Could Clowney-Bridgewater draft be possible?

[HPF Bob]

You have to take mocks at CBS Sports with a grain of salt but but three of their five experts now think the Texans will draft Clowney at 1-1 then two of them show Bridgewater falling almost to 2-1 but for the Jaguars jumping in front and trading with the Seahawks at 1-32.

The Patriots (who actually used two of their private visits this week on Bridgewater and Manzeil - keep in mind Brady is turning 37 this year) and the Broncos have histories of trading down low 1st-round picks could probably be talked into a trade down to 2-1 if the Texans offered a decent deal.

If the Texans gave up 2-1 and 4-1 to move up and take Bridgewater giving them a Clowney-Bridgewater draft, how would you feel about that? I think I'd feel pretty good. If it cost 2-1 and 3-1, I might feel differently.

[Nconroe]

Don't you think all mocks are just for fun right now?

It could be all of these QB are still available at end of first and due to none look like ready to start day 1.

So I wouldn't like to see Texans trade up for a QB right now.

I'd be happy with a non QB pick at top of second.

[HPF Bob]

O'Brien seems certain we will draft a QB (he didn't say where in the draft) but we already have Fitzpatrick and we aren't just letting go of Yates or Keenum it seems so I'd be happy with waiting around until the 3rd and getting Garappolo if he's still around or dealing that pick to the Redskins for Kirk Cousins. It really depends on what direction the braintrust is trying to go here and they aren't giving clear intentions.

Are we trying for a quick rebound to playoff contention or are we going with a 3-5 yr plan? If the former, take Clowney and start building a killer defense. If the latter, take Bortles and rebuild an offense while transitioning away from AJ and Foster who will be expensive albatrosses by that point.

[Arky]

I suppose it's possible but I'm thinking unlikely because I feel the "Big 3" will all be gone by the 15th pick..... 20th for sure...

I don't think any of 'em should be a day 1 starter and all should be brought along slowly but that just doesn't seem to happen very much anymore with 1st rounders...

[Blitzwood]

Funny you bring this up Bob, I was thinking of this last week. Draftsite has Bridgewater going 26 to Cleveland. His possible destinations are Minnesota 8, Buffalo 9, Tennessee 11, and Dallas 16. If he gets past Dallas, we would be smart to have a trade in place w San Diego at 25. Maybe our 2.1 and 4.1 and our 3rd next year.

Can you imagine having to face Manziel and Bridgewater twice a year for the next 10 years if they landed in Jacksonville and Tennessee, respectively!? Not to mention Andrew Luck...

1.1. - J. Clowney, DE
1.25. - T. Bridgewater, QB
2.33. - Traded to S.D.
3.65. - Christian Jones, ILB/OLB
4.101. Traded to S.D.
4.135. - Jack Mewhort, OT
5.141. - Trai Turner, OG
6.177. - Antone Exum, CB/S
6.181. - Rajion Neal, RB
6.211. - Glen Carson, ILB

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Funny you bring this up Bob, I was thinking of this last week. Draftsite has Bridgewater going 26 to Cleveland. His possible destinations are Minnesota 8, Buffalo 9, Tennessee 11, and Dallas 16. If he gets past Dallas, we would be smart to have a trade in place w San Diego at 25. Maybe our 2.1 and 4.1 and our 3rd next year.

Can you imagine having to face Manziel and Bridgewater twice a year for the next 10 years if they landed in Jacksonville and Tennessee, respectively!? Not to mention Andrew Luck...

1.1. - J. Clowney, DE
1.25. - T. Bridgewater, QB
2.33. - Traded to S.D.
3.65. - Christian Jones, ILB/OLB
4.101. Traded to S.D.
4.135. - Jack Mewhort, OT
5.141. - Trai Turner, OG
6.177. - Antone Exum, CB/S
6.181. - Rajion Neal, RB
6.211. - Glen Carson, ILB

If it's scary to face manziel and bridgewater for the next 10 years then one should be the top pick.

[HPF Bob]

I'm not really that worried about Manziel in a place like J'ville because I doubt he has the patience to develop there. Bridgewater, a Miami product, could be a different story.

