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Old 07-13-2010, 12:19 PM
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I know this early, but its the off season and I wanted to see if anyone here had something to add to this. I posted this on another board, but wanted you guys to comment on it.

My roster predictions:

2 QB Schaub, Orlovsky
3 RB Foster Slaton Tate
1 FB Leach
7 WR Johnson, Walters, Jones, Anderson, Davis, Holiday, Dickerson
3 TE Daniel, Casey, Graham, PUP Hill
3 OT Winston, Brown, Butler
6 OG/OC Meyers, Caldwell, W Smith, Briesel, S Smith, Studdard
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1 K Brown
1 P Turk
1 LS Weeks
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4 DE Mario, Barwin, Smith, Jamison,
5 DT Okoye, Cody, Mitchell, Sheppard, Okam ? (My only bubble guy, this could be Robinson)
6 LB Ryans, Diles, Adibi, Bentley, Clark, Sharpton, Roster exemption Cushing
6 CB Jackson, Quin, McCain, Molden, Reeves, McManus
4 S Pollard, Wilson, Nolan, Barber
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Key cuts Bennett, White, Dreessen, Bulman, DelJuan Robinson and Glenn Martinez

About the TE: Joel was signed to a reported 3 year deal for 3.6 million, that is not a reason to keep him.

We have 4 guys currently that are the same player for the most part, Daniels, Casey, Graham and Dreessen. One of those guys does not have room on the roster, which one do you think?

If ST is that high on the list, Casey is the "QB" of the punting team, being the up man, and he can also snap the ball, plus he is the emergency FB.

Graham was not drafted in the 4th only to be cut. IMO unless they trade Owen, Dreessen is the odd man out IMO.

Hill will start the year on the PUP, IMO, and we are going to have to make room for him at some point, or maybe he goes to the PS.

Maybe we shop Owen during the preseason when he has shown to be healthy, could we get a 3rd rounder fro him?
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:12 PM
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OD is one of the best TE's in the league. Dreesen has come into his own. Graham is still only an unproven rookie. He either goes to the PS or he gets cut.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:18 PM
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Looks like a well thought out guess. Obviously some things will develop in unexpected ways between now and the final cut down, but this makes sense for what we have.

WR may actually be more of a log jam then TE when you look at it. I doubt Jacoby, Andre Davis, Holliday, and Dickerson are all on the roster.

I would say that if Holliday can't win the primary return spot he won't stick. If he can, then I would bet either JJ or AD are gone depending on who they like more as a WR. And I don't think Dickerson makes the team unless he looks great on ST coverage. Because if his size/speed can't translate to ST then it never will to anything.
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Old 07-13-2010, 02:31 PM
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Davis will be gone. You can bet it as if it has already been played.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:17 PM
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Yep, I'd say that is pretty darn close - nice job.

A pre-season injury here or there could shuffle things up a bit... Players like Dickerson, Holliday, Graham, S Smith, possibly Sheppard might go on the PS or acquire a mysterious ailment that puts them on the PUP list.

I think they like Dreesen.... he might even be the #1 to start the season.....

Jeremiah Johnson? Might be PS again....

When Cushing comes back, I think one of Clark, Bentley, Adibi has to go...
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:32 PM
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Does anyone have the final cutdown list from last august? Specifically how many of each position we kept to get to 53.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:47 PM
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I think that unless they blow the doors off in camp, Holliday and Dickerson will be practiced-squaded. If they *do* make the roster, look for Jacoby Jones to become trade bait, possibly for a DB or an OLB. I could also see a TE as trade bait too.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:58 AM
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I like the roster. I think Davis is gone and Dickerson will be PS. This will allow two other people to be on roster. My guess is Hill will be on roster if healthy.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:40 PM
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I think they like JJ, who is finally starting to come into his own. Davis would be the goner, with Dickerson to the PS.

On defense I think LB Adibi needs to show he belongs.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:24 PM
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On defense I think LB Adibi needs to show he belongs.
He definitely belongs weeks 1-4.......

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Old 07-14-2010, 02:31 PM
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My breakdown by position is close to how the Texans broke camp last year. It's not exactly the same but it's close. I do not see guys being cut until better options exist to replace them on the roster.

Davis is a great gunner on punt coverage team, until we have a person to replace him at gunner I have him making the roster. Dickerson, a huge unknown right now, is a guy I do not see clearing waivers, so I think he is kept. Glenn Martinez is the odd man out IMO.

As for TE, I do not see us cutting a 4th round pick in order to try to sneak him to the practice squad. That said, Dreessen is the guy with the least upside. He was OK in Daniels absence but he is what he is. He has a hard time getting separation and he is coming off injury. Casey has impressed in OTAs. (Casey is coming off a knee scope after OTAs). I think barring anymore injuries Dreessen is gone.

