for because he isn't playing QB like the rest of the league. The only QB to start all season and hold the ball as long as Watson (over 3 seconds) is Russell Wilson and he is sacked the 3rd most (62 to 51). Dak Prescott holds it far shorter and got sacked almost (56) as much as Watson. We need to block better and that won't happen until we get better players. But we'll never be under 50 sacks until Watson gets the ball out quicker. We could have the Ol from the 90s Cowboys and he'd still get sacked 50 times holding it this long. We either need to accept the sacks or change how he plays. Both are not possible.

[nunusguy]

Re the state of the team in terms of the personnel I thought except for the back-end where we had real issues at corner back but had made some improvements at the safety position with the draft of a promising rookie in Justin Reed and a solid pickup of the Badger in FA, but I was really under the impression that we were solid if not downright formidable when it came to our front seven.
But wow the Colts OLine mauled our front line guys the other day so don't now know what to think ?
So yea knew we had lots of issues on offense but now also wondering just what is the quality of the roster on the defensive side ?

[barrett]

I think the front 7 struggles in that game were way overstated by the announcers. We gave up 21 points. Our front 7 produced a tipped pass INT. We played the run well. The only big front 7 issue I saw was the way we let Luck scramble. Aside from that it was a mediocre effort without a ton of pressure, but wasn't bad by any means.

But Booger McFarland is terrible as an announcer and is constantly trying to spin the still happening action into long term narratives. Like the play he declared Clowney and embarrassment for being blocked into the endzone. Then the replay shows Clowney stalemating a double team until he gets pushed into the endzone after the TD.

The issue was our CBs not being anywhere near WRs on normal routes.

[Arky]

The biggest issue for me was OB getting out-coached so badly. The Colts came out and had a good feel for what they could do on offense. The Texans, not so much.

If you had a choice between an ex-NFL QB calling your offense or an ex-DE from Brown University calling your offense, who would you choose? Hmmmm.....

The blame goes all around, though, it's not just him. Players gotta execute and we need better players in certain positions......

It didn't help that Watson had a bad game. I'm afraid when he's not at his best, we have no chance....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

The biggest issue for me was OB getting out-coached so badly. The Colts came out and had a good feel for what they could do on offense. The Texans, not so much.

If you had a choice between an ex-NFL QB calling your offense or an ex-DE from Brown University calling your offense, who would you choose? Hmmmm.....

The blame goes all around, though, it's not just him. Players gotta execute and we need better players in certain positions......

It didn't help that Watson had a bad game. I'm afraid when he's not at his best, we have no chance....

We got outcoached and outplayed badly. It has zero to do with what positions the HCs played and where they played them.

The top 5 offenses in the NFL this year were led by a BYU OL, a Miami of Ohio WR, a backup QB from University of Idaho, a defensive back from Purdue, and a WR from D3 John Carroll.

The idea that what and where you played football determines your coaching ability is absurd. There are 7 former HOF players who have coached and only one was good at it (Ditka), and only Munchak coached in the modern era. Most NFL football coaches these days were middling players at small colleges who were obsessive football nerds.