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Official Texans @ Rams Game Thread, 11/12/2017
The 3-5 Houston Texans travel to LA this Sunday to play the 6-2 LA Rams in a late game. The Texans are coming off a 20-14 home loss to the Indianapolis Colts while the Rams are coming off a 51-17 road drubbing of the NY Giants. The Rams have won 3 in a row. Due to a cluster of injuries, the Texans seem to be in full-on train wreck mode while the Rams, led by 2nd year QB Jared Goff, appear to becoming one of the up and comers in the league. The Ram are now the NFL's highest scoring offense with 32.9 ppg.
----------------------------------------------------------------- TV = CBS (channel 11 local), 3:05 CST Sunday, November 12, 2017 Announcers = Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts The line = Rams by 11 to 12½ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area: FOX (early) = New Orleans @ Buffalo, Kenny Albert, Ronde Barber FOX (late) = Dallas @ Atlanta, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman ----------------------------------------------------------------- Prime time: TNF = Seattle @ Arizona (NBC/NFLN) SNF = New England @ Denver (NBC) MNF = Miami @ Carolina (ESPN) |
Probably won't matter but Fido activated and Griffin to IR. Keep at two active TE. Concussions for TEs.
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Texans win the toss and will receive.
The opening kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25. ----------------------------------------------------- Foreman for 3. Pass to Hop good for 6. 3rd and 1 coming up. Foreman pops for about 3 and the 1st down. L Miller runs for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up. Savage stripped and fumbles. Rams recover at the Texan 12 yard line. Ram's ball. 12:33 left in the 1st qtr. Play is under review. Play stands. Ram's ball. |
Do we have any good Olinemen? Maybe at center?
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Really...
He just can't get it done... |
Pass into the endzone off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Gurley for no gain. 3rd and 10 coming up. Pass to Woods gets 3. Rams going for the FG. Zuerlein 27-yarder is good. Rams 3, Texans 0 11:10 left in the 1st qtr. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
------------------------------------------------ L Miller for almost 8. L Miller for 23, nice run. L Miller for almost 4. Pass to Hop over the middle goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up. Flags presnap. False start Giacomini, -5. Makes it 3rd and 11 coming up. Goodness, deep pass to Ellington goes inc. He shoulda had it. Texans to punt. Punt goes into the end zone, touchback. Ram's ball at their 20. 9:12 left in the 1st qtr. |
Goff's pass is tipped, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Gurley meet Clowney - Clowney, Gurley. Loss of 1. Goff pressured, throws inc. Rams have to punt. Ellington brings the punt back to the Texan 43. Texan's ball. 8:07 left in the 1st qtr. |
Foreman caught for no gain/loss of 1.
Pass to Fido gets 7. 3rd and 3 coming up. Sideline route to Hop gets the 1st down at the Ram 42. Checkdown to Fido gets 3. B Miller keeps for 1. Brings up 3rd and 6. Savage pressured, nearly throws the INT on the checkdown. Texans to punt. Punt is downed at the Ram 4. Ram's ball. 4:53 left in the 1st qtr. |
Gurley goes left side for 11.
Clowney with the sack! Nice! Loss of 11. Checkdown to Gurley gets 6. 3rd and 15 coming up. Pass to Kupp doesn't get much. Rams have to punt. Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 37. Texan's ball. 2:24 left in the 1st qtr. |
L Miller for 4.
Anderson catches the tipped pass and gains 13, 1st down. Pass is too tall for Ellington and goes inc but flags are down. Unnecessary roughness on the Rams. Places the ball at the Ram 31. L Miller for 3. Sideline pass to Fuller gets 9 and the 1st down. Ball at the Ram 20. End of the 1st qtr. ------------------------------------------------------------ Savage's pass is blocked, inc. Oy, L Miller for no gain. Holding on the Texans backs it up 10. Makes it 2nd and 20. Screen to Hop goes nowhere. 3rd and 20 coming up. Short pass to L Miller goes for 14. Texans to go for the FG. Texans use a timeout because the play clock was running out. Fairbairn's 34-yarder is no good. Score remains: Rams 3, Texans 0 13:21 left in the half. |
Rams ball at their 24.
