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Official Texans vs. Jaguars Game Thread, 9/10/2017
The Houston Texans will open the 2017 season at home vs. the Jacksonville Jaguars. There is a monster heading towards Florida so the Jags will be fortunate to be away from that area on Sunday. It does not look good for the state of Florida.
Houston is dealing with the aftermath of their own little monster but the show will go on. The Tom Savage era is about to begin. Let's see how long it lasts.... ;) ------------------------------------------------------ TV = CBS (channel 11 local), noon CST, Sunday, 9/10/17 Announcers = Andrew Catalon, James Lofton The line = Texans by 5.5 to 6 ------------------------------------------------------- Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area: FOX (late) - Seattle @ Green Bay, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman -------------------------------------------------------- Prime time: TNF = Kansas City @ New England (NBC) SNF = NY Giants @ Dallas (NBC) MNF = New Orleans @ Minnesota (7:00 ET); LA Chargers @ Denver (10:20 ET) (ESPN) |
How long does O'Brien go with Savage before we see Watson? (Could Watson become a "change-tempo" QB who plays one drive each half?) Will the WRs be healthy enough to open up the passing game?
What will we see from Watt and Clowney on the field together? Will Crenel line them up on the same side or opposite sides? Will either appear in goal line sets? Will we be close enough to the goal line to run a goal line set? Will Crenel figure a way to keep us from chasing backs on swing patterns all day? Will Carebear shank a FG or extra point now that he's won the kicking job? If the Texans look sharp after only three exhibition games, will it lead a movement to reduce the number of pre-season games? Will the Texans reach 8 wins and is there anyone else in the division who can post eight wins? The answers start Sunday. |
Texans in all white today...
Can the 2017 Texans score points? Kickoff in about 7 minutes. |
I'm very interested in the OL and the defensive secondary. Also interested to see what sort of bullshit BOB does in the red zone.
Hoping Savage does not turn the freaking ball over. |
Titans try an onside kick to begin the year. Lol.
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Raiders score two minutes and ten seconds into the game. Hilarious.
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Texans win the toss and defer.
-------------------------------------- Kickoff is a touchback. Jags ball at their 25. -------------------------------------- False start Jags, -5. 1st and 15 coming up. Fournette for 4. 2nd and 11 coming up. Fournette for about 8. 3rd and 3 coming up. Pass to Robinson goes to midfield, 1st down. Robinson hurt on the play.... Pass to Hurns good for 20. Ball at the Texan 30. Flare pass to Fournette gets 6. 2nd and 4 coming up. Pass to Lewis too high, inc. 3rd and 4 coming up. Pass to Lewis off the mark, inc. Jags to go for the FG. Myers 42-yarder is good. Jags 3, Texans 0 12:08 left in the 1st qtr. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
--------------------------------------- L Miller for 1. Savage sacked for a loss of 7. Deep pass to Hop goes inc. Hop shoulda had it.... Texans to punt. Jags fair catch the punt at their 37. Jag's ball. 10:34 left in the 1st qtr. |
Fournette for 2.
Fournette for 2 more. 3rd and 6 coming up. Flare pass to Ivory off the mark, inc. Jags to punt. Punt goes into the endzone. Texan's ball at their 20. 9:17 left in the 1st qtr. |
1st series on offense:
Tom Savage looked like a deer in the headlights Oline looked like Hot Garbage (3 TE: 1 yd gain)... Good news: you can only go up from here... |
Irvin for 6.
Short pass to Irvin gets 2. 3rd and 2 coming up. Short pass over the middle to L Miller gets the 1st down at the Texan 34. L Miller for almost 6. L Miller sweeps left for no gain, run out of bounds. 3rd and 5 coming up. Pass to Anderson gets the 1st down near midfield. L Miller for no gain or a small loss. 2nd and 11 coming up. Pass to Hop over the middle broken up, inc., nearly INT'ed. Brings up 3rd down and 11. Pass to Hop coming across the middle is dropped. Texans to punt. Jags fair catch the punt at their 15 yard line. Jag's ball. 5:03 left in the 1st qtr. |
2nd series:
Tom looked a little better Oline looked worse The other receivers look invisible |
Pass to Fournette gets about 13.