Of course, I remind myself that I was the one proclaiming Errict Rhett to be an NFL star and thought Emmitt Smith would be a bust.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by barrett

If it's scary to face manziel and bridgewater for the next 10 years then one should be the top pick.

Says who, Mel Kiper, Mcshay.....? Internet draftniks? That's a common misconception alot of people have. Think Jimmy Graham would be taken in the 3rd again, or Russell Wilson, or capernick in the 2nd? Im sure Watt wouldnt last to 11 again. Drafts are always a crap shot. If Manziel falls to the 3rd, that won't make him any less of a pain to defend, that's for sure. If anything he'll play with a bigger chip on his shoulder.

That being said, if we could get a Manziel or Bridgewater in the second, i think that would be excellent value. I really like Bridgewater myself, but id also be happy with a Savage or garrapalo in the 3rd.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Says who, Mel Kiper, Mcshay.....? Internet draftniks? That's a common misconception alot of people have. Think Jimmy Graham would be taken in the 3rd again, or Russell Wilson, or capernick in the 2nd? Im sure Watt wouldnt last to 11 again. Drafts are always a crap shot. If Manziel falls to the 3rd, that won't make him any less of a pain to defend, that's for sure. If anything he'll play with a bigger chip on his shoulder.

That being said, if we could get a Manziel or Bridgewater in the second, i think that would be excellent value. I really like Bridgewater myself, but id also be happy with a Savage or garrapalo in the 3rd.

If there is a QB starved team at the top of the draft and a 10 year starter that scares other teams it's a no brainier pick. Any QB that can start on one team for 10 years is worth the pick.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by barrett

If there is a QB starved team at the top of the draft and a 10 year starter that scares other teams it's a no brainier pick. Any QB that can start on one team for 10 years is worth the pick.

Right. Thanks for stating the obvious.

Everyone knows there isn't a can't miss, Andrew Luck type QB in this draft.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Right. Thanks for stating the obvious.

Everyone knows there isn't a can't miss, Andrew Luck type QB in this draft.

That was my point in the first post. You are talking about fearing 2 guys for the next 10 YEARS who you don't think are good enough to draft. If you really believed a guy would haunt us for 10 years you'd at least lead off your mock draft with the guy.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by barrett

That was my point in the first post. You are talking about fearing 2 guys for the next 10 YEARS who you don't think are good enough to draft. If you really believed a guy would haunt us for 10 years you'd at least lead off your mock draft with the guy.

Barrett,
1st. Go back and read the title of this thread. Taking a QB first in my mock would defeat the whole premise of what we're trying to do here. (in theory )
2nd. I never said I "feared, was scared, or haunted" by Manziel or Bridgewater, you did. I said "imagine if we had to play these 2 in our division". Probably should have added if they pan out. But anyhow, I was not implying it to sound as dire as you're trying to make it out to be.
I'll save that for next year when the top 3 QB's are alot more "scary".

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Barrett,
1st. Go back and read the title of this thread. Taking a QB first in my mock would defeat the whole premise of what we're trying to do here. (in theory )
2nd. I never said I "feared, was scared, or haunted" by Manziel or Bridgewater, you did. I said "imagine if we had to play these 2 in our division". Probably should have added if they pan out. But anyhow, I was not implying it to sound as dire as you're trying to make it out to be.
I'll save that for next year when the top 3 QB's are alot more "scary".

Got it. I guess I just read more into it than you meant. It just seemed odd to worry about "having to face" a couple of guys almost everyone is lukewarm on.

As for next year, who are the scary QBs then?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by barrett

Got it. I guess I just read more into it than you meant. It just seemed odd to worry about "having to face" a couple of guys almost everyone is lukewarm on.

As for next year, who are the scary QBs then?

Jameis Winston, FSU
Marcus Mariota, Oregon
Brett Hundley, UCLA

Petty, from Baylor, and the kid from Oklahoma, Trevor Knight, are expected to make a push as well.

[Nconroe]

Sounds as though Mettenberger had a very good workout
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...-lsus-pro-day/

Question is how many will be left at start of second and or third round?