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Originally Posted by mussop
Not really! I just think you are looking at the positives and Im looking at the negatives. With the possible steriod allegations and only one year of real production, he just isnt worth the 15th pick IMO. His best year he had
GP TKL TFL SK PBU INT
2008 13 73 10.5 3.0 6 1
Thats just not good enough for me. I want an impact player at 15 or a trade down.
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Yeah, my point is that if you only focus on the positive or the negative, you come out with two very different perspectives on the same matter.
It may be a moot point anyway, TexansChick at chron.com points out that last year staff suggested that CB is a deep position and noted how we went there in the middle rounds. It is just one example and I would like more to delineate a trend, but it is interesting.
http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/
Rick Smith suggested that Linebacker and Safety are deep positions, and so she suggests that we may go there after the first. If this were true then it would leave the D-line and maybe CB as the positions we will address in the first round.
If that is the case then you are looking at Orakpo, Brown, possibly Michael Johnson after he blows up the 40 in the combine, or Maybin on the DE side, Jerry on the DL side since Raji will likely be gone, and Vontae Davis, Alphonso Smith and D.J. Moore on the CB side.
Supposing that we keep Dunta, I don't think we go to the CB well. D-line then becomes the odds on favorite. Since Raji will likely be gone then Jerry becomes the go to. He is more of a one gap penetrator, and that we already have in Okoye. But considering that is the stated defensive theme of this coordinator. So maybe but I don't think so.
That leaves DE, and at that point any of Orakpo, Brown, Johnson, and Maybin could be available.
Out of those, Johnson is the most athletic with the best speed and alot of upside, Maybin has perhaps the most upside as a pass rusher, through Brown, is up there too.
Orakpo is perhaps the most complete 4-3 end, has a good first step, good production, and has improved in run stopping. Brown has all the physical tools but I always have questions about FSU d lineman, plus he is supposedly on the rise. On certain charts, Brown and Maybin will be gone by the time we draft.
That leaves Orakpo and Johnson. Orakpo is the only one with value at 15. So Orakpo or trade down. I vote trade down, and if they are still in love with a DE, Orakpo will likely be gone if they trade down more than a couple of picks.
A prime trade down target is Detroit, who could do a Clevand kinda of draft day move. Detroit might trade down thier first pick if they have a chance but they might not. You can kinda sense that out this they want a QB and a LT. LT would likely be the first pick as the top 4 likely won't make it out of the top 15.
So they take Andre Smith, Jason Smith, Michael Oher or Eugene Monroe with the first pick, they will probably still have a shot at one of teh top two QBs if they trade up from 20. There are three QB hungry teams at 17, 18, and 19 with the Jets, Bucs, and Bears. So they will have to trade up with us or the Chargers and the Chargers may not make a move if Orakpo or one of the other top OLB/DE's is on the board, so that leaves us, and we have some leverage there.
Which equates to about a 3rd. So provided that happens we are then in possession of the # 20 pick and an additional third at the top of the round.
That could be neat, you could go Cushing, Kruger, Rashad Johnson, etc.
Sorry thats a long post, got a little carried away.