[painekiller]

Bob, I understand your point about the turnover, and I understand your choice of the Saints.

My point is I want this team to model the great franchises not the weak ones. Pittsburgh during this Kubiak era changed HC and have won another Super Bowl. The core of players did not change with the coaching change. They have 26 players still on the roster that where on the roster in 2006.

The HC they hired was not a 3-4 guy, but the team had a system in place and they would not mess with it. So they have core of veteran players familiar with the system.

Now BTW the Steelers have lost coach after coach and yet they keep on winning.

Now my biggest point is we have never had the 26 veteran players worth keeping, heck even 15 players would have us ahead of where we are now.

I agree the defensive change has something to do with this, but we only have 2 offensive guys left.

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I just compared the Saints rosters and they 17 players still on the roster. 3 times the players. I think I have a valid point.