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HPF Bob 11-24-2013 05:42 PM

Poll: Who would you want as the Texans' Head Coach in 2014?
 
Poll: Who would you want as the Texans' Head Coach in 2014?

a) Gary Kubiak
b) Wade Phillips
c) Kevin Sumlin
d) Bill Cowher
e) Jon Gruden
f) Lane Kiffin
g) Art Briles
h) a Belichick disciple
i) a Harbaugh spawn
j) other (please name)

WMH 11-24-2013 06:59 PM

David Shaw is intriguing.

In all honesty, I don't think 5 of the guys on your list are remotely in the picture.
GK, WP, JG, BC, and Lane are the longest of longshots.

painekiller 11-24-2013 07:12 PM

Why would anyone want Lane Kiffin.

BigBull 11-24-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36504)
Poll: Who would you want as the Texans' Head Coach in 2014?

a) Gary Kubiak
b) Wade Phillips
c) Kevin Sumlin
d) Bill Cowher
e) Jon Gruden
f) Lane Kiffin
g) Art Briles
h) a Belichick disciple
i) a Harbaugh spawn
j) other (please name)

I go with j) Cleveland Browns' Ray Horton. His defenses in Arizona and in Cleveland have been stellar.

barrett 11-24-2013 09:29 PM

Since we will either be starting over at QB or going with a guy with 10 starts, I want whoever we think is best at developing QB talent. Gruden did a heck of a job with Gannon and Brad Johnson. Sumlin is intriguing. I would interview him for sure and pick his brain on Manziel in the process. I am sure there are plenty of other offensive minds.

Briles is a great offensive mind but he is a perfect fit as a college coach and is born to recruit and glad hand and network. Those are awesome skills for a college HC, but don't really translate completely to the NFL in my eyes. He would be smarter to go to UT or some place similar.

I wouldn't hire Kiffin if I was the principal at a local HS.

Cowher is too far removed in my opinion. Plus with any good defensive coach you have to make a great OC hire. And then any success on offense means that OC is gone for then next HC job that opens up. I think continuity in offensive scheme is too important to be replacing OCs every other year. Defensive schemes are installed faster and produce results faster so I would rather have to replace a successful DC.

nunusguy 11-25-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36504)
Poll: Who would you want as the Texans' Head Coach in 2014?

a) Gary Kubiak
b) Wade Phillips
c) Kevin Sumlin
d) Bill Cowher
e) Jon Gruden
f) Lane Kiffin
g) Art Briles
h) a Belichick disciple
i) a Harbaugh spawn
j) other (please name)

Don't look now, but San Fran is next to last in its own division and in a real struggle to make it into this upcoming post season. And this from the team that many have been saying for a couple of years has the best personnel in the NFL. Maybe they do, but as we know if your QB is playing poorly it won't be reflected in the "W-L" columns. So I think the appeal for a "Harbaugh spawn" is, well just less appealing now than perhaps it was just a short time agon.
McNair & the Texans need to make a "smart" choice instead of going for a PR move at HC like they did with their top FA signing in the most recent off season.

WMH 11-25-2013 08:44 AM

Lovie Smith will likely get an interview too.

Warren 11-25-2013 05:15 PM

Here’s some names not previously mentioned who have gotten some notice as potential NFL HC candidates:

Darrell Bevell, Sea OC
Pete Carmichael Jr., NO OC
Tom Clements, GB OC
Adam Gase, Den OC
Jay Gruden, Cin OC
Pep Hamilton, Ind OC
Aaron Kromer, Chi OC/OL
Josh McDaniels, NE OC
Greg Roman, SF OC
Ken Whisenhunt, SD OC
Todd Bowles, Arz DC
Mike Zimmer, Cin DC
Dave Toub, KC ST
Charlie Strong, Louisville HC

The last time McNair was looking for a head coach he brought in Dan Reeves as a consultant. If he does bring an outside perspective again I hope it’s someone with more experience in the front office. Ron Wolf consulted for the Chargers last year.

I could also see him leaning towards someone with an offensive background since developing a young QB is in the team’s future. If he goes that route it wouldn’t surprise me if he tried to keep Wade on board, especially if the new guy is a first-time HC.

Roy P 11-25-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren (Post 36539)
Here’s some names not previously mentioned who have gotten some notice as potential NFL HC candidates:

Tom Clements, GB OC

I could also see him leaning towards someone with an offensive background since developing a young QB is in the team’s future. If he goes that route it wouldn’t surprise me if he tried to keep Wade on board, especially if the new guy is a first-time HC.

I'd go with Clements and keep Wade as the DC. Keeping the WCO should help the offense to perform sooner instead of going through the growing pains of a completely different scheme. Plus, this guy has a decent history with tutoring QBs.