Fournette off tackle for 10. Fournette for 6. Pass to O'Shaugnessy good for the 1st down. Ball a the Texan 37. Ivory goes right side for 17. Fournette gets 5 but a flag is down.... holding Jags, -10. Places the ball at the Texan 30. 1st and 20. Ivory gets loose for 12. 2nd and 8 coming up. Cushing gets called for PI on a pass way out of bounds. Ball spotted at the Texan 9. Fournette for a loss of 1. 2nd and goal from the 10. Fournette for 4. 3rd and goal coming up. End of the 1st qtr. ---------------------------------------------- On 3rd and goal at the 6, Bortles pass into the end zone is broken up, inc. Jags to go for the FG. Myers 25-yarder is good. Jags 6, Texans 0 14:49 left in the 1st qtr. |
Defense has looked terrible but at least they are not giving up TDs...
Offense looks horrible... |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
--------------------------------------- Pass over the middle to Hop is inc but flag on the Jags for holding, 5 yards and an auto 1st down. Irvin caught in the backfield for loss of 2. Pass to Ellington is dropped. 3rd and 12 coming up. Savage can't find a receiver and gets tripped for a sack. Texans to punt. Punt ends up at the Jag 25. Jag's ball. 13:16 left in the half. |
Fournette for 3 but flag is down. Defense off sides, 5 yards. Makes it 1st and 5.
Tackle by Merci in the backfield, loss of 1. 2nd and 6 coming up. Fournette for about 3. 3rd and 2 coming up. Bortles deep pass goes inc. Jags to punt. Irvin brings the punt back to the Texan 32. Texan's ball. 11:24 left in the half. |
Foreman for 3.
Pass to Griffin broken up, inc. 3rd and 5 coming up. Texans use a timeout. Savage holds the ball too long and gets sacked. Texans to punt. Punt is fair caught at the Jag 18. Jag's ball. 10:12 left in the half. |
Fournette for 3.
Fournette for no gain. 3rd and 7 coming up. Bortles pass sails inc. Jags to punt. Nice return by Irvin brings the punt back to the Texan 38. Texan's ball. 8:37 left in the half. |
Pass to Fido goes for 15.
L Miller for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up. Savage is stripped and the Jags recover. Jag's ball at their 47. |
Unless what we are seeing is totally non representative of what will come, this team is going to win three or four games and will watch the Browns pick third and then thirty fifth or whatever because the unfireable lapdog Rick Smith has fked this roster up into depths of suck previously unimaginable.
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The defensive palaycalling needs to be given back...
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Screen to Fournette goes for 6.
Fournette runs for 4 and the 1st down. Pass to Benn gets 12 and flag on Reader for roughing the passer adds 15 more. Ball is at the Texan 16. Ivory for 2. Jags use a timeout. Penalty on Reader makes it 1st and goal at the 5. ????? Fournette for 3. 2nd and goal from the 2 coming up. Jags use another timeout. Fournette for 1. 3rd and goal from the 1 coming up. Bohanon is stopped short of the TD.....Marrone is challenging that he made it in on the 2nd effort.... Brings up 4th and goal. Jags going for it. Fournette punches it in. Extra point is wide right, no good. Jags 12, Texans 0 2:02 left in the half. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
----------------------------------------------- Pass to Hop gets 7. 2 minute warning. ----------------------------------------------- On 2nd and 3, pass to Fido goes to the Texan 47. Savage pressured, throws forward and spikes the ball, the refs rule fumble and the Jags take it in for the score.... Play under review..... should be over turned.... Ruling = inc. pass, still Texan's ball. 2nd and 10 coming up. 1:16 left in the half. PI on Bouye, auto 1st down at the Jag 44. Ditto, PI on Bouye. Places the ball at the Jag 31. Savage sacked. Loss of 6. 1:00 left in the half. Savage stripped, Fowler picks it up and takes it to the house. Jags 19, Texans 0 49 seconds left in the half. |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
-------------------------------------------- L Miller for 7. Short pass to Fido is good for about 5 and the 1st down. Time runs out. Halftime. Jags 19, Texans 0 |
2nd half kickoff is a touchback.
