RGIII a future Texan?

[NBT]

If QB RGIII from Bayloor is available in the second round of this next draft, would you give up a second for him?

[Joshua]

I haven't watched RGIII closely enough to have a specific opinion on him, but I have absolutely no problem with us spending a high draft pick on a QB. In fact, I would welcome it.

[HPF Bob]

No. He has better throwing mechanics than Vince Young but he's essentially Vince Young. His game doesn't translate to the NFL. By the fifth round, I *might* consider him depending on how his combine/pro day appearances go.

[painekiller]

He is listed as 6-3 and 210lbs, for an NFL QB a little on the small side. Yes I know there are exceptions to the rule, but I am not looking for a QB playing in a gimmick offense.

As Joshua said, I would welcome an early QB in this draft, but not sure if this is the right guy.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

No. He has better throwing mechanics than Vince Young but he's essentially Vince Young. His game doesn't translate to the NFL. By the fifth round, I *might* consider him depending on how his combine/pro day appearances go.

Where have I heard this before.....oh yea, when Cam Newton was being evaluated.

He's not stinking it up after all in Carolina, I've seen this kid play, he's legit.

[WMH]

While I would lean more Blitz's way than Bob's, I don't see this kid being available in the 2nd. Too many QB needy teams out there, plus, I think the kid can flat out play. Better/more accurate than VY, with lesser talent around him, IMO.

Our draft will hinge on our success this year. We win the division, Kubiak stays and gets an extension. Schaub is tied to him, and will likely receive the same extension.

We lose, new regime will likely want "their" QB, so there's really no telling what would/could happen. Could end up picking 1 mid 1st. With the new salary structure, not as big of a deal to draft a QB of the future and let him sit while Schaub plays out his contract.

Just my opinion.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Where have I heard this before.....oh yea, when Cam Newton was being evaluated.

He's not stinking it up after all in Carolina, I've seen this kid play, he's legit.

Not so much here but on other boards, I was saying that Newton had excellent throwing mechanics and a tight spiral, something I never saw from Young or Tebow. What I questioned about Newton was his maturity. Is he the sort of kid that's not going to read defenses or not going to stay out of trouble? But I had no questions about his physical skills.

I haven't watched a lot of Baylor games but I haven't been wowed by Griffin's passing skills. What makes him exceptional is his legs. I will say, however, that his completion percentage has been exceptional this year but Vince also led the NCAA in completion pct. in his junior year.

[NBT]

Thanks gents, I appreciate your comments.

If Kubs doesn't turn this team around, and I mean start winning again by beating the Titans, We will be in another dismal 3 year rebuilding cycle, after he is gone. I don't know if I could take that. But then, what's the alternative?

Kubs is trying to turn the playcallin over to the OC and just control the game, but this one is not a Baby Shanny, and I don't think he is taking to it very well.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by NBT

If Kubs doesn't turn this team around, and I mean start winning again by beating the Titans, We will be in another dismal 3 year rebuilding cycle, after he is gone.

I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

[Joshua]

Agree with Chuck. I see no reason why a new coach would need 3 years to whip this team into shape. If this is the case, someone needs to call Harbaugh in SF and tell him to slow down. He's 2 years and 10 games ahead of schedule.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

Absolutely. Go watch the talentless niners and tell me there is such a thing as a 3 year rebuilding process in the NFL. Nobody is that far from winning. Only bad coaching can lead to prolonged losing in today's NFL.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

No. He has better throwing mechanics than Vince Young but he's essentially Vince Young. His game doesn't translate to the NFL. By the fifth round, I *might* consider him depending on how his combine/pro day appearances go.

He has little in common with young other than race. He is undersized but a fantastic passer. Nobody throws a deep ball half as well in college football. Also one if the most accurate passers in the NCAA (total opposite of young).

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

Absolutely. Go watch the talentless niners and tell me there is such a thing as a 3 year rebuilding process in the NFL. Nobody is that far from winning. Only bad coaching can lead to prolonged losing in today's NFL.

Bad ownership can do that, too, definitely. I like the Niners, and I like the Lions, too, for that matter, but I feel like the Texans are better, much better, up and down the roster. You know I'd love to say so if I thought different, but there it is. I mean, Alex Smith? Are you joking?

