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Originally Posted by idymoe
Outstanding to have this site up!!!!
My question is, if Williams and Albert are gone, do the Texans value either Cherilus, Nicks, or Brown enough to "reach" for them at 18? You could throw Collins in there, too, I guess.
If you really like one of those guys, do you let 1st round money keep you from taking him?
The knee jerk answer is BPA, don't reach. This is a myth, IMHO, because evaluation is so inexact.
if you could have Nicks and Antwaun Molden versus Cason and maybe John Greko, or some other combinations, does that at lease make you consider a lower ranked OT in the first?
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After the college football season was over, Chris Williams was a guy that PK and I were all over because he was considered a 3rd round pick. During the post-season - Williams is being talked about as a top 15 guy. Conversely, Carl Nicks has had some "off field" issues come up that have caused him to drop significantly. I believe Draft Scout currently has him as a 4th round pick!
My best case scenario has us trading down and selecting Cason, Nicks, and Forte with our top 3 picks.
However, your question is do I want a Combo of Cason and say Duane Brown or Nicks and Molden. I'd have to say Cason and whowever is available later on. There is a risk that Molden might not be available in the 3rd when we select. Even if he were, that drop off is too steep for me to swallow. Also, with Alex Gibbs on board their is a wild card named Brandon Frye already on my roster. He has the athleticism of a Duane Brown and Chris Williams and with good coaching could contribute this season. Also, I'd be hating myself if Carl Nicks was on the board in the 3rd round when we picked and I reached for Collins at #18 in order to then have to settle for Molden.
Let me also state that I was one of the 1st Molden supporters after I saw him play in the Texas vs. The Nation game. Then when I saw what he did at the Combine vs. DR-C, I proposed that this other small school CB wasn't getting the same type of hype. However, Molden has some considerable risk. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a 4th round project like Fred Bennett was last year. The thing that worries me is that our secondary isn't something that I want to be gambling with.
There is a reason I have Cason above Williams and Albert. He makes this team better than those guys can on day one. If Nicks isn't there in the 3rd, I could see Gibbs working some magic with a guy like Jeremy Zuttah or Frye like I have already mentioned.
I agree with this BPA philosophy being sort of a myth. That's why I don't feel as if Cason or even Nicks would be a "reach" at the #18 slot if we can't trade down. A "reach" is currently being defined as a player who is not being predicted to being selected at a certain slot in the draft. Most of the people doing the predicting are no better talent evaluators than any of us. Sure, the media outlets perhaps talk to more NFL scouts and GMs, but even those guys get it wrong. I remember last year Mike Mayock saying that he couldn't believe that Adrian Peterson went that high to Minn, and Craig "Buster" Davis wasn't even on his list of top available prospects when the Chargers drafted the WR from LSU. It's comical to hear the "experts" project that there is no way Matt Ryan slides past the Ravens this year when only last year those same "experts" proclaimed with 100% certainty that Quinn's worst case scenario was #9 to Miami.