-------------------------------------------- Watson in at QB. L Miller for 7. L Miller for no gain. Pass to Hop goes for 8 and the 1st down. L Miller for 2. Pass to Hop goes for about 8 and the 1st down. Ball at midfield. L Miller for 7. Pass to Fido goes to the Jag 31. Watson pressured, scrambles for 9. Irvin for 4 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jag 20. Watson pressured, throws off the mark to Ellington, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. Pass to Hop off the mark, inc but flag is down.....PI on HOP, pushing off, -10. On 2nd and 20, pass to Anderson goes inc. 3rd and 20 coming up. Watson pressured, throws quickly, inc. Flag on the Jags for roughing the passer. 15 yards and an auto 1st down. Ball at the Jag 15. Pass to Hop at the sideline goes inc. Pass to Hop at the 8 yard line. Brings up 3rd and 3. Watson throws an INT but flag is down. Illegal hands to the face on the Jags. Still Texan's ball at the Jag 4, 1st down. Ellington shaken up on the play. Watson hits Hop in the end zone for the TD. Jags 19, Texans 7 9:09 left in the 3rd qtr. Putting in Watson was their only shot to win this game.... still might not be enough.... |
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Jag's ball a their 25.
---------------------------------------- Ivory for 6. Pass to Hurns is broken up by JJo, inc. On 3rd and 3, K Johnson gets called for the PI. Places the ball at the Texan 48. Ivory for 1. Ivory for about 2. 3rd and 8 coming up. Pass to Hurns good for the 1st down at the Texan 33. Fournette for 7. Bortles keeps for nice gain. 1st down at the Texan 11. Pass to Hurns goes to the 2 yard line. Fournette sweeps right for 1 yard. 1st and goal a the 1. Pass to Bohanon goes for the TD. Jags 26, Texans 7 4:14 left in the 3rd qtr. |
A little help, defense?
------------------------------------------------ The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25. ---------------------------------------------- L Miller for 4. Watson's pass to Hop off the mark, inc. On 3rd and 6, Watson scrambles for the 1st down at the Texan 37. L Miller for 2. Pass to Anderson is too low, inc. On 3rd and 8, pass to Hop off the mark but PI on Bouye for pulling off Hop's glove. 1st down. L Miller for 8. Pass to Hop goes inc. 3rd and 2 coming up. L Miller takes it to the Jag 40, 1st down. Pass to Irvin gets 3 yards. 2nd and 7 coming up. L Miller for 3. 3rd and 4 coming up. Watson gets stripped. Jags recover. Jag's ball at their 41. |
Fournette for 4.
End of the 3rd qtr. ----------------------------------- On 2nd and 6, Fournette gets loose for 17. KJo is not having a good game. Ivory for 1. Ivory for no gain. Brings up 3rd and 10. Screen to Ivory gets 11 and the 1st down. Fournette for about 5. Ball at the Texan 21. Bortles hit as he passes. Ball floats, no one there to catch it. Pass to Cole is deflected by JJo, inc. Jags to for the FG. Myers FG is no good. Score remains: Jags 26, Texans 7 11:23 left in the game. |
Texans takeover at their 29.
Pass to Hop gets 9. L Miller for about 3 and the 1st down. Deep pass to Hop too long, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. Watson and Hop not on the same page, inc. Brings up 3rd and 10. Pass to B Miller down the sideline goes inc. Texans to punt. Punt goes out of bounds at the Jag 25. Jag's ball. 9:59 left in the game. |
Fournette for 1.
Fournette for 3. On 3rd and 6, pass to Lee is dropped, inc. Jags will have to punt. Punt goes out of bounds around the Texan 37. Texan's ball. 8:21 left in the game. |
Pass to Irvin gets 5.
Defense off sides, 5 yards and a 1st down. Pass to Hop goes for 12. Watson is sacked back at midfield. Loss of 10. Screen to L Miller loses 2 or 3. Roughing the passer on the Jags places the ball at the Jag 32. Watson pressured, scrambles for no gain but holding on the Texans = -10. 1st and 20 coming up. Quick pass to Irvin gets 6. On 2nd and 14, pass over the middle to L Miller gets 26. Ball at the Jag 10. Watson can't find a receiver and scrambles for 3 but holding on X = -10. 1st and goal from the 20. Pass to Irvin down the side line too long, inc. 2nd and goal from the 20 coming up. Oooooh, Watson is INT'ed but makes a saving tackle to prevent the pick 6. Jag's ball at the Texan 27. 3:31 left in the game. |
Fournette for 2.