As for Holliday, that man is on the team unless he blows it big time. Marciano loves that kid, and he is a bullet.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:14 PM
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I wanted to add the number by position that the Texans carried into the season, last year 53 man roster the number is in red on the left hand side
My roster predictions:

3 2 QB Schaub, Orlovsky
4 3 RB Foster Slaton Tate
1 1 FB Leach
6 7 WR Johnson, Walters, Jones, Anderson, Davis, Holiday, Dickerson
4 3 TE Daniel, Casey, Graham, PUP Hill
3 3 OT Winston, Brown, Butler
6 6 OG/OC Meyers, Caldwell, W Smith, Briesel, S Smith, Studdard
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1 1 K Brown
1 1 P Turk
0 1 LS Weeks
2 3

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9 DE Mario, Barwin, Smith, Jamison, DT Okoye, Cody, Mitchell, Sheppard, Okam ? (My only bubble guy, this could be Robinson)
6 6 LB Ryans, Diles, Adibi, Bentley, Clark, Sharpton, Roster exemption Cushing
9 10 DBs CB Jackson, Quin, McCain, Molden, Reeves, McManus, S Pollard, Wilson, Nolan, Barber
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IMO we keep the LS that takes away a TE, if all the TE on my list are healthy, (Hill excluded). This season I think we pass on the 3 string QB and that gives us an extra DB. If all 3 RB are healthy on cut down day then I see us keeping only 3, which allows us an extra WR.
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:21 AM
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OK, I guess that seems reasonable, however injuries, possible FA acquisitions, cuts, and other unforseen events (a possible lock-out?), I shudder to think of, could get in the way.
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:39 AM
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Minor , your red nos. add up to 55 not 53. Every team has about the same spread of players by position don't they, with minor variations?
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:47 AM
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Wow.... I hope Schaub plays all season long again. Why wont they sign a veteran back up QB and have a young QB learn as a 3rd stringer?
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Old 07-22-2010, 02:11 AM
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If Johnson shows anything and is healthy, I think he goes to the practice squad and we only keep 3 backs. Kubiak always likes to keep a back on the practice squad.
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Old 07-23-2010, 05:40 PM
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You're right about Davis' gunnerdom, and it may be enough to keep him around, just something in my gut tells me he's gone. That said, I won't be mad if he does make the squad. As for the 4th RB, I can't think of anyone that would be worth having on the 53, unless Johnson shows us something in preseason. even so, I think he's probably a taxi squad guy, so failing someone good getting cut from another team, I now agree that we carry 3 rb's, barring injuries.

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Old 07-19-2010, 03:54 PM
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I wanted to add the number by position that the Texans carried into the season, last year 53 man roster the number is in red on the left hand side
My roster predictions:

3 2 QB Schaub, Orlovsky
4 3 RB Foster Slaton Tate
1 1 FB Leach
6 7 WR Johnson, Walters, Jones, Anderson, Davis, Holiday, Dickerson
4 3 TE Daniel, Casey, Graham, PUP Hill
3 3 OT Winston, Brown, Butler
6 6 OG/OC Meyers, Caldwell, W Smith, Briesel, S Smith, Studdard
25

1 1 K Brown
1 1 P Turk
0 1 LS Weeks
2 3

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9 DE Mario, Barwin, Smith, Jamison, DT Okoye, Cody, Mitchell, Sheppard, Okam ? (My only bubble guy, this could be Robinson)
6 6 LB Ryans, Diles, Adibi, Bentley, Clark, Sharpton, Roster exemption Cushing
9 10 DBs CB Jackson, Quin, McCain, Molden, Reeves, McManus, S Pollard, Wilson, Nolan, Barber
25

IMO we keep the LS that takes away a TE, if all the TE on my list are healthy, (Hill excluded). This season I think we pass on the 3 string QB and that gives us an extra DB. If all 3 RB are healthy on cut down day then I see us keeping only 3, which allows us an extra WR.
The only way Okam stays is if he's better than last year. If he doesn't get serious, the Okam experiment is over.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:01 PM
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The only way Okam stays is if he's better than last year. If he doesn't get serious, the Okam experiment is over.
I agree 100%. We need a big body for short yardage, but he has to be able to carry his weight. We have 2 rookies that have a very good shot at making the team at DT and someone is going to loose a job. IMO Okam is the guy gone, but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt until I see more from him in preseason.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:29 PM
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I don't see how you can justify keeping Davis at his salary. He's proven worthless as a wide receiver as long as Angry Dre is healthy, and based on last season, he's lost a step in the return game. Holliday should beat him out there pretty easily. Lilliputians with 10-flat 100 times are pretty tough to tackle. If Holliday makes any strides whatsoever as a receiver, Davis is gone for sure. I don't see a whole lot else that I disagree with, though I'd like to see Dreesen stick around. He's serviceable, and I just like him. I think I may have been the first person ever to recognize him in public, and he was super cool, so I'm sure that plays a role. It also wouldn't surprise me if we carry four RB's.
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