Blitzwood 11-25-2013 08:52 PM

I'd go with:


1. Tony Dungee**
2. Jon Gruden*
3. Bill Cowher
4. Tom Clements
5. Adam Gase

barrett 11-25-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzwood (Post 36544)
I'd go with:


1. Tony Dungee**
2. Jon Gruden*
3. Bill Cowher
4. Tom Clements
5. Adam Gase

The Tampa 2 scheme that Dungy excelled with in Tampa and Indy has basically been legislated out of existence with the rules changes. Since you cannot hit guys who go over the middle, TEs and slot receivers are 10Xs more valuable than they were ten years ago. So a cover 2 scheme that dares the opposing QB to attack up the seam is obsolete (See Monty Kiffin in Dallas). Playing zone, keeping everything in front of you, and tackling, just isn't a recipe for success when you aren't allowed to make guys pay for catching the ball in front of you (like John Lynch did).

I would be interested to see how flexible Dungy would be and what kind of scheme he would run to account for it being almost a whole new game. I am very impressed by him as a coach and man so I would guess he'd figure it out, but it would be a concern for any defensive guy out as long as him.

bono 11-25-2013 09:16 PM

I like what I read on Bevell.

I'm not an advocate on keeping Wade. If we're going to clean house, let's do it all the way.

painekiller 11-25-2013 10:49 PM

I was high on Jay Gruden in the past, now, not so much. You can take him off any list I am advocating.

How about Dan Quinn DC Seattle?

Bob Sutton DC Chiefs?

Marty Mornhinweg OC Jets, a WCO guy?

This one was listed by Warren, Pete Carmichael Jr., NO OC, interesting, 42 years old, never been a HC on any level, father was a former OC in the NFL.

HPF Bob 11-26-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36516)
Lovie Smith will likely get an interview too.

Lovie would be a great defensive coach but his offenses were terrible.

Guys with no head coaching background are always risky, as are some college coaches, even great ones (Lou Holtz, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier).

I like the Clements idea because he's had to fit a lot of different parts with the Packers and is a WCO guy. Of course, maybe it means Dom Capers returns as his security blanket on defense.

Right now, I have a far better idea of who I don't want instead of who I do want.

HPF Bob 11-26-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 36545)
The Tampa 2 scheme that Dungy excelled with in Tampa and Indy has basically been legislated out of existence with the rules changes. Since you cannot hit guys who go over the middle, TEs and slot receivers are 10Xs more valuable than they were ten years ago. So a cover 2 scheme that dares the opposing QB to attack up the seam is obsolete (See Monty Kiffin in Dallas). Playing zone, keeping everything in front of you, and tackling, just isn't a recipe for success when you aren't allowed to make guys pay for catching the ball in front of you (like John Lynch did).

I would be interested to see how flexible Dungy would be and what kind of scheme he would run to account for it being almost a whole new game. I am very impressed by him as a coach and man so I would guess he'd figure it out, but it would be a concern for any defensive guy out as long as him.

That's a great point. Defenses now are all about getting to the QB because they've outlawed hitting people. Would be nice to have coaches that emphasize tackling rather than just bumping. I'm so tired of missed tackles.

painekiller 11-26-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 36548)
Right now, I have a far better idea of who I don't want instead of who I do want.

Count me in this group also.

WMH 11-29-2013 02:48 PM

Can Cameron got an interview in '05, think he'll get another?

Usually has a pretty good O. Has done a lot with a usually boring LSU O, plus helped Mettenbergers stock soar.

barrett 11-29-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36561)
Can Cameron got an interview in '05, think he'll get another?

Usually has a pretty good O. Has done a lot with a usually boring LSU O, plus helped Mettenbergers stock soar.

He also ran a very average Baltimore O that took off when he was replaced by Jim Caldwell. When Jim "cardboard cutout" Caldwell is an upgrade then the original must have been terrible.

WMH 11-30-2013 12:32 PM

Not sure how much weight I'd put in this, but.....

@BFeldmanCBS: BREAKING: Kevin Sumlin has recommitted to stay as the head coach at Texas A&M, sources told CBS Saturday. #Aggies

WMH 11-30-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMH (Post 36570)
Not sure how much weight I'd put in this, but.....

@BFeldmanCBS: BREAKING: Kevin Sumlin has recommitted to stay as the head coach at Texas A&M, sources told CBS Saturday. #Aggies

Ok, got a little heavier, at least for this year. Oh well, he's never had a D that was worth a shit.

@MarkBermanFox26: Texas A and M announces it has reached an agreement in principle on a new 6-year contract with Kevin Sumlin


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