Ivory for 1. Timeout Texans. ----------------------------------- On 3rd and 7, Fournette gets about 4. Jags to go for the FG. Myers 38-yarder is good. Jags 29, Texans 7 3:11 left in the game. |
Irvin brings the ensuing kickoff back to the 25 but holding on the Texans spots the ball at the Texan 11.
-------------------------------------------- L Miller for 8. Watson sacked. Loss of 6. 2 minute warning. -------------------------------------------- On 3rd and 8, pass to Anderson gets 3. On 4th and 5, Watson is sacked again. Jags takeover on downs. -------------------------------------------- Jags kneeling it. Final score: Jags 29, Texans 7 -------------------------------------------- Well, that was a pretty crappy performance.... 28 concussions and the Bengals on Thursday.... |
That was so bad it almost made me think AJ Bouye got a hold of the playbook and sold us out...
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Jez that was ugly.
As low as my expectations were for our offensive line they still fell miles & miles below those ecpectations. Speaking of Olines, who knew that the Jags Oline was that good because we have a pretty solid front 7 and the Jag offensive line handled them. We do have a good front 7, right ? |
Not a lot of positives in that one. Worse, seemed like the team had a lot of quit in them today, too. Players gotta make plays, but that game is the kind of exhibit of what gets head coaches fired.
O'Brien spent the entire camp with Savage entrenched as the starter only to bench him by halftime of game 1. If you believe in the guy throughout camp, you shouldn't bench him after 30 minutes. If you didn't believe in him, then why not do more in July and August to prepare Watson? Had this been the first time O'Brien looked lost picking a QB by halftime of Week 1... but it isn't the first time. Aside from bad head coaching, the Texans are in trouble this week for tight ends. Short week and the availability of C.J. and Griffin doesn't look good. And of course the OL (albeit missing LT Duane Brown) was even worse than expected... and no one expected much. Ellington went down and yet neither QB looked Braxton Miller's direction in spite of being open often. Kevin Johnson looked like he hadn't played in 11 months. Jags OL seemed to punch the DL in the gut all game long. ILBs overmatched. Not good. |
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You may get some short term gain by playing Watson now but I fear that the minuses will outweigh the positives. Anyway, Rick Smith has completely fked up the roster. Duane Brown or no Duane Brown beginning the season with this OL is a criminal offense. All three of their TEs are in the concussion protocol, by the way, so good luck getting a full team together by Thursday. Silver lining - we can all breathe a sigh of relief that they finally got Jay Prosch extended. |
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But we won our broke division a few times so people are convinced Smith is a good GM. |
No second round pick, you best corner plays for the team that just kicked your ass, I mean, what are they doing?
They have three street free agent tackles. Or non drafted guys, or a seventh round guy. I mean, come on. The one guy they went out and spent a low pick on is probably their worst player. Foreman gets ONE carry. This year will be bad, next year will be bad because they have no picks. Maybe they'll sign someone, I don't know. The only good news is that the Colts are terrible. And the only reason that's good news is that the Texans don't have any picks so it doesn't really matter where they end up. |
What happened to the Texans bringing a W to a city that needs some uplifting? Doesn't look like this will be a repeat of the Saints/Katrina season.....
What happened to the Jags being distracted by the hurricane that is hitting their state? The Jags look razor-focused while the Texans were the ones that looked distracted..... OK, so it's a bad start. The total discombobulation was staggering... Teams have had slow starts before and gotten better as the season goes on. However, this looks a lot like a team that's going into a season-long nose dive..... Hoping for the former, praying that it doesn't turn into the latter..... I believe Strong can play in Thursday's game, that will help some... OB should go ahead and make the switch to Watson if he wants to save his job. Watson's athleticism is needed over Savage's virtues..... They both made about the same mistakes but Watson looked like an athlete screwing up, Savage looked like a branch manager screwing up.... |
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