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Keith 02-27-2009 09:28 AM

QBs Patrick Ramsey, Dan Orlovsky to Visit
 
splash.

Second time's a charm, I guess.

linky forthcoming.

ETA - Source is The National Football Post.
Quote:

Sources close to each situation have just informed me of the following three upcoming transactions:
1. The Houston Texans will sign quarterback Patrick Ramsey to back-up Matt Schaub.
2.The Seattle Seahawks are targeting wide receiver Michael Clayton. He is their top choice as of the current moment.
3.Jonathan Stinchcomb is very likely to sign with the Seattle Seahawks.
More on each story as they develop. Stay tuned.

WMH 02-27-2009 09:45 AM

Bummer...:(

I would have preferred O'Sullivan or Fitzpatrick.

cadams 02-27-2009 09:55 AM

I am fine with Ramsey

bckey 02-27-2009 10:21 AM

I'm fine with Ramsey as long as he doesn't play.

nero THE zero 02-27-2009 10:28 AM

Bleh.

Would have preferred any of the other oft mentioned back-ups, but a back-up's a back-up.

HPF Bob 02-27-2009 10:33 AM

More Denver connection. He's been Cutler's backup.

Keith 02-27-2009 10:56 AM

The John-a-chron is confirming the visit.

Quote:

The first unrestricted free agent to visit the Texans' offices is quarterback Patrick Ramsey. ...

In 2007, the Texans tried and failed to sign Ramsey, who chose Denver instead. He spent the last two years with the Broncos. He attempted only three passes last season and completed two. ...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6284444.html

Arky 02-27-2009 11:26 AM

"He attempted only three passes last season and completed two."

That'll work!

papabear 02-27-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 8803)
"He attempted only three passes last season and completed two."

That'll work!

I prefer to read that as, "Ramsey showed how deadly accurate he can be with his 66% completion percentage last year" . at least while in this pre-draft season of unbridled optimism.

RunninRaven 02-27-2009 12:05 PM

Hopefully they don't pay him what they payed Sage who, if I recall correctly, had a pretty high base salary for someone that had been a backup QB. But ability-wise I'm fine with Ramsey as backup. I think he'll do reasonably as well as Sage did.

Nconroe 02-27-2009 01:14 PM

Sage was 6-4 , which is 3 of 5 games won, that isn't bad for a backup.

nero THE zero 02-27-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 8812)
Sage was 6-4 , which is 3 of 5 games won, that isn't bad for a backup.

10/21/07: L vs. TEN (10-6)
10/28/07: L @ SD (11-5)
11/04/07: W @ OAK (4-12)
12/02/07: L @ TEN (10-6)
12/09/07: W vs. TB (9-7)
12/13/07: W vs. DEN (7-9)
12/23/07: L @ IND (13-3)
12/30/07: W vs. JAC (11-5)

10/05/08: L vs. IND (12-4)
11/02/08: L @ MIN (10-6)
11/09/08: L vs. BAL (11-5)
11/16/08: L @ IND (12-4)
11/23/08: W @ CLE (4-12)
12/01/08: W @ JAC (5-11)

A lot of people place a high value on Sage because of Matt's inability to stay on the field and the perception that Sage plays well when Matt goes down. But, that doesn't really seem to be the case. In games that Sage has played a significant role, the team went 6-8. They went 4-0 against teams with losing records and 2-8 against teams with winning records. That's also 2-8 against playoff teams.

I'm not a huge proponent of placing a W-L value on QBs, but I think this puts some serious perspective on Sage's actual value to the team versus his perceived value.

NBT 02-27-2009 07:12 PM

Right now I'm not a fan of Ramsey. We may miss Sage more than we think if Schaub gets hurt yet again.

Arky 02-27-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papabear (Post 8807)
I prefer to read that as, "Ramsey showed how deadly accurate he can be with his 66% completion percentage last year" . at least while in this pre-draft season of unbridled optimism.

LOL. Ya, "a man so feared on the football field, he rarely saw action in 2008"....

dalemurphy 02-27-2009 08:10 PM

Ramsey has never gotten his due: in 2002, he was the 3rd QB taken in the first round but I would argue he's the best of them!

Here's an interesting question that may not have a right answer:

Of those three QBs, who went to the best coaching staff? and the best organization?

Nconroe 02-27-2009 10:13 PM

Tricky question about 2002, you had David Carr picked first by Texans, Joey Harrington picked third by Detroit and Patrick Ramsey picked 32 by Washington. I guess Ramsey was on the best of those three teams. none of those three QBs have become great so far, but all still around. I really havent seen Ramsey play that much so hard to comment on his skills right now.

Keith 02-28-2009 12:18 AM

These are preseason stats, Ramsey playing with his fellow Bronco backups, but... eh, fwiw.

2008 - 24-40 60%, 169 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, 46.8 QB Rating
2007 - 23-42 55%, 313 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 92.7 QB Rating

Not sure what happened last year.

If you recall, the Broncos came to Reliant Stadium in preseason week 1 (nice game from David Anderson in this one, btw). Nick Ferguson intercepted Ramsey's first pass attempt of the game. Ramsey went 6-11 32 yards and 2 INT (Jamar Fletcher made the other pick), probably why a lot of us (including me) are a bit lukewarm on this probable signing.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/boxsco...&override=true

WMH 02-28-2009 12:32 PM

If this guy was signed, then why are they bringing in Orvlosky?

From Chron:
Dan Orlovsky is the second free agent quarterback who will visit the Texans.

Orlovsky, who started for Detroit in the Lions' 28-21 loss on Oct. 19 at Reliant Stadium, follows Denver's Patrick Ramsey, who was in town Friday and today. Orlovsky will visit today and Sunday.

In his start against the Texans, Orlovsky completed 12 of 25 passes for 265 yards and one touchdown. For the season, he threw for 1,616 yards with eight touchdowns and eight interceptions while splitting time at quarterback with Daunte Culpepper.

Arizona defensive end Antonio Smith is spending the day with the Texans. Smith is a candidate to replace left defensive end Anthony Weaver, who was waived earlier this week.

gunslinger57 02-28-2009 05:52 PM

Make sure someone points out to Orlovsky where the end lines are in Reliant.

superbowlbound 02-28-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunslinger57 (Post 8915)
Make sure someone points out to Orlovsky where the end lines are in Reliant.

beat me to it.:D

Nconroe 02-28-2009 09:26 PM

There are still a few other QB's we could bring in such as Hourd who Kansas let go this week. He was pretty good.


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