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7 Round Mock
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
20 Houston Joe McKnight* RB 6'0" 200 USC 51 Houston Patrick Robinson CB 5'11" 194 Florida State 82 Houston Jordan Shipley WR 6'0" 195 Texas 116 Houston John Jerry OG 6'5" 348 Mississippi 147 Houston Nate Collins DT 6'2" 290 Virginia 158 Houston (from San Diego) Tim Hiller QB 6'5" 225 Western Michigan 178 Houston Josh Pinkard S 6'1" 215 USC 212 Houston Kenny Alfred OC 6'2" 300 Washington State My Cherry Pick 20 Trent Williams OT 6'5" 320 Oklahoma 51 Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest 82 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 116 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn 147 Nate Collins DT 6'2" 290 Virginia 158 Myron Lewis CB 6'2" 200 Vanderbilt 178 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa 212 Jay Ross DT 6'3" 305 East Carolina Williams and Asamoah makes the OL formidable. I hate spending a first round pick on a LG, but Chester Pitts may not be back from injury and we saw a bad run team get worse. A line of Brown, Williams, Caldwell, Asamoah, Winston brings a smile to my face. I'm giving Ghee a shot at CB to replace Dunta Robinson, at worst, he's a FS like the Cards' Antrel Rolle who can match up with Dallas Clark. Lewis is another CB/FS tweener who may get on the field faster than Molden. Ben Tate is insurance for Foster and Slaton. With an improved OL, I'm betting the running game improves without spending a top pick on a position that may only produce 3-4 years. Collins makes Zgonina expendable and Ross does the same for Okam. Edds in the 6th round is a steal in my opinion. I think he'd push Diles at the WILL. |
Of our first 3 picks, use 2 for the OLine and the third for a corner ? I love it !
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Tim Tebow to the Raiders? That's like casting Snow White for a porn movie. That's gonna blow a few minds.
Somebody's boy Scott from LSU lasts until deep in the 5th round, btw. |
I like the Shipley Pick. It would be hard for me to pass him in the 3rd......depending on who is available. I do agree that we need to improve the OL and DL interior, and a RB would be lovely. And a CB and a S......
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my cherry picks, although I wouldn't have been too upset with their picks... 20 Dan Williams DT Tenn 51 Patrick Robinson CB Florida St 82 Dexter McCluster RB Miss 116 Mike Neal DT Purdue 147 Charles Scott RB LSU 158 A.J. Wallace CB Penn St 178 Leigh Tiffin K Alabama 212 Thomas Austin C Clemson or Mike Pouncey OG Florida I have Wallace as our potential FS |
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My turn
20 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho 51 Morgan Burnett* S 6'1" 210 Georgia Tech 82 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 116 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke 147 Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU 158 Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest 178 Leigh Tiffin K 6'1" 198 Alabama 212 Keith Toston RB 6'1" 210 Oklahoma State |
I love the Horns and Shipley, but don't we already have a Shipley like player in Anderson?
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I like....
20 Jared Odrick DT Penn State 51 Reshad Jones FS Georgia 82 Daryl Washington ILB TCU 116 Kyle Wilson CB Boise St 147 Charles Scott RB LSU 156 Linval Joseph DT ECU 178 Leigh Tiffin K Alabama 212 Deji Karim RB Southern Ill. I felt we could really improve our DT's with this draft since our production there ranks close to last in the league, as with our running game. I also felt adding R. Jones and K. Wilson to our secondary will really upgrade our secondary. I feel they can start from day one. Washington will have a chance to start, or provide some much needed depth incase one of our LB's gets injured. |
as of 1/29/10 they have a new 7 rounder
20 Houston Jared Odrick DT 6'5" 306 Penn State 51 Houston Reshad Jones* S 6'2" 212 Georgia 82 Houston Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama 116 Houston Dezmon Briscoe* WR 6'3" 200 Kansas 147 Houston Shawn Lauvao OG 6'3" 310 Arizona State 156 Houston (from San Diego) Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU 178 Houston Tyler Sheehan QB 6'4" 227 Bowling Green 212 Houston Jim Cordle OC 6'4" 286 Ohio State MY cherry pick 20 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho 51 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State 82 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 116 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn 147 Justin Woodall S 6'2" 220 Alabama 156 Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan 178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo 212 Kerry Meier WR 6'3" 216 Kansas |
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#48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri 51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida 54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State 82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama 94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon 156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa 178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo 212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska |
Why such a fixation on Weatherspoon? Every year there seems to be a message board darling. This year it seems to be Weatherspoon. There are higher and better needs, I believe, going into this years draft. A RB, a CB, a DT, and a OG should lead the parade, but not that much on LB. You wanta enlighten me, PK?