Flags presnap. Neutral zone infraction on the Texans. 1st and 5 coming up. Screen to Gurley goes for 43 yards. Ball at the Texan 28. Gurley goes left side for 15. Clowney shoots through to catch Gurley for a loss of 7. On 2nd and 17, Goff can't find a receiver and scrambles for 6. 3rd and 11 coming up. Pass to Gurley off his hands inc. Rams going for the FG. Zeurlein's 33-yarder is good. Rams 6, Texans 0 10:17 left in the half. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
-------------------------------------------------- Savage can't find a receiver and scrambles for 1. Foreman for almost 2. 3rd and 7 coming up. Pass to Anderson good for 17 and the 1st down. Foreman for 6. Ball at midfield. Pass to Hop goes for 18. Sideline pass to Fuller good for 6. 2nd and 4 coming up. Pass to Fuller over the middle is broken up. Fuller takes a big shot. Injury timeout. ------------------------------------------------- On 3rd and 4, pass to Ellington over the middle goes for 26 and the TD! Texans 7, Rams 6 6:31 left in the half. |
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Ram 17. Ram's ball.
---------------------------------------------------- Austin goes for 7. Big hit by KJo on the tackle. Gurley for 2. 3rd and 1 coming up. Checkdown to Gurley gets 2 and the 1st down. Flags presnap. False start Rams, -5. 1st and 15 coming up. Goff throws but no one home, inc. 2nd and 15 coming up. Pass to Higby broken up by KJo, inc. Pass to Gurley gets 8 but Rams will have to punt. Fake! Punter throws to a receiver who comes up short of the 1st down. Texans takeover at the Ram 38! |
L Miller pops loose for 21.
L Miller for 2. Ball at the Ram 15. Savage sacked. Loss of 3. Brings up 3rd and 11. 2 minute warning. Ball at the Ram 18. -------------------------------------------------------------- On 3rd and 11, pass to Ellington off the mark, inc, but flag on the Rams for PI. Places the ball at the Ram 13, 1st down. Savage's pass is batted down, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. L Miller goes for about 7 but a flag is down......holding on X brings it back. Ball at the Ram 20. 2nd and 17 coming up. Savage throws the pick. Ram's ball at their 24. 1:35 left in the half. |
Clowney gets Gurley for a loss of 1. Texans use a timeout (#2). 1:27 left in the half.
Pass to Kupp gets 9. 3rd and 2 coming up. Goff hits Woods for 7, 1st down. Goff's pass is complete but out of bounds so inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. Goff pressured, hits Cooper for 6. 3rd and 4 coming up. Pass to Higby goes to the Texan 39, 1st down. Rams use a timeout. 37 seconds left in the half. Goff's pass deflected by McKinney, inc. Goff pressured, throws it away, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up. Pass to Higbee gets 7. Rams going for the FG with 19 seconds left. Zeurlein's 50-yarder is good. Rams 9, Texans 7 14 seconds left in the half. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
-------------------------------------------------- Texans kneel it. Halftime. Score: Rams 9, Texans 7 |
The 2nd half kickoff is brought back to the Ram 25. Ram's ball.
---------------------------------------------------- False start Rams, -5. Makes it 1st and 15. Pass to Kupp goes for 19. Goff pressured, throws it away.....flags down.....intentional grounding on Goff. Makes it 2nd and 20. Checkdown to Gurley goes for almost 3. 3rd and 17 coming up. Flags presnap. Clowney jumped... Makes it 3rd and 12. Goff's pass off the mark, inc. Rams will have to punt. Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 20. Texan's ball. 13:13 left in the 3rd qtr. |
C'mon Savage. We're still in this game....
