Kubiak’s job could hinge on 2nd half

coloradodude · #1 11-08-2008, 07:02 PM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/6099573.html

Commentary: Kubiak’s job could hinge on 2nd half
By JEROME SOLOMON Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Nov. 6, 2008, 9:16PM

Didn't we all see this one coming?

barrett · #2 11-08-2008, 08:13 PM

He hitched his star to a QB who had never been a starter (multiple draft picks and big contract). That is the kind of decision that if you are wrong, you get fired. Hopefully, the team can salvage it for him. Otherwise we are in full rebuilding mode (which would be unfair since you should have to win for a while before you rebuild).

NBT · #3 11-09-2008, 12:52 PM

Very unfair to the fans. But it is the way it has always been done in Houston. We are hexed when it comes to our pro football teams.

NBT · #4 11-09-2008, 12:53 PM

It seems that the longer Kubiak has been here the more inflexible he has become.

NBT · #5 11-09-2008, 03:20 PM

After today's humiliating loss to Baltimore at home, I've had it with this administration. I've lost all hope. The offense couldn't hold the ball (6 turnovers, I believe), and a defense that was so porous, swiss cheese would look tight! I had great expectations for the Texans when Kubiak came aboard but he has shown he is not man enough for the job. In the first place he should have fired Richard Smith a long time ago and let Bush see what he could do down the stretch. But he seems to be unable to do anything but get more and more conservative. All to the detriment of this team. I am tired to death of starting over, but I now see no other recourse.

coloradodude · #6 11-09-2008, 04:04 PM

And I'd say he's about done now.

barrett · #7 11-09-2008, 05:58 PM

I think Kubs is in big trouble. I said a few months back I thought we had a good coach who had gameday coaching lessons to learn he likely wouldn't figure out until his next Head Job (like many NFL coaches Bellachik/dungy/etc). Or maybe he is just bad. Either way I don't think he survives the off-season IF there is a great candidate out there interested.

So my question is... is there a great candidate out there who might be interested. If so lets officially start the internet rumors right here.

coloradodude · #8 11-09-2008, 07:33 PM

Sign me up for Schottenheimer.

barrett · #9 11-09-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

Sign me up for Schottenheimer.

I wouldn't mind him at all. A very good coach. I think him getting pushed out in SD was a crime. The GM (like many NFL execs) was obsessed with getting his own guys in there and Marty was winning without them so AJ Smith sabotaged him at every step. And with all that he still did a great job, and I think is being proven right in there collapse this year.

My only beef is that Andre Johnson is the one piece we have I would not replace. Because of this I would probably prefer a coach who is known for the passing game.

coloradodude · #10 11-09-2008, 10:16 PM

I bet you Schottenheimer would come here and upgrade two guys on the O line and the secondary and win 10 games. He would also add some thunder to our lightening at RB.

HPF Bob · #11 11-09-2008, 10:32 PM

We had a defensive-minded head coach and our offense completely sucked. Now we have an offensive-minded coach and our defense has completely sucked. Eventually, we'll find somebody who can coach both sides of the ball.

coloradodude · #12 11-10-2008, 12:20 AM

I've looked at this from a few angles and what I see is that we've had a guy who is a proven loser as a head coach. Then we hired a guy with no head coaching experience.

I really had extra high hopes when we hired Alex Gibbs. I figured he could work in areas that Koobs had limited experience in and that would balance things out. I'm either 100% wrong or we just need another two or three years...or mediocre (or less) football.

This reminds me of the time period just before Glanville came to town.

TheMatrix31 · #13 11-10-2008, 04:28 AM

I personally don't think it's ALL Kubiak's fault. I love Kubiak's "fortitude".

What about Cowher?

popanot · #14 11-10-2008, 08:58 AM

The problem with firing Kubiak this year is a lot of teams will be looking for a HC and the field will be lacking good, qualified candidates. The Rams, Raiders, Lions, Browns, Bengals, Seahawks, and 49ers will very likely be looking for a HC, with the Chiefs, Chargers, Colts, Cowpies, Vikings and Jags potentially looking for a HC.

I'd have no problem bringing in Schottenheimer, but they'd probably have to move quick on him with all the potential vacancies. No way Cowher comes here. He'll get a big offer in a location and situation far better than Houston.

coloradodude · #15 11-10-2008, 07:02 PM

Screw Cower! I'm so sick of those "special moments" comments on the NFL channel...what about the next season after he finally won a questionable Suberbowl. They won, what, 6 or 7 games? And then he was gone.

Give me somebody with some fortitude! Like this guy...

"Jack Pardee was one of the famed Junction Boys, the 1954 Texas A&M preseason camp held in Junction, Texas, by football coach Paul "Bear" Bryant. He was part of the 35 left from the approximately 100 players who went to Junction, Texas."

nunusguy · #16 11-11-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

Sign me up for Schottenheimer.

I dunno, but I suspect the one way to bring Marty-Ball to H-Town would
be to offer him the HC-GM combo. Would McNair be willing to relinquish that much control to one person ?

Keith · #17 11-11-2008, 11:00 AM

How intertwined is Rick Smith to Gary Kubiak? Remember when Smith received his extension (to 2012) over the summer, and I questioned the timing? This was a move largely applauded here and elsewhere, but those of you thinking Kubiak is close to being axed, how do you view Smith?

http://www.inthebullseye.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68

http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2008/20080604.html

popanot · #18 11-11-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

How intertwined is Rick Smith to Gary Kubiak? Remember when Smith received his extension (to 2012) over the summer, and I questioned the timing? This was a move largely applauded here and elsewhere, but those of you thinking Kubiak is close to being axed, how do you view Smith?

I think McNair's objective enough to separate to two from each other. I'm sure it would be tough on Smith if he had to fire Kubiak. If it comes down to it though, I think Smith will do what he has to do and the franchise will move forward. As for Smith, I don't think he's done anything all that great, nor do I think he's done anything all that bad. I'm not real pleased with some of his FA moves (Green, Colvin, and the never-ending stream of ex-Bronco players) and picking Amobi over Willis, but those aren't enough for me to feel he should be fired at this point.

coloradodude · #19 11-11-2008, 03:23 PM

I wonder what Sly is thinking about now?

Mike · #20 11-11-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

I wonder what Sly is thinking about now?

I file that into my "I could really give a flip about that moron."