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Tricksy with the trade-down. I'll do this early with an alternate I wouldn't complain about. 1 Brandon Graham olb/de - Mike Iupati og 2 Kile Wilson cb - Markice Pouncey c 3 John Asamoan og - Anthony Dixon rb 4 Ben Tate rb - Kurt Coleman s 5 A.J.Edds olb - LeGarrette Blount rb 6. Cam Thomas DT - Robert Johnson s 7. Chris Cook cb - Larry Asante s A lot of people thought Conner Barwin would be playing olb on a 3-4 defense. If Graham could beat him out for the de spot, I think he could make a great wlb. If not, Graham plays wlb. If you take Graham, take Blount in the fifth. If you take Iupati, take Edds in the fifth. I know A.J. Edds is barely there at the Texans 6th pick, but I take him in the fifth to be sure. |
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As for DT, I like Dan Williams, but he was gone. The mock draft I used by draftsite.com, was almost a worse case situation for the Texans. The guys I really want are gone before 20. After the Senior Bowl I am not picking Iupati at 20, and the 1st round trade downs do not net me much, so a went for the larger drop. That is where Weatherspoon was a BPA after the drop. I would rather have chosen between Perrish Cox, Donovan Warren, Terrence Cody, Morgan Burnett to name a few. But they where gone in this mock after the trade down. BTW I like Weatherspoon leadership, high motor, side line to side line range, can play all three LB positions, and he is a stud in coverage. I have been looking for a group on this team that can be a strength, and Weatherspoon helps the Texans become elite at LB. BTW the more we mock Weatherspoon, the less of a chance that he is our pick. |
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Check out some of the videos, especially Starks
post senior bowl mock #48 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri 51 Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida 54 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State 82 Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama 94 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 147 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon 156 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa 178 James Starks RB 6'2" 210 Buffalo 212 Larry Asante S 6'1" 210 Nebraska |
Ok, I can understand that Weatherspoon is one of the best players in the draft. My reason for asking was that, if we went for him in the first, would there really be a good sound player at the other positions of need in the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th rounds? I didn't, don't, think so, thus my question. I would like this draft to be the feat de acompli to put us up there with the elite teams in the league, and one that would set the tone for a run up to the Super Bowl.
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NBT did you not notice that I traded down and took Weatherspoon in the 2nd round? I did not take a 1st rounder, instead I opted for Weatherspoon and Wilson in the 2nd round to replace a 1st rounder. (Allen was drafted using the Texans 2nd round pick). |
Nope, sorry, I did not notice that. Excusa meo! :p
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http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp
OK, I've gone off my draftboard and tried to stay true to it as I went through the 7 rounder that drafttek has up now. This is my attempt without any trades.
1. RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St. 2. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St 3. DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 California 4. DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina 5. CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma 6. FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia 7. OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 Notre Dame 8. OG Thomas Austin 6'3" 315 Clemson I hate drafting a RB in the 1st round, but Spoon was off the board. :D Kyle Wilson is my "replacement" for Dunta Robinson, because I am not paying him $10M for his effort and production. Alualu makes Zgonina expendable so he can retire already as well as give Okoye some competition. Cam Thomas is way undervalued in this mock draft, and I was happy to get him to replace Okam. Brian Jackson and Chris Cook are fighting it out for FS and the Dimeback. Two big OL to round out the draft. |
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
Apparently, I must have Cam Thomas way higher than the "consensus" mock draft. This is what I got...even after drafting Sean Weatherspoon.
1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri 2. CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St 3. OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois 4. DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina 5. RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU 6. CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt 7. S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 Nebraska 8. DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky |
I'm not against Weatherspoon in the first, I suppose you are planning on using him at the Will. I just don't see that Diles is doing that bad to use a first to replace him. Right now I would rather see either DT Dan Williams or RB Mathews with our first.