----------------------------------------------- L Miller loses 4. Nice catch by Hop. Gain of 32. L Miller for no gain. Pick 6 courtesy of Tom Savage but holding on the Rams nullifies it. Whew! 1st and 10 Texans at the Ram 47. Pass to Hop goes for nice gain but PI on Hop. Makes it 1st and 20. Savage's pass it tipped and falls inc. 2nd and 20 coming up. Pass to Ellington gets 6. 3rd and 14 coming up. Savage's deep pass can't find a home. Texans will have to punt. Punt goes out of bounds at the Ram 15 but flag on the Texans for holding. 10 yard penalty, rekick. Punt is "returned" to the Ram 4 yard line. Ram's ball. 10:09 left in the 3rd qtr. |
Gurley goes left for 2.
Goff hits Woods on a deep pass for the TD. Wide open for 94 yards. Rams 16, Texans 7 9:23 left in the 3rd qtr. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
----------------------------------------------------- Savage pressured, throws it away, inc. Foreman for almost 5. 3rd and 5 coming up. Pass to Fido goes inc. Texans have to punt. Punt is brought back to the 19 but block in the back on the Rams places the ball at the Ram 9 yard line. Ram's ball. 8:14 left in the 3rd qtr. |
Gurley goes right side for about 11.
Pass to Woods gets 8. Pass to Kupp gets 7 and the 1st down at the Ram 35. Goff sacked by Scarlett! Makes it 2nd and 16 coming up. Pass to Woods gets 13. 3rd and 3 coming up. Pass to Kupp goes for 7 at the Ram 49, 1st down. Pass to Dunbar, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. Handoff to Austin gets 4. 3rd and 6 coming up. Goff pressured, gets pulled down by Scarlett. Loss on the play and the Rams will have to punt. Punt goes into the end zone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20. 3:53 left in the 3rd qtr. |
Foreman for no gain.
Savage hit as he throws, ball goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up. Pass to Hop is caught but out of bounds, inc. Texans to punt. Punt is brought back to the Texan 36. Weeks injured on the play. Ram's ball in good field position. 2:51 left in the 3rd qtr. |
Austin dodges and darts for a loss of 5.
Pass to Watkins goes for 24. Ball at the Texan 12. Pass to Watkins goes for the TD. Rams 23, Texans 7 1:33 left in the 3rd qtr. Defense tired because the offense can't move the ball...... |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
--------------------------------------------------- Savage sacked and fumbles. Rams recover. Ram's ball at the Texan 12. 1:24 left in the 3rd qtr. -------------------------------------------------- Checkdown to Woods goes for the TD. Rams 30, Texans 7 1:14 left in the 3rd qtr. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
-------------------------------------------------- Blue for 1. Pass to Ellington gets 4. Flag down......facemask on the Rams places the ball at the Texan 45, 1st down. Blue for 7. End of the 3rd qtr. --------------------------------------------------- Blue caught for a loss of 3. 3rd and 6 coming up. Savage pressured, throws inc. Holding on the Texans is declined. Texans have to punt. Punt is fair caught at the Ram 11. Ram's ball. 14:07 left in the game. |
Tom Savage turnovers = 3
Ram's turnovers = 0 ----------------------------------------------------- Handoff to Austin goes for no gain. Neutral zone infraction on L Houston give the Rams 5 yards. 2nd and 5 coming up. Gurley for 2. 3rd and 3 coming up. A Ram (Saffold) injured on the play. Checkdown to Gurley gets about 5 and the 1st down. Gurley goes left for 1....flag down.... holding on the Rams makes it 1st and 20. Gurley gets loose for 34. Rams have to use a timeout - play clock running out. Pass to Woods goes for 30. Austin caught in the backfield by Watkins. Loss of 4. Checkdown to Woods gets 4. 3rd and 11 coming up. Pass to Kupp gets a few.... Rams to go for the FG. Zeurlein's 33-yarder is good. Rams 33, Texans 7 7:33 left in the game. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
------------------------------------------------------- Blue turns a busted play into 5 yards. Hop gets PI'ed. Ball at the Texan 37, 1st down. Pass to Hop is dropped, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. Savage's deep pass to Hop is good for 36. Pass to Hop gets 11. Ball at the Ram 16. Pass to Hop in the end zone is caught out of bounds, inc. On 2nd and 10, pass to Ellington goes to the 11 yard line. 3rd and 5 coming up. Pass to Anderson in the end zone goes inc. Pass a little high. Texans going for it on 4th and 5. Savage with the red zone pick. Ram's ball at the Texan 26. 4:34 left in the game. |
Dunbar for 1.
Dunbar gets 12 and the 1st down. Dunbar loses 1. Dunbar for 8. 3rd and 3 coming up. Dunbar gets 11. 2 minute warning. ----------------------------------------------------------- Rams kneeling it out. Final Score: Rams 33, Texans 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Looked OK for a half. |
We need to get Hopkins to IR. Savage has a real talent for throwing WRs directly into trouble.
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Early line has the Cardinals as 1 to 2½ pt favorites over the Texans this Sunday.
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Defense played a really inspired first half, Clowney particularly so. Amazing how he now seems to be the model of health given how the early years of his career began. Not sure how many more years he will have left in him.
Kevin Johnson also seems to be back to form after his various ailments. Still, can't help but catch the Jags again this Sunday and wonder what might have been had the team retained A.J. Bouye. It was easy to comment at halftime that had Care Bear converted his short FG attempt, and had Savage not thrown the pick late, that the Texans could have had a two-score lead midway through the game. But then the third quarter happened, and the Savage Texans are who we thought they were. I said aloud just before the first pick that I didn't mind all those batted passes from Savage because chances were they would be picked anyway, being the curmudgeon that I've become. Then lo and behold, those did become picks later. And Savage may have a tendency to get not only himself set up for disaster, but now he seems to put his receivers in harm's way, too. Will Fuller was destroyed by a clean hit & didn't return. For as often as Savage locks onto Hopkins, we should be worried that he's next. |
I've been cutting Savage some slack because he is getting plenty of starter's minutes for the first time in his career. We as fans are too quick to judge sometimes. Many QB's have to kind of find their way when opportunity knocks.
That said, the bad signs out-numbered the good signs yesterday. There was one play where a Ram defender was making a beeline toward Savage as he stood in the pocket. Savage saw the guy coming and there should have been all sorts of red flags going off - dodge, get rid of the ball, protect the ball, something... but Savage just stood there as though he wasn't processing what was happening, took the sack and fumbled the ball. Just very bad Blake Bortles-esque looking. There's nothing heroic about being able to "take a punch". Savage was like this at Pitt if you've ever seen those highlights. "Good" at taking a hit. There are usually other less masochistic options. There were a few good throws yesterday.....just not enough. Still, despite the 2 INT's and the 2 lost fumbles, you could make a case that he was a bit better than he was against the Colts. One can only hope he can accelerate his learning curve before he ends up on IR... |
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I'd say he's near the bottom of the 9 QBs we've played the last 4 years. I'd take Yates or Weeden over him. |
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I'm convinced the term "reserving judgement" is not your vocabulary, barrett....;) |
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Even if Tom Savage became the most he can possibly be and maximized every bit of potential and found the perfect situation he'd still be a replacement level player. |
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I looked it up. Mr. Keenum has a 14-17 career record as a starter which is quite impressive since he began 0-8. The Rams, after all, were no great shakes while he was there and the Vikings are a .500 team.
He also went undrafted while Mr. Savage was a fourth-round selection. While he was a Texan, Keenum's issues were inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. Savage's issues now are inexperience and playing behind a shitty offensive line. That doesn't mean Savage will ever be as good as Keenum or even have the chance to be as good. Just noting some similarities. |
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As for Savage, we might not know if he can grow/develop/get better with Bill "Captain Hook" O'Brien calling the shots.... |
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