[NBT]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't agree at all. There is more than enough talent on the roster to where a competent head coach could come aboard and win immediately. There's not Super Bowl talent (yet), but there is definitely playoff talent.

Hello Chuck, how is the climate where you are? Warm & sunny I would wager. Always nice to hear again from a friendly enemy.

You know as well as I do that a new coach will also bring his broom. Who would you suggest for head coach? One who would keep the WCO, but probably opt for a new QB, #2WR, & blocking FB. Probably some of the OLinemen would be out of work or relegated to backup.

It is more than time for McNair to change his mindset, and go for some of the high profile FAs to augment a team that is 85% there.

But more than likely McNair will go the easy route and just elevate Wade, who is an excellent DC, but not a viable HC.

[HPF Bob]

There's no question in my mind that if Kubiak is fired in the next 15 months, Wade Phillips will be named the next head coach. One thing we know about McNair is that he's not a creative thinker. He's going to do the most predictable move and that's going to be promoting Phillips. Don't get your hopes up for anyone else.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

There's no question in my mind that if Kubiak is fired in the next 15 months, Wade Phillips will be named the next head coach. One thing we know about McNair is that he's not a creative thinker. He's going to do the most predictable move and that's going to be promoting Phillips. Don't get your hopes up for anyone else.

I sorta thought that getting the HC job if Kubiak was fired was a condition of employment that Wade insisted upon before he agreed to take the DC job ?

[barrett]

I hope Wade doesn't want the job. At some point you'd like to think he would figure out what he is and what he isn't, no matter how many owners keep being convinced by his great coordinator performances that the head coaching failures don't count.

Of course, he has won more Cowboys playoff games than all the other cowboys coaches combined in the last 15 years.

[edo783]

A man has ta know his limitations ........ and HC is Wades. Big mistake to go that route. Not sure Kubes isn't in then same boat .... but, together they may make it work.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by NBT

Hello Chuck, how is the climate where you are? Warm & sunny I would wager. Always nice to hear again from a friendly enemy.

You and I aren't enemies, not as far as I'm concerned. We're all friends here despite the various and inevitable disagreements.

If the team loses two more games before the bye - a definite possibility - I'll start looking seriously into replacement coaches, not because anyone cares what I think but simply to daydream a bit. In something of an about-face I think my current inclination would be to go young and relatively unknown. But smart. I wonder what it would be like to have an intelligent head coach.

I would be happy to upgrade Schaub and Jacoby but I firmly believe the team (when healthy) can win with both. As much as I loved Vonta I am perfectly happy with Casey at TE for reasons that have been discussed here previously. No, he is not the bulldozer blocker that one might wish for but he causes so many problems for defenses that I think that one tradeoff is more than made up for by his versatility.

Yes, it is warm here and lately anyway unusually sunny. November and December are by far the rainiest months here in my immediate area and the rains usually pick up as November approaches. So far it's been relatively dry with more sunny days than I'd expect. Today was spectacularly sunny. I could see distant clouds on the other side of the continental divide (where the climate patters are totally different) and some thunderheads well out to sea, but here it was beautiful. I can tell that the dry season is approaching because the humidity is often surprisingly low during the day. Any of you who lives in Houston or has spent any time there will know exactly how this feels. When I say surprisingly low I mean like 70% or 75% rather than 90%. But the difference is immediately palpable. You'll get some days like that in October in Houston but more often they pile up in November. It's not cool during the day. It's never cool during the day at sea level here. But you can stand around outside and not sweat through your shirt in five minutes. Hell, it might take ten or fifteen. The nights are beautiful. I imagine now it's low seventies, low humidity. Clear skies, lots of stars. I practically never use air conditioning because my house is reasonably open and well ventilated but I very recently quit being a total idiot and covered (and extended) the perfectly ample back patio, put down some nice tile, built an outdoor kitchen along one side, bought a particularly nice outdoor sofa set and a dining table. So I'm planning to spend the great majority of my time out there going forward.

[TheMatrix31]

I would much rather spend a higher pick on a WR or safety.

As is plain as day, our WR corps is absolutely nothing without Andre, and is causing us to lose games.