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I have come to the conclusion that this draft isn't one of my favorites in terms of matching needs with players. I can't say that I have any great Offensive Linemen that I feel comfortable can come in and play at a high level to establish our running game. Trying to find a "mauler" that can also pass protect and be agile enough to fit into a ZBS is harder than it looks. The guys who are potential LT prospects are the OL that I'm considering. However, Shawn Andrews of the Eagles is the last guy I can think of who was a LT in college that was drafted to play RG. I'd like Bryan Bulaga but I'm not sure he's available when we pick nor am I sure that I want to spend a 1st round pick to go that direction. His college teammate, Kyle Calloway is intriguing in terms of his talent and when he's likely to be drafted. I'm interested in how he tests at the Combine because, I think he might not be "athletic" enough for this coaching staff. Probably the best fit of talent and when he'll be selected is Jon Asamoah from Illinois, again I am not sure if I want to spend a 2nd rounder, but I suppose I'll have to bite the bullet. That's IF he's still around at pick #50, since I've seen him off the board at #37. :(
The Secondary is no different really. We can forget about being able to take Eric Berry in the first round, the word is out that he's pretty good. Joe Haden is also most likely gone before we make a pick. There is going to be some sentiment to select Longhorn Earl Thomas to be our ballhawk. The question is can we afford to take a player who isn't very good at tackling and is small for the position that could lead to injury? If all we want is a player to sit back in Zone and make Interceptions, might we take a CB like Syd'Quan Thompson in the 2nd round and tell him to help out when he can against the run without getting himself killed? Ah, there's that 2nd round pick again that I was going to spend on Asamoah. Wait a minute, the CB's in this draft are not very good in all phases of the game either. I have my eye on Kyle Wilson, but he's probably a 2nd round pick too just like Donovan Warren. If I were able to luck out and have Brandon Ghee available at pick #83 in the 3rd round, I'd be pretty happy. We'd like a RB too in this draft, and the best chance to get one that will be a difference maker is in the 3rd round. That's assuming Toby Gerhart or Ben Tate are still on the board. Perhaps we get another Tennessee RB Montario Hardesty. I know he absolutely killed the University of Kentucky when I watched that game. I personally would like a LB to take the place of Diles. We have Freeman on the roster and it will be interesting to see if Adibi continues to draw a check. I have a long history of projecting LBs higher than when they are actually drafted. A perfect example is Brandon Siler of the Florida Gators, now Chargers. I'm hopeful that short Bulldog LB Rennie Curran falls into this category. It would great if he "fell" to the 5th round. The 6th and 7th round is going to go towards players who may "grow" into their position. I wouldn't mind drafting a big, slow CB who could project into the FS position. Brian Jackson of Oklahoma or Chris Cook are who I'm thinking of specifically. Then there is the idea of Caldwell being a guard, in which case we could draft a OC late like Eric Olsen - Notre Dame, John Estes - Hawaii, or Jeff Byers - USC. So, in my perfect scenario we trade out of the first round with KC Chiefs and get picks: #36, #68, #138, #163. Then the draft would look like this... #36 - OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois #50 - CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan #68 - FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest #83 - RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford #115 - LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.56 Georgia #138 - DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue #146 - OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St #163 - QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham #177 - DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky #187 - OC Jeff Byers 6'3" 299 5.22 USC #210 - Given to KC in trade |
Using your trade scenario I would go best OC and CB first. I'm tired of seeing our centers getting blown up by big 3-4 NT's. Pouncey offers a good combination of size, athleticism and experience along with a nasty demeanor. Kyle Wilson, I thought played well in the senior bowl and gets the nod here.
I also get Walter McFadden to help out the secondary as a FS. He really had a knack for the ball this season and if that fails, we know he's already a lockdown defender. Linval Joseph, who's a junior, can be brought along slowly and will eventually start. Scott helps bolster our often injured O line and M. Johnson gives us some quality depth for the often knicked up LB's. Bell backs up Foster and Tate and Lawrence challenges to start at WILL. #36 - Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida #50 - Kyle Wilson CB Boise St #68 - Lamarr Houston DT Texas #83 - Walter McFadden FS/CB Auburn #115 - Ben Tate RB Auburn #138 - Linval Joseph DT ECU #146 - Chris Scott OT Tennessee #163 - Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky #177 - Joique Bell RB Wayne St #187 - Simoni Lawrence OLB Minn #210 - Given to KC in trade |
Don't we have an extra sixth from Oakland? How about trying to package it in with our pick in some earlier round to try to move up, say in the first for DT Dan Williams?
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Draftsite.com 7 round mock
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
20 Jonathan Dwyer* RB 6'1" 235 Georgia Tech 51 Chad Jones* S 6'3" 218 LSU 82 Jerome Murphy CB 6'1" 192 South Florida 119 Jacoby Ford WR 5'9" 175 Clemson 152 Terrell Skinner S 6'3" 214 Maryland 190 Max Hall QB 6'1" 200 BYU 200 Jeff Byers OG 6'3" 290 USC 231 Corey Peters DT 6'3" 292 Kentucky ok in my Cherry pick i have to drop 9 spot to take my guy so I would be trading down with someone Maybe San Diego who are looking RB? we give 20 for 28 and 60 28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee 51 Kareem Jackson* CB 5'11" 192 Alabama 60 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois 82 Perrish Cox CB 6'1" 195 Oklahoma State 119 Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU 152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana (OG) prospect had great Shrine week. 190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina 200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham 231 Javarris James RB 6'0" 211 Miami |
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Roy did you happen to notice this guy during the Shrine game? Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana. The press on him was he stonewalled everybody, could be a OG prospect.
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New attempt, because I'm board and I do not think we go starting rookie OG.
ok in my Cherry pick i have to drop 9 spot to take my guy so I would be trading down with someone Maybe San Diego who are looking RB? we give 20 for 28 and 60 28 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State 51 Myron Rolle S 6'2" 215 Florida State 60 Dexter McCluster RB 5'8" 165 Mississippi 82 Amari Spievey* CB 6'0" 190 Iowa 119 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon 152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana (OG) prospect had great Shrine week. 190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina 200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham 231 Kerry Meier WR 6'3" 216 Kansas |
Using PK's trade I have:
28 Dan Williams, DT, Tenn 51 Jahvid Best, RB, Cal 60 Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal 82 Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State 119 Walter Thurmond III, CB, Oregon 152 Terrell Skinner, FS, Maryland 190 Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA 200 Harry Coleman, S, LSU |
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28 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee 51 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 4.47 Rutgers 60 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois 82 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford 119 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana 152 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.54 Virginia 190 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA 200 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham |
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28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee 51 Myron Rolle S 6'2" 215 Florida State 60 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois *70 Dexter McCluster RB 5'8" 165 Mississippi 82 Amari Spievey* CB 6'0" 190 Iowa 119 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon 152 Rodger Saffold OT/OG 6'5" 305 Indiana 190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina 200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham 231 Kerry Meier WR 6'3" 216 Kansas *#70 - I gave my 2011 2nd rounder to Oakland for there #6 pick in the 3rd round. Dan Williams plays both DT positions Rolle starts next to Pollard, backed up by Barber and Nolan Asamoah starts at RG from day one, Saffold has to work his way into starting lineup. McCluster is 3 roster spots, KR, WR so Anderson/Jones/Davis are all on notice, and RB. Only his blocking is in question. Blount is the backup change of pace back until he learns the blocking scheme. Spievey is what we thought Molden would be, should push for playing time and start in year 2. Thomas should be the NT that I wanted Okam to be. Skelton is a project QB. #3 behind winner of Booty/Orlovsky for #2. Meier is a former QB turned WR, has size and speed, project. Plus I'm friends with his uncle. 2011 and beyond OL - Brown, Saffold, Caldwell, Asamoah, Winston |
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I might look at Kyle Wilson #30 in this draft or Donovan Warren # 50 at the #28. If they run in the mid 4.4 and show good hip flip. I have them as #2 and 3 of the CBs precombine. My thing is I have Dan Williams as one of the best players coming out this year. |
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Dunta not coming back changes my draft completely, putting an emphasis on CB early, as well as RB, and FS.
28 Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan 51 Reshad Jones, FS, Georgia 60 Anthony Dixon, RB, Miss St *70 Daryl Washington, ILB, TCU 82 Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech 119 Eric Olsen, OC, Notre Dame 152 Rodger Saffold, OT/OG, Indiana 190 Leigh Tiffin, K, Alabama 200 Jay Ross, DT, East Carolina 231 Brian Jackson, CB, Oklahoma FA Signings Brandon Minor, RB, Michigan Joe Thomas, OG, Pitt Antonio Coleman, DE, Auburn |
After rewatching the Senior Bowl, i have changed my mind. What if we had a Dwight Freeney type DE to pair with Mario?
#20 Brandon Graham DE 6'2" 270 Michigan #50 Devin McCourty CB 5'11" 190 Rutgers blocked 7 kicks in his career #82 Lamarr Houston DT 6'2" 300 Texas 119 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn 152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana 190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina 200 Andre Anderson RB 6'0" 212 Tulane 231 Klint Kubiak S 6'0" 212 Colorado State My future DL is Mario, Thomas, Houston, Graham McCourty is solid with the play in front of him, but gives up the long ball to often. High Risk/Reward guy Houston, almost unblockable high motor guy Tate all around RB Saffold LG prospect Thomas one of Roy's guys Anderson carried his college team Kubiak, momma told husband to draft him. :p |
OK what are we looking at here as our most pressing needs ? CB,C/G,RB and perhaps DT & safety but to a lesser degree. Given the crop of FAs becoming available in March, would the Texans be realistic to expect they could fill one of those needs for the upcoming campaign in FA and thereby give themselves more flexibility in the Draft ?
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Signing one of these guys would allow you to draft a development type guy later in the draft, guys like Adam Ulatoski of Texas. At Safety you might pursue a Darren Sharper, other wise the FA DBs are very thin. As are the FA RBs. Currently this is one of the worse years ever for FAs. |
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DT Fred Robbins FS Jared Page (KC rejects might find a home with Lil' Coach Gibbs) RB Larry Johnson (See what Ced Benson did after we passed